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Re: Thinking Out Loud...
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Mon, 24 Sep 2001 02:24:28 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford continues to squirm:
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> > I quote *again* from your reply to Horst:
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> > "Thank *all that is worth living for* that the heroes on board that flight
> > *weren't* pacifists."
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> > This *is not* the same as "what was done on flight 93 was *not* an act of
> > pacifism".
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> > One is talking about people, the other is about the act. Maybe the attack was
> > violent, maybe it wasn't. Does it matter? These people made a decision in a
> > moment of stress, and that doesn't give us any information about whether
> > or not
> > they were pacifists. The initial quote implied it was a fact, and it isn't.
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> Unless "a little bit pregnant" == "not pregnant", pacifists don't commit
> violent acts. Sorry.
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> Maybe people who think pacifism is a good idea some of the time do, maybe
> former pacifists do, maybe people who wish they were pacifists do, maybe
> people who are lapsed pacifists do, but these people, at the moment that
> they did the heroic thing that they did, were not pacifists.
Which, assuming viiolence was involved[1], I agree with. You did not, however,
include the extra information in the statement I originally challenged, and
*still* disagree with. You've subsequently provided three alternative staements
(including the above) which I *have* agreed with. I think there was
squirming[2] on both sides, don't you?
ROSCO
[1] Which I also agree is likely, but still not proven.
[2] Your word - I prefer to think of it as tossing around ideas to try and
resolve a difference of opinion.
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford continues to squirm: (...) Unless "a little bit pregnant" == "not pregnant", pacifists don't commit violent acts. Sorry. Maybe people who think pacifism is a good idea some of the time do, maybe former (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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