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Re: Dan Rather is a Useful Idiot Extraordinare
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Fri, 28 Feb 2003 02:47:01 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli writes:
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> > You don't need the gun, you shouldn't want the gun, and if your only reason
> > to have the gun is to "protect society", you're not--you're actually,
> > statistically, hindering society.
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> > I'm just saying...
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> The violent crime rate doubled* in Canada and tripled* in the UK after the gun
> control laws went into effect. Yes they are still lower than in the US but
> that is beside the point. I do understand your point now, but unless every gun
> on the planet was destroyed, statistically those that break the law will always
> have them and be more inclined to use them with no threat of opposition.
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> -Mike Petrucelli
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> *aproximately
And I agree that there will always be those that want to break the law, or
use a weapon in a moment of passion--I admitted that I'm torn when it comes
to me, a gun, and Paul Bernardo (my ethics would prevent me from doing harm
to him in the final analysis).
Less access to guns = less gun related violence is what I'm advocating.
It's a cyclical arguement--if the bad guys have guns, then we, the private
citizens should have guns to combat the bad guys--the problem is,
statistically, the more guns we, the private citizens have, the better
chance the bad guys have at getting guns--compounded with that is that age
old problem of family members shooting family members.
What I want is a complete pipe dream, I know, but I never said i wasn't a
dreamer, and as yet, I haven't heard any reason why my 'dream' is not better
for society than what we have today.
Dave K
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| (...) The violent crime rate doubled* in Canada and tripled* in the UK after the gun control laws went into effect. Yes they are still lower than in the US but that is beside the point. I do understand your point now, but unless every gun on the (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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