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Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
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lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev
Date: 
Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:55:22 GMT
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Dave Schuler <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message
news:FLtn2z.KB3@lugnet.com...
> > Nothing would stink
> > more, IMASO[1], than seeing LEGO models sprinkled with Mega-Bloks elements
> > and that sort of thing.  Wait -- OK, one thing would stink more than that,
> > IMSAO:  parts libraries containing both LEGO and off-brands.
> > 
> > If the parts libraries and element selection for off-brands (Mega Bloks) • or
> > compatible (Rokenbok) or totally other (Tinker Toys, K'NEX) systems could • be
> > kept totally separate from LEGO libraries, and if LEdit or MLCad worked • with
> > other scales and plastics, then, well, hey, All the more power to them!
> 
>   I've been trying to keep a low profile on this thread after having • stirred
> the pot at the beginning, but now that I think of it, I have a few pseudo-
> philosophical questions.
>   There've been myriad discussions of the merits and shortcomings of • clones,
> as well as of juniorized "official" pieces, and the general sentiment seems • to
> be that the worst official piece is better than the best clone, for reasons
> ranging from color, to plastic quality, to basic design.  All of these are
> fine, of course, and reflect personal preferences that I surely won't try • to
> refute.
>   Throughout my ravings about my precious clone-DATs I've tried to make • clear
> my wish that they NOT be included in the official roster; is this what you
> mean, Todd, by your unwillingness to group clones in the LEGO libraries? • If
> so, then I wholeheartedly agree.  The Official Updates should be exactly • that:
> official updates.  However, I confess that I don't see the harm in using • clone-
> DATs in rendering models.
>   More to the point, even though clone-DATs obviously shouldn't be part of • the
> official LDraw piece libraries, if some people want to use them, why • shouldn't
> they be allowed to?  If someone rendered a particularly cool model but
> included clone-DATs, would that model be cast out for lack of purity?  Some • of
> the best LDraw/POV models incorporate elements and scenery that are • distinctly
> non-Lego, such as fog, stars, and water.  Even L3P allows a selection of
> "floors" which are not themselves of Lego.  Should all these very useful • and,
> frankly, wonderful additions to virtual modelling be ousted?

Your mention of L3P brings up a potential problem with clone brick dats.  If
rendered using L3P & POV at the highest "quality" setting, all the studs will
have "LEGO" written on them.  IMHO, this would be very uncool.

A possible solution would be to create your own "CSTUD.DAT" which would
prevent L3P from adding the "LEGO" to the studs of clone bricks.

Asside from that, I guess I would treat clone bricks much like other
unofficial part files:  acknowledge their existence with links, but don't
host them directly.  Except that I think clone bricks should not be posted to
cad.dat.parts.  An off-topic.clonebrands.dat group would be much better.

-John Van



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  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) It's funny you should mention that; I had the same thought once I'd downloaded the latest version of L3P and started messing around with the quality settings. If I were to use a CSTUD.DAT file, what would have to be different about it for L3P (...) (27 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)

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  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) I've been trying to keep a low profile on this thread after having stirred the pot at the beginning, but now that I think of it, I have a few pseudo- philosophical questions. There've been myriad discussions of the merits and shortcomings of (...) (27 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)

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