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Re: We love our guns!!-- was Re: Dan Rather is a Useful Idiot Extraordinare
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Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:31:39 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:

I plainly, clearly, and straight forwardly said that removing guns from the
criminals as well as the citizens will reduce the gun related violence.
Less guns = less gun related violence.  Truth.  Deal with it.

But I think the point that was made to you in response to that assertion is
that it is a canard-- it will never happen, and so you really could never prove
it anyway.

But people have thought along those lines and tried to ban guns anyway.  Again
it was pointed out that in all cases, disarming the population *increases*
violent crime.  It's a no brainer.  If the bad guy is the only one with a gun,
he will be *emboldened*, not thwarted.  Taking my gun away does not magically
disarm the bad guy.

So unless you are able to enact your premise "No guns = no gun related
violence" (which Larry conceded you, BTW), your statement is false (as borne
out *in reality*).  Truth.  Deal with it.

JOHN



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  Re: We love our guns!!-- was Re: Dan Rather is a Useful Idiot Extraordinare
 
(...) Do criminals make their guns? Do they have gunsmithing shops in the back of their barns where they can make their .22's and ammo? Well, no. So where do the criminals get their guns? Well, I can think off the top of my head a variety of (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  We love our guns!!-- was Re: Dan Rather is a Useful Idiot Extraordinare
 
(...) Yeah, that's the dreamer part of me... but it's completely true. (...) I like how you do away with the rest of the logically constructed arguement, that if you *reduce* the number of guns, you will reduce the number of gun related cases of (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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