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Re: Thinking Out Loud...
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Date: 
Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:58:37 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:

snippo

Read some of the links posted here, the interviews with him, the link I gave
here: http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=12938, the NYT article
analysing the fundamentalist message.

I read that article from the New Yorker --  a really valuable perspective
piece I thought. Vollmann does more than describe the Taliban message too,
he gives a good background on how they were brought to power by decades of
misery in Afghanistan.

"freedom is good" snipped

And I think their statement deserves a reply. It is not the duty of the US
to right all the world's evil. But if in going after the perpetrators of
this particular evil we happen to take a fundamentalist dictatorship or two
down, that's OK by me.

But it's not a "conventional" dictatorship. There is no charismatic despot,
no military junta; just a whole lot of fundamentalist imams and a generation
of men whose only education was war and the Koran. I don't believe that
"toppling a dictator" is ever sufficient to change a country's government:
in Afghanistan there isn't even a dictator to topple.

--DaveL



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