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(...) compensation? (...) Oooops, shoulda wrapped that in <RHETORICAL> tags. I doubt airline security even crossed their minds when deciding what to do with Saddam's frozen funds, just figured maybe it'd be something to think about with any of (...) (23 years ago, 2-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) must (...) And even if they do, it's just a case of the middle ground coinciding with the law. ROSCO (23 years ago, 2-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. (...) Yes. (...) But why should the rest of society have to live with the possibility that the offender's behavior may not be controlled? Or the possibility that the offender may decide not to show up for his Depo Provera treatment (or (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The subject line made me think, at first, that we were talking about Paradisa mecha. ;) (...) Yes, but as long as she's under her guardians' (they're not her parents?) roof, they have the ability to monitor and modify her behaviour. Her other (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This doesn't really apply to the root question anymore, but... (...) I've wondered about that as well. On one hand, if a medically demonstrable risk continues to exist that an individual will commit a crime again, is it not in the public's interest (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just noticed this thread while trying to find info on clones, but anyway. I am an attorney in Washington State. It sounds like you would be safe from any criminal prosecutions if you had sexual relations (although she would not necessarily (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We are both over age 16. She is 18, turned that today did she. :) (...) She is 18, as I said before, and if i understand what you and James are saying this makes her an adult and willing to do as she pleases. And my parents love her, I just (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) She is 18, I am 16... So she is probably old enough to decide that stuff. Rick (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was thinking of posting about being leery of age of consent issues myself, but you have hit it on the head, James... The age of consent in Michigan is 16. Unless you're both 16 or older you are in a world of trouble if they want to *make* (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My advice to you would be to "tread lightly." If you have a serious relationship that could last long-term, then with some patience and discretion you should be able to last until you are both 18 and she is free to chose whom to see. Trying to (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Dear Aby...with a difference (was: Girlfriends Guardians!!!)
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(...) They have met me once or twice when I picked her up for youth group before we got real serious, and any other information was supplied by their son, who despises me. Goes out of his way to insult me in hall.. :-\. I have been advised to write (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Dear Aby...with a difference (was: Girlfriends Guardians!!!)
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(...) Do they know you? What don't they like? Maybe they're just not ready for their sweet little honey-kins to be growing up. Have you asked them what their problem is (I'd recommend phrasing it a bit differently)? (...) Hey, I drove before it was (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ...but Japan didn't agree with that assessment.
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(...) At the same time that I won't accept morality with which I do not agree, I must live in a system in which a common morality has been developed. I don't see anything wrong with lots of things that are against the law, so I base my activities on (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: 'work of neo-Nazis' (Re: Anthrax Info)
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(...) Yes. Absolutely. Without reservation. Not only OK, but actually good. It is much easier to track their activities when they advertise. (...) There is no good reason to prevent people from hearing ideas and allowing them to compete for (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hello. As some of you may or may not know, I am in a relationship where my girlfriend's guardians do not like me much, they have false accusations against me, and even filed a police report against me because they do not like me, the police report (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: 'work of neo-Nazis' (Re: Anthrax Info)
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(...) That's easy - don't allow the Internet! It's something that was created in the United States anyway - complaining about how we use our own creation doesn't seem to carry great moral weight. (...) Yes, but at least here, there is a general (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I doubt it. This particular stonewalling has been going on for longer than the current situation. I really have no idea where the State Department spends its money, but if I were to take a stab at it, I would say they took the windfall of (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yup, much like that indeed. (...) There is speculation, in that I didn't actually go check and see if the frozen funds are in the State Department sandbox. So I might be ascribing selfish motives where mere beaurocratic inertia is sufficient. (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: 'work of neo-Nazis' (Re: Anthrax Info)
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(...) This is a dangerous line to try to draw. We think it safer for freedom to allow people to say what they will and let the audience decide, than to suppress kinds of speech. (pulling up the rock often has a far worse effect on the grubs that (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ...but Japan didn't agree with that assessment.
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(...) That would be fun establishing? (...) So we should "go with the flow", accept morals which we as individuals do not agree with? I'm not saying either moral relativism or objectivism is "wrong" or "right", I just think most of us operate in the (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta loveOracle...)
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(...) You already guessed that I prefer a different solution, didn't you? I think it's time to agree that we disagree. The discussion has not brought up any new arguments for a while ... (...) I am for sure not going to tell you what you should do (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: 'work of neo-Nazis' (Re: Anthrax Info)
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(...) So you think it is OK that they use the internet to spread their propaganda even to countries which have good reasons to disallow this type of propaganda? Or do you think there could be no good reasons to disallow tis type of proaganda? It (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: 6 degrees of separation..
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(...) Maybe airline security? ROSCO (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean like how Police Departments LOVE civil forfeiture because it gives them Corvettes and powerboats and big piles of cash to play with without having to budget for them (1)? Like that? Nothing speculative about it. 1 - or justify how (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Rampant cynical speculation would prompt me to guess that the frozen assets in question are currently under the jurisdiction of the State Department, and they've already spent the money on something else. But that's just rampant cynical (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Okinawa, a foretaste of invading the main islands..
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(...) That may be true, certainly a lot of people hold that opinion. Hanson is just another of those people. Doesn't prove the assertion, though. ROSCO (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is that a global (America) "we're"? And who exactly does "they" refer to? It's a bit naive to try & judge "relative goodness" of a nation (or a people) by such a list (even if you could compile such a list). IMO. ROSCO (who thinks Americans (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) General principles, agreeable to all people? Something like the UDHR? The bulk of world opinion? (...) See the subject line for relativism, at least in the perceptual sense. LFB (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree. This really does illustrate the importance of IP. However, that argument should be held separate from that surrounding those profiteering based on the current situation... in my view. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is not just the dictators who respect Ramadan - do not forget that. If we bomb through Ramadan we will be dammed as being insensitive. If we choose to stop for Ramadan, we will be dammed for making a cynical token move. Nevertheless, I (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: 6 degrees of separation..
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(...) Not sure what you're asking, exactly. But THAT won't stop me from pontificating nevertheless. I'm not sure an unambiguous statement can be made based solely on this one personal account (and I personally vouch for Paul's veracity... I have (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Foreign patents are no less important than US patents in my view and that of Mr. Goldberg (URL)To me it seems the US are trying to save some money in this case, whereas (...) Mr. Goldberg makes the argument that this attempt to steal Bayer's (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | .. but japan was 'beat' by the time the main island was reached.
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message (...) Are you saying moral objectivism is the correct path? If so, on what should it be based? The bible? The Koran? Book of Mormon? I would have thought you'd have said moral relativism (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Read this: ==+== "If any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocents," George Bush announced on the day he began bombing Afghanistan, "they have become outlaws and murderers themselves. And they will take that lonely path at their (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it is ~OK~. (...) Again OK, I prefer your Crawford. Scott A No, I don't know what they all look like. I had to look here: (URL) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: 'work of neo-Nazis' (Re: Anthrax Info)
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(...) Not that long ago in the USA: neo-Nazis = ~OK~ Communists = Not Ok. Hmm. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GM1qKx.Do9@lugnet.com... (...) Wow. Makes you think more than twice when someone comes up to you and tries to convince you that 'we're the real terrorists.' Bull. Anyways, that's not (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Is Larry a Creationist? 8^) Re: Future of Humanity (was: lotsa stuff)
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(...) Just to clarify. Microevolution is a change in allele frequences of pre-existing variants within a population, whereas mutation is the ultimate source of that variation. Onto Dave's point about the macroevolution being a strawman. I'm pretty (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One wonders why the State Department seems so dead against such compensation? Anyone know? ROSCO (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Future of Humanity (was: lotsa stuff)
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(...) I'll have to partially disagree. Humankind has done a lot to *lessen" selection pressure on ourselves but we, to my knowledge, have not found a way to eliminate an environmental factor (in the broad sense). However, humans will continue to (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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