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Re: Repost, for the benefit of those on newsreaders
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Tue, 31 May 2005 13:46:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Thomas Stangl wrote:
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John wrote:
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You know, just about when I get calloused enough to your idiocy, you
blindside me with yet another anti-American view that is beyond reason.
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What is beyond reason is drawing conclusions when you aren’t anywhere near in
command of all of the facts.
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What is beyond reason is blindly believing a government that refuses to
divulge details of the confinements.
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We provide plenty of details. It’s just you’d rather believe detainees lying
from a playbook rather than your government. Again I give the standard “we
aren’t perfect”, but we do a good job; better than any other.
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and deny basic freedoms to many,
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Wrong again.
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Gay Marriage? Go ahead, tell me you support it. If you do, then you’ve been
lying for a long time.
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You are changing the subject. Marriage isn’t a “basic freedom”. Unless you
read the Constitution differently than I.
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because
their morals don’t meet up to Mr. High And Mighty.
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That’s what you’d like to believe, I know. I thought the Left was all about
“nuances”. You seem to like black and white a lot...
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Gay Marriage.
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Relevant.
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I was speaking more in a historical context. Many Arabs envision a
theocratic Muslim world society, and thus have no basis for agreement with
us whatsoever, and perhaps never will. Until Arab countries are run by
their people for their people, I will regard them with suspicion.
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Yet you want to sweep possible voting fraud under the rug. Such fraud that
may prove OUR country is NOT run “by the people for the people”.
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Again with the fraud. It’s interesting-- I remember Dems talking about
Diebold fraud months before the election. Forget it, Tom. It’s a canard. I
am trying to give you some good advice, but I know that you will never accept
the truth because it is simply too painful. Why else cling to the notion
without tangible evidence so tenaciously?
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No evidence is forthcoming because the machines deny such evidence, or the
gubmint won’t release it. How convenient for your hawks.
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No, how convenient for conspiracy theorists. It would never occur to you that
some people may actually be honest and tell the truth. Perhaps because that
isn’t the way of the Left?
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I disagree with your assertment that the situation is a “disaster”, because
it isn’t a “disaster”, and the impetus is on you to show that it is,
because it is your claim.
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1500+ US soldiers
10s of 1000s of Iraqis
hundreds of billions of $
all gone in that quagmire.
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Say the magic word and win a prize!
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And you don’t call it a disaster?
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No, Tom. What I call a disaster is a nuke denotated in either LA or NYC or
both. Your list above looks like chump change by comparison.
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What in the HECK does Iraq have to do with a nuke in the US in any way shape
or form? You’re delusional.
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Really. You don’t think SH would have been in the “nukes club” by now if it
weren’t for the Israelis and their attack at Osiraq? You are the one who is
delusional.
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We will hemhorrage money until we’re bankrupt, if idiots like Bush continue
to make it into office. How we can be so arrogant as to think we can’t be
spent into the ground like the USSR was, is beyond me.
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We can’t afford not to throw everything we have at terrorism at this
juncture in order to thwart the unthinkable in the future.
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Until we spend ourselves into Third World poverty, and lose all our freedoms
in the meantime? No thanks.
I’ll take my idea if liberty over your dark scary one.
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Part of defending liberty is recognizing the threats to it. On that we
disagree.
JOHN
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