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Re: Dan Rather is a Useful Idiot Extraordinare
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> You don't need the gun, you shouldn't want the gun, and if your only reason
> to have the gun is to "protect society", you're not--you're actually,
> statistically, hindering society.
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> I'm just saying...
The violent crime rate doubled* in Canada and tripled* in the UK after the gun
control laws went into effect. Yes they are still lower than in the US but
that is beside the point. I do understand your point now, but unless every gun
on the planet was destroyed, statistically those that break the law will always
have them and be more inclined to use them with no threat of opposition.
-Mike Petrucelli
*aproximately
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| (...) And I agree that there will always be those that want to break the law, or use a weapon in a moment of passion--I admitted that I'm torn when it comes to me, a gun, and Paul Bernardo (my ethics would prevent me from doing harm to him in the (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Can you give an independent citation for that statistic? And some kind of causitive confirmation that the crime rate increased *because* gun control was initiated? Otherwise, the argument must be abandoned as a post hoc interpretation. That (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'll try to make this as simple as possible, without getting into a totally complex discussion-- If people don't have guns, people can't get shot by guns. That's as simple as it gets. Knives, hatchets, pipes, hands, and the rest all have (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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