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Re: Dan Rather is a Useful Idiot Extraordinare
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Fri, 28 Feb 2003 00:15:26 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Snippety Snip...
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
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> > I am not wishy washy by any stretch of the imagination--my stance
> > on guns, for instance--
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> followed by...
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> > I don't believe in capital punishment, but if you left me in a room with
> > Paul Bernardo and I had a gun, only one of us would come out of that
> > room alive.
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> What was your stance on guns again??? I think I missed something. You're
> ready to go vigilante on a serial killer but not support ousting someone (1)
> who killed hundreds of thousands (or, if you go by the anti sanctions
> propaganda) millions?
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> Oh, and I'll be working on digging some stretching exercises up for you and
> your imagination.
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> 1 - I support ousting him, I just fail to see why it's my problem or why we
> should have a war to do it now. Let the Kuwaitis pay for it, or most of
> it... let's us just make up the part that we owe for causing the mess in the
> first place by propping him up in the 80s, as long as the French and all the
> rest do the same
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> ++Lar
Oh I'd love to have a black/white, right/wrong stance as clear and
simplistic as the one you're proposing, Larry. But the world's a complex
place, which needs complex problem solving--there is nothing cut 'n dry in life.
So when I say that I am against guns, I believe that guns have no place in
private homes or people. However, guns have a place in society, as in
militia (read the military, imho). Again, we dwelled on this earlier.
I just returned from dinner, and after thinking about it, I'd be in the room
with Paul, and, knowing me as I do, I would demonstrate a little known thing
called 'mercy' and wouldn't kill him. Showing mercy to him which is
something he didn't show to the girls that he killed.
So sober second thought, there is rationale for not following your first
'off the cuff' thought. It's not relativism, it's understanding who you are
and your place in teh world.
THere has to be a logical, Just, and right reason for us to go to war
against his bad man named Saddam--there is a wonderful thing that we should
have learned in kindergarden--two wrongs don't make a right--how many
civilians will die whilst we try to 'oust' Saddam? And what is our Just
reason for doing so? Is it for all the reasons that we have heard from
those that want to 'get Saddam'? Well, those reasons have been either
disproven or the result of much hype.
So where does that leave us? I think we should find other (read better)
ways of getting this job done, like ways where people aren't written off as
casualties of war.
It's a complex situation and has nothing to do with relativism.
Dave K
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| Snippety Snip... (...) followed by... (...) What was your stance on guns again??? I think I missed something. You're ready to go vigilante on a serial killer but not support ousting someone (1) who killed hundreds of thousands (or, if you go by the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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