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Re: Dan Rather is a Useful Idiot Extraordinare
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Fri, 28 Feb 2003 05:19:51 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> If ther are no guns, either in homes or in the streets (read in the hands of
> criminals) then there can be no gun related violence. No hidden meaning, no
> fallacy at all.
Tell you what. I'll concede that... if you can *completely* eliminate guns
from the surface of the earth, no one will be killed with guns any more, or
at least not until the aliens come.
But I'll ***only*** concede that in return for a concession on your part,
namely, IF you concede that:
1) there's no way to actually do that, so there will still be some guns
and
2) if there still are some guns, but citizens can't have them, outlaws(1)
will have them more than citizens will.
1 - either civilian thugs or military thugs, depending
Bet you won't admit it though, will you? It shreds your argument completely.
That's not hiding behind old paper, that's not fallacy, that's just the way
the world is. You're a self admitted dreamer, out of touch with reality.
But this is a distraction, it's plowed ground, and it's off topic for this
thread. There is another active thread you can hang your fallacy on (and
your ducking the issue that the second amendment isn't about crime, it isn't
about hunting, it's about the final check and balance we chose to have) if
you want, OK? I started it just for you.
Please leave it off this one. This one is about Dan Rather being an idiot.
Since everyone seems to agree, we're done, right?
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| (...) Hit fudge hasn't killed anybody, that I recall-I could be wrong. Ask a father what he wants done to the criminal who had just raped and killed his daughter. Weak willed? I don't think so--I'm just glad that laws are supposedly made by rational (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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