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It's been far too long since we last played Brikwars. Dan's incessant drooling
over the prospect of another game had inspired my to stand up, mop off, and try
to get the ball rolling. I mean, it's not as if we have anything else on our
plates at the moment, is it?
So I'm soliciting ideas on what the next game should be, and be like. I'm
throwing out an idea here, but I'd welcome support, refutation, or alternative
ideas:
Tek Level: TL 5 or 6
Budget: 150 or 200 CP
Environs: Urban/City
I've been on a big BubbleGum Crisis (http://www.megatokyobgc.net/) kick lately,
so I'm envisioning different groups running around with different agendas. For
example:
Authorities: Trying to reign in mayhem and take down disturbers-of-the-peace
Vigilantes: Trying not to take down authorities or civilians, but trying to
take down subversive elements
Subversive Elements: Trying to accomplish their own evil ends, couldn't care
less about authorities or collateral damage. Would also love the chance to take
down vigilantes
And, of course, power armor, robots, and vehicles would be encouraged! The
caveat is that with such a small budget allowance per player, these represent
significant investments. On the other hand, we can have fast and furious turns
if everybody only has a couple of troops, plus we can endow each trooper with
personalities that makes their unavoidable demise all that much more spectacular
and painful.
Alternatively, Dave had mentioned a Matrix-type game, where stupendous feats and
spider gymnastix become the order of the day ... I know this type of game has
been played before, with positive reviews (there was discussion of it over at
the Brikwars yahoo group).
I know there area a couple of small things coming up (Road Show, Brickfest,
etc), but it's never too early to begin building, and it's certainly never too
early to begin planning. So what might other people think?
-s
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Quoting Shaun Sullivan <shaun_sullivan@irco.com>:
> I know there area a couple of small things coming up (Road Show, Brickfest,
> etc), but it's never too early to begin building, and it's certainly never
> too
> early to begin planning. So what might other people think?
I'm not 100% sure I'm ready to send my OWN troops into battle, but I'm definetly
interested. I do feel more confident sending someone elses troops though :)
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Hey, hey! I *like* this idea.
I'm slightly familar with Bubblegum Crisis - I think I might even have a DVD
someplace (Must...Not...Watch...Anime...at Work). I have visions of hoverbike
gang-banger racing around downtown streets, blowing the stuffings outta Enforcer
vans and Café Internet patrons...
I could be on-board for some cyberpunk streetfighting. So I'd vote for that over
Matrix-fighting. I'd rather mostly straight-up fighting verses tons of special
power stuff. Plus the faster turns would mean lots of wam-bam action.
Would these personalities be considered Heroes? Are there to be any Heroes? Or
is it nothing but Troopers?
So when are we talking about possibly having a game? July? August? (I don't have
any idea when Brickfest is.) The more advance notice, the more likely I am to
actually make it (although I'm spoken for July 25-27).
I'm really diggin' it.
-Evil Wayne
In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> It's been far too long since we last played Brikwars. Dan's incessant drooling
> over the prospect of another game had inspired my to stand up, mop off, and try
> to get the ball rolling. I mean, it's not as if we have anything else on our
> plates at the moment, is it?
>
> So I'm soliciting ideas on what the next game should be, and be like. I'm
> throwing out an idea here, but I'd welcome support, refutation, or alternative
> ideas:
>
> Tek Level: TL 5 or 6
> Budget: 150 or 200 CP
> Environs: Urban/City
>
> I've been on a big BubbleGum Crisis (http://www.megatokyobgc.net/) kick lately,
> so I'm envisioning different groups running around with different agendas. For
> example:
>
> Authorities: Trying to reign in mayhem and take down disturbers-of-the-peace
>
> Vigilantes: Trying not to take down authorities or civilians, but trying to
> take down subversive elements
>
> Subversive Elements: Trying to accomplish their own evil ends, couldn't care
> less about authorities or collateral damage. Would also love the chance to take
> down vigilantes
>
> And, of course, power armor, robots, and vehicles would be encouraged! The
> caveat is that with such a small budget allowance per player, these represent
> significant investments. On the other hand, we can have fast and furious turns
> if everybody only has a couple of troops, plus we can endow each trooper with
> personalities that makes their unavoidable demise all that much more spectacular
> and painful.
>
> Alternatively, Dave had mentioned a Matrix-type game, where stupendous feats and
> spider gymnastix become the order of the day ... I know this type of game has
> been played before, with positive reviews (there was discussion of it over at
> the Brikwars yahoo group).
>
> I know there area a couple of small things coming up (Road Show, Brickfest,
> etc), but it's never too early to begin building, and it's certainly never too
> early to begin planning. So what might other people think?
>
> -s
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this i could be into...
hmm... subversive
-tk
"Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
news:HHv3Ep.2J3@lugnet.com...
> It's been far too long since we last played Brikwars. Dan's incessant • drooling
> over the prospect of another game had inspired my to stand up, mop off, • and try
> to get the ball rolling. I mean, it's not as if we have anything else on • our
> plates at the moment, is it?
>
> So I'm soliciting ideas on what the next game should be, and be like. I'm
> throwing out an idea here, but I'd welcome support, refutation, or • alternative
> ideas:
>
> Tek Level: TL 5 or 6
> Budget: 150 or 200 CP
> Environs: Urban/City
>
> I've been on a big BubbleGum Crisis (http://www.megatokyobgc.net/) kick • lately,
> so I'm envisioning different groups running around with different agendas. • For
> example:
>
> Authorities: Trying to reign in mayhem and take down • disturbers-of-the-peace
>
> Vigilantes: Trying not to take down authorities or civilians, but trying • to
> take down subversive elements
>
> Subversive Elements: Trying to accomplish their own evil ends, couldn't • care
> less about authorities or collateral damage. Would also love the chance • to take
> down vigilantes
>
> And, of course, power armor, robots, and vehicles would be encouraged! • The
> caveat is that with such a small budget allowance per player, these • represent
> significant investments. On the other hand, we can have fast and furious • turns
> if everybody only has a couple of troops, plus we can endow each trooper • with
> personalities that makes their unavoidable demise all that much more • spectacular
> and painful.
>
> Alternatively, Dave had mentioned a Matrix-type game, where stupendous • feats and
> spider gymnastix become the order of the day ... I know this type of game • has
> been played before, with positive reviews (there was discussion of it over • at
> the Brikwars yahoo group).
>
> I know there area a couple of small things coming up (Road Show, • Brickfest,
> etc), but it's never too early to begin building, and it's certainly never • too
> early to begin planning. So what might other people think?
>
> -s
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Push, Here's my attempt at keeping the ball moving.
I have a part of a larger game that was created as a Tek 2, but I think we could
do it at any tek level. It is the classic Minotaur's Labyrinth.
Everyone starts at the beginning of the maze with one trooper, who is lightly
armed. As they move through the maze they can pick up items to help them over
come the many challenges in the maze. At the end of the maze is the exit, but
it is blocked by a large creature. To defeat this creature one of the players
must find and dawn the special armor and weapons. Only then will he have the
strength to defeat the beast.
Couple of stats that I was thinking for this game:
-Hit points for the creature and troops
-16x16 Modular maze sections (Maybe larger if we use Mechs)
-Possibly a 3D maze
-Each Module will be covered to hide the path of the maze.
-Several Modules will have challenges or booby traps.
How does this concept sound?
I'm very good at playing both sides so I'm more than willing to volunteer to
design the maze and assign sections to players, but I'm not sure if I could come
up with good booby traps or challenges.
> Tek Level: TL 5 or 6
> Budget: 150 or 200 CP
> Environs: Urban/City
I could also go for this. We can use a similar layout to the super heroes game.
Depending on how many participants there are I might reduce the cp even lower
per person (one or two big troopers per person).
> Authorities: Trying to reign in mayhem and take down disturbers-of-the-peace
>
> Vigilantes: Trying not to take down authorities or civilians, but trying to
> take down subversive elements
>
> Subversive Elements: Trying to accomplish their own evil ends, couldn't care
> less about authorities or collateral damage. Would also love the chance to
> take down vigilantes
>
> And, of course, power armor, robots, and vehicles would be encouraged! The
> caveat is that with such a small budget allowance per player, these represent
> significant investments. On the other hand, we can have fast and furious
> turns. if everybody only has a couple of troops, plus we can endow each
> trooper with personalities that makes their unavoidable demise all that much
> more spectacular and painful.
I'm not a really big Mecha person. The last one I built blew up on the first
turn, but I tend to like balls of fire for some reason.
Jonathan
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Sooo... is there any more chit-chat progress on this that's not making it to the
boards? Or maybe Jonathan's idea?
Is there some kind of general TL5/6 mayhem in the near future?
Bueller...?
-Evil Wayne
In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> It's been far too long since we last played Brikwars. Dan's incessant drooling
> over the prospect of another game had inspired my to stand up, mop off, and try
> to get the ball rolling. I mean, it's not as if we have anything else on our
> plates at the moment, is it?
>
> So I'm soliciting ideas on what the next game should be, and be like. I'm
> throwing out an idea here, but I'd welcome support, refutation, or alternative
> ideas:
>
> Tek Level: TL 5 or 6
> Budget: 150 or 200 CP
> Environs: Urban/City
>
> I've been on a big BubbleGum Crisis (http://www.megatokyobgc.net/) kick lately,
> so I'm envisioning different groups running around with different agendas. For
> example:
>
> Authorities: Trying to reign in mayhem and take down disturbers-of-the-peace
>
> Vigilantes: Trying not to take down authorities or civilians, but trying to
> take down subversive elements
>
> Subversive Elements: Trying to accomplish their own evil ends, couldn't care
> less about authorities or collateral damage. Would also love the chance to take
> down vigilantes
>
> And, of course, power armor, robots, and vehicles would be encouraged! The
> caveat is that with such a small budget allowance per player, these represent
> significant investments. On the other hand, we can have fast and furious turns
> if everybody only has a couple of troops, plus we can endow each trooper with
> personalities that makes their unavoidable demise all that much more spectacular
> and painful.
>
> Alternatively, Dave had mentioned a Matrix-type game, where stupendous feats and
> spider gymnastix become the order of the day ... I know this type of game has
> been played before, with positive reviews (there was discussion of it over at
> the Brikwars yahoo group).
>
> I know there area a couple of small things coming up (Road Show, Brickfest,
> etc), but it's never too early to begin building, and it's certainly never too
> early to begin planning. So what might other people think?
>
> -s
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Wayne McCaul wrote:
> Sooo... is there any more chit-chat progress on this that's not making it to
> the boards? Or maybe Jonathan's idea?
>
> Is there some kind of general TL5/6 mayhem in the near future?
I do hope so ... there hasn't been much discussion the past couple weeks on it,
since people were getting ready to run off to Brickfest, travelling to and from
Brickfest, attending Brickfest, or recuperating from Brickfest. But now that
that seems to be winding down ...
Actually, I've ben working on some more buildings and scenery for the upcoming
game. I've been tentatively trying to keep September open, but I guess it's
time to try and figure out a date that works. I believe that I am available all
four weekends:
6th
13th
20th
27th
but I'm checking on that to make sure.
So far, the consensus has been towards TL 5 or 6, ala BubbleGum Crisis. With
small CP caps. Preliminarily, shall we say there's a 150 CP cap per person? We
can adjust this as people start to build. Or would people prefer something
slightly larger or smaller?
So ... other than Wayne and I, who wants to play? And what weekend looks good
for people?
Power Armor, troops, small vehicles! Buildings with detailed and accessible
interiors! The small budgets won't allow for anything too blastariffic, which
is better for street fighting anyway.
In Summary:
DATE: September TBD, 2003
TL: 6
Budget per person: 150 CP
Teams: TBD
Environs: Urban
Anything else?
-s
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> > It's been far too long since we last played Brikwars. Dan's incessant
> > drooling over the prospect of another game had inspired my to stand up, mop
> > off, and try to get the ball rolling. I mean, it's not as if we have
> > anything else on our plates at the moment, is it?
> >
> > So I'm soliciting ideas on what the next game should be, and be like. I'm
> > throwing out an idea here, but I'd welcome support, refutation, or
> > alternative ideas:
> >
> > Tek Level: TL 5 or 6
> > Budget: 150 or 200 CP
> > Environs: Urban/City
> >
> > I've been on a big BubbleGum Crisis (http://www.megatokyobgc.net/) kick
> > lately, so I'm envisioning different groups running around with different
> > agendas. For example:
> >
> > Authorities: Trying to reign in mayhem and take down disturbers-of-the-peace
> >
> > Vigilantes: Trying not to take down authorities or civilians, but trying to
> > take down subversive elements
> >
> > Subversive Elements: Trying to accomplish their own evil ends, couldn't care
> > less about authorities or collateral damage. Would also love the chance to
> > take down vigilantes
> >
> > And, of course, power armor, robots, and vehicles would be encouraged! The
> > caveat is that with such a small budget allowance per player, these represent
> > significant investments. On the other hand, we can have fast and furious
> > turns if everybody only has a couple of troops, plus we can endow each
> > trooper with personalities that makes their unavoidable demise all that much
> > more spectacular and painful.
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
>
> Power Armor, troops, small vehicles! Buildings with detailed and accessible
> interiors! The small budgets won't allow for anything too blastariffic, which
> is better for street fighting anyway.
>
> In Summary:
>
> DATE: September TBD, 2003
> TL: 6
> Budget per person: 150 CP
> Teams: TBD
> Environs: Urban
>
> Anything else?
>
> -s
My schedule is clear, so far. Count me in!... BBC is a classic.
After I read Shawn's first post I started working on this. I've already built
the following:
a Bike inspired by the Priss' Highway Star. (ready)
a prototype hardsuit, (needs some work).
a prototype for a MotorSlave/MotorDroid/BattleSuit. (needs some work)
I started an ADP cruiser but didn't like the result, so I'm back at the drawing
board with it, same with a Boomer.
I'll bring some of this stuff to the meeting on Monday,
J.-
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On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 04:59:10PM +0000, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> Actually, I've ben working on some more buildings and scenery for the
> upcoming game. I've been tentatively trying to keep September open,
> but I guess it's time to try and figure out a date that works. I
> believe that I am available all four weekends:
>
> 6th
> 13th
> 20th
> 27th
>
> but I'm checking on that to make sure.
I believe we're out of town on the 27th, but not sure about the other
three weekends - I'm sure Jenn knows though :)
> So ... other than Wayne and I, who wants to play? And what weekend
> looks good for people?
I'd like to play, but I somehow doubt I'll actually build an army :/
--
Dan Boger
dan@peeron.com
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Best dates for me are the 13th and 27th.
Any idea where the game might be held?
I have nothing built yet. Any suggestions? So much of my stuff is still locked
away. :(
-Evil Wayne
In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Wayne McCaul wrote:
> > Sooo... is there any more chit-chat progress on this that's not making it to
> > the boards? Or maybe Jonathan's idea?
> >
> > Is there some kind of general TL5/6 mayhem in the near future?
>
> I do hope so ... there hasn't been much discussion the past couple weeks on it,
> since people were getting ready to run off to Brickfest, travelling to and from
> Brickfest, attending Brickfest, or recuperating from Brickfest. But now that
> that seems to be winding down ...
>
> Actually, I've ben working on some more buildings and scenery for the upcoming
> game. I've been tentatively trying to keep September open, but I guess it's
> time to try and figure out a date that works. I believe that I am available all
> four weekends:
>
> 6th
> 13th
> 20th
> 27th
>
> but I'm checking on that to make sure.
>
> So far, the consensus has been towards TL 5 or 6, ala BubbleGum Crisis. With
> small CP caps. Preliminarily, shall we say there's a 150 CP cap per person? We
> can adjust this as people start to build. Or would people prefer something
> slightly larger or smaller?
>
> So ... other than Wayne and I, who wants to play? And what weekend looks good
> for people?
>
> Power Armor, troops, small vehicles! Buildings with detailed and accessible
> interiors! The small budgets won't allow for anything too blastariffic, which
> is better for street fighting anyway.
>
> In Summary:
>
> DATE: September TBD, 2003
> TL: 6
> Budget per person: 150 CP
> Teams: TBD
> Environs: Urban
>
> Anything else?
>
> -s
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Dan Boger wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 04:59:10PM +0000, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> > Actually, I've ben working on some more buildings and scenery for the
> > upcoming game. I've been tentatively trying to keep September open,
> > but I guess it's time to try and figure out a date that works. I
> > believe that I am available all four weekends:
> >
> > 6th
> > 13th
> > 20th
> > 27th
> >
> > but I'm checking on that to make sure.
>
> I believe we're out of town on the 27th, but not sure about the other
> three weekends - I'm sure Jenn knows though :)
>
> > So ... other than Wayne and I, who wants to play? And what weekend
> > looks good for people?
>
> I'd like to play, but I somehow doubt I'll actually build an army :/
Not a worry! As always, I'm sure that we'll have many extra troops to go
around.
Actually, this weekend I finished up one unit that would take up my entire
budget - which means that the other 4 or 5 units I've built are now suddenly
worrying that they might not get to fight. And I definitely don't want to
disappoint them ...
-s
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(In Monster Truck announcer voiceover)
WATCH ... as Jorge’s speeding TurboCycle becomes a slagged heap of burning
plastic!!!
HEAR ... Wayne’s moans of agony as his stalwart troops are turned into a
steaming heap of minifig detritus!!!
SMELL ... the fear and garlic pickle spears on Dan’s breath!!!
FEEL ... the tension as Joe calmly pulls out his *&%#&*) female Chakram
chucker and tries to explain that she’s been reborn as a Boomer!!!
EXPERIENCE ... Bubblebrick Crisis!!!
So far, it looks as though September 13th works for people. As for location,
I’m more than willing to host, if people don’t mind making a trek North. I can
also make sure that we have some adequate barbeque supplies, crock pot eatables,
and other foodstuffs so we don’t have to worry about the 40 minute Pizza run.
We’d probably also need a couple of NELUG tables for the setup, as I have space
but no sprawling tabletops.
If Brikwarring Amongst The Bears™ seems a little too far out of the way for
people, we can also pick a more centralized location, and I won’t be offended.
So far, we have interest from Wayne, Jorge, Dan, Jenn, and that dorky kid with
the shaved head. Anybody else? At the very least, it is imperative that Joe
Comeau divulge his secret uber-random team-formation algorithm, since my schemes
all took on the complexity of quantum machinery. And Joe, don’t feed us some
line about how you drew names out of a hat, because I *know* there had to be
some sneaky mathematical basis for choosing ... don’t worry, though, we still
have some time before we need to divvy out teams.
By the way, Kudo’s to Jorge for bringing his recent constructs to the meeting
Monday.
Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Scalding Commentaries?
-s
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In Summary:
DATE: September TBD, 2003
TL: 6
Budget per person: 150 CP
Teams: TBD
Environs: Urban
Anything else?
-s
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
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It’s been far too long since we last played Brikwars. Dan’s incessant
drooling over the prospect of another game had inspired my to stand up, mop
off, and try to get the ball rolling. I mean, it’s not as if we have
anything else on our plates at the moment, is it?
So I’m soliciting ideas on what the next game should be, and be like. I’m
throwing out an idea here, but I’d welcome support, refutation, or
alternative ideas:
Tek Level: TL 5 or 6
Budget: 150 or 200 CP
Environs: Urban/City
I’ve been on a big BubbleGum Crisis (http://www.megatokyobgc.net/) kick
lately, so I’m envisioning different groups running around with different
agendas. For example:
Authorities: Trying to reign in mayhem and take down
disturbers-of-the-peace
Vigilantes: Trying not to take down authorities or civilians, but trying to
take down subversive elements
Subversive Elements: Trying to accomplish their own evil ends, couldn’t
care less about authorities or collateral damage. Would also love the
chance to take down vigilantes
And, of course, power armor, robots, and vehicles would be encouraged! The
caveat is that with such a small budget allowance per player, these
represent significant investments. On the other hand, we can have fast and
furious turns if everybody only has a couple of troops, plus we can endow
each trooper with personalities that makes their unavoidable demise all that
much more spectacular and painful.
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I'm up for playing and as far as I can tell, the 13th sounds good. I can
also bring a few 'urban structures' with me.
Are we going to have teams? Also, might this game lend itself to hit points
(HP) since we will have very few units?
I've also been thinking...the new World City Police sets would work well in
this scenario, don't you think? Nothing like a bunch of underpowered,
annoying belligerent people mucking up our battles.
- Joe
"Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
news:HKA4JG.1KzE@lugnet.com...
> (In Monster Truck announcer voiceover)
>
> {[WATCH] ... as Jorge's speeding TurboCycle becomes a slagged heap of • burning
> plastic!!!}
>
> {[HEAR] ... Wayne's moans of agony as his stalwart troops are turned into • a
> steaming heap of minifig detritus!!!}
>
> {[SMELL] ... the fear and garlic pickle spears on Dan's breath!!!}
>
> {[FEEL] ... the tension as Joe calmly pulls out his *&%#&*) female Chakram
> chucker and tries to explain that she's been reborn as a Boomer!!!}
>
> {[EXPERIENCE] ... Bubblebrick Crisis!!!}
>
>
> So far, it looks as though September 13th works for people. As for • location,
> I'm more than willing to host, if people don't mind making a trek North. • I can
> also make sure that we have some adequate barbeque supplies, crock pot • eatables,
> and other foodstuffs so we don't have to worry about the 40 minute Pizza • run.
> We'd probably also need a couple of NELUG tables for the setup, as I have • space
> but no sprawling tabletops.
>
> If Brikwarring Amongst The BearsT seems a little too far out of the way • for
> people, we can also pick a more centralized location, and I won't be • offended.
>
> So far, we have interest from Wayne, Jorge, Dan, Jenn, and that dorky kid • with
> the shaved head. Anybody else? At the very least, it is imperative that • Joe
> Comeau divulge his secret uber-random team-formation algorithm, since my • schemes
> all took on the complexity of quantum machinery. And Joe, don't feed us • some
> line about how you drew names out of a hat, because I *know* there had to • be
> some sneaky mathematical basis for choosing ... don't worry, though, we • still
> have some time before we need to divvy out teams.
>
> By the way, Kudo's to Jorge for bringing his recent constructs to the • meeting
> Monday.
>
> Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Scalding Commentaries?
>
> -s
>
>
> > In Summary:
> >
> > DATE: September TBD, 2003
> > TL: 6
> > Budget per person: 150 CP
> > Teams: TBD
> > Environs: Urban
> >
> > Anything else?
> >
> > -s
> >
> >
> > > In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> > > > It's been far too long since we last played Brikwars. Dan's incessant
> > > > drooling over the prospect of another game had inspired my to stand • up, mop
> > > > off, and try to get the ball rolling. I mean, it's not as if we have
> > > > anything else on our plates at the moment, is it?
> > > >
> > > > So I'm soliciting ideas on what the next game should be, and be like. • I'm
> > > > throwing out an idea here, but I'd welcome support, refutation, or
> > > > alternative ideas:
> > > >
> > > > Tek Level: TL 5 or 6
> > > > Budget: 150 or 200 CP
> > > > Environs: Urban/City
> > > >
> > > > I've been on a big BubbleGum Crisis (http://www.megatokyobgc.net/) • kick
> > > > lately, so I'm envisioning different groups running around with • different
> > > > agendas. For example:
> > > >
> > > > Authorities: Trying to reign in mayhem and take down
> > > > disturbers-of-the-peace
> > > >
> > > > Vigilantes: Trying not to take down authorities or civilians, but • trying to
> > > > take down subversive elements
> > > >
> > > > Subversive Elements: Trying to accomplish their own evil ends, • couldn't
> > > > care less about authorities or collateral damage. Would also love the
> > > > chance to take down vigilantes
> > > >
> > > > And, of course, power armor, robots, and vehicles would be encouraged! • The
> > > > caveat is that with such a small budget allowance per player, these
> > > > represent significant investments. On the other hand, we can have • fast and
> > > > furious turns if everybody only has a couple of troops, plus we can • endow
> > > > each trooper with personalities that makes their unavoidable demise • all that
> > > > much more spectacular and painful.
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Joe Comeau wrote:
> I'm up for playing and as far as I can tell, the 13th sounds good. I can
> also bring a few 'urban structures' with me.
>
> Are we going to have teams? Also, might this game lend itself to hit points
> (HP) since we will have very few units?
>
> I've also been thinking...the new World City Police sets would work well in
> this scenario, don't you think? Nothing like a bunch of underpowered,
> annoying belligerent people mucking up our battles.
HA! Exactly! Actually, you're one step ahead of me ... I was trying to devise
how we might operate with 3 teams, plus civilians. Each of the three teams has
different rules of engagement:
(1) Team ADP Police: may attack Team Villian and/or Team Vigilante, but must
also protect civilians
(2) Team Vigilante: may only attack Team Villian. May *not* attack team Team
ADP, and in fact should try to protect members of Team ADP and civilians
(3) Team Villian: do I even need to say it? Blatant disregard for all teams -
may attack Team ADP Police, Team Vigilante, and any civvies who stand in the way
between them and World Domination
(4) Civilians: Randomly controlled, except each team gets to roll a 1d6 at the
beginning of their turn, and can move that number of civilians however they like
(within reason). Therefore, Team ADP Police may move civilians into shelter,
and out of the conflict, representing fleeing citizenry seeking safety. On the
other hand, team Villian may have civilians "panic" and run in front of Team ADP
Police, into lines of fire, and so on. Team Vigilante will probably want to
have civilians in their control line up to receive autographs from the
Lawbreaking Justice Enforcers.
Actually, what Joe's saying is perfect, too ... the ADP Police were separate
from the regular police, so the World City Fuzz could be pleasantly bumbling and
comic, and fall under the "civilians" or "non-team" personnel!
Additionally, each team should probably have a goal that they're trying to
fulfill. Team Villian might be kidnapping a scientist or stealing data disks
from throughout the scientific quarter of the city. Team ADP might have to
protect as many citizens as possible, with whatever means necessary. And so on
... I'm happily looking for any ideas here.
-s
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Joe Comeau wrote:
> I'm up for playing and as far as I can tell, the 13th sounds good. I can
> also bring a few 'urban structures' with me.
I'm up for this game, but I don't know what I'll be able to build, since I'm not
to familar with Bubble Gum Crisis. I'm going to try and build an armored
minifig and a mech suit that should take the total 150cp.
> Are we going to have teams?
Could we set it up similar to the super heroes game where we all worked
together. If some one else is willing to work with me to come up with a good
opposing team, I would be willing to control them during the game in addition to
my one Mech. I'm very good at being netural when playing both sides.
> Also, might this game lend itself to hit points (HP) since we will have
> very few units?
Since I'm using all of my CP on one unit, I would prefer to use hit points so
that I can last longer than my usual 3 turns.
> I've also been thinking...the new World City Police sets would work well in
> this scenario, don't you think? Nothing like a bunch of underpowered,
> annoying belligerent people mucking up our battles.
I'm not familar with that set, but I think it would be a lot of fun to destroy a
Jack Stone Police Station or any of his other sets.
> "Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
> > If Brikwarring Amongst The BearsT seems a little too far out of the way for
> > people, we can also pick a more centralized location, and I won't be
> > offended.
To give the group options, I can also host so I'll leave it up to the group as
to where to have the game. If pizza has gotten tiresome, I have a grill in the
backyard that we can use if we want to bring food to cook. I think I can figure
out how to cook a pizza on the grill. ;-)
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Quoting Shaun Sullivan <shaun_sullivan@irco.com>:
> So far, it looks as though September 13th works for people. As for
> location,
> I'm more than willing to host, if people don't mind making a trek North. I
> can
> also make sure that we have some adequate barbeque supplies, crock pot
> eatables,
> and other foodstuffs so we don't have to worry about the 40 minute Pizza
> run.
> We'd probably also need a couple of NELUG tables for the setup, as I have
> space
> but no sprawling tabletops.
I think this works for us, and I'd like to have Brikwarring Amongst The Bears.
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Crisiriffic!
Location doesn't matter too much to me. Unless Shaun lives closer to the
Canadian boarder, then there's some legal issues for me; they've got a
restraining order and I'm not allowed within 500 feet of America Jr, but that's
another story. ;P
Just so I understand it, I can spend the 150 however I want? I'm pretty sure I
can come up with some troopers, or is this a case where the goodies are being
supplied? I'm a tiny bit confused on what to be building though. Should I pick a
theme? I was thinking of a sort of TL6 SWAT team, but I don't know if that
messes with the story line that's emerging.
Just point me in the right direction and I'll see how badly I can screw it up.
:D
-Evil Wayne
In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Jennifer L. Boger wrote:
> Quoting Shaun Sullivan <shaun_sullivan@irco.com>:
>
>
> > So far, it looks as though September 13th works for people. As for
> > location,
> > I'm more than willing to host, if people don't mind making a trek North. I
> > can
> > also make sure that we have some adequate barbeque supplies, crock pot
> > eatables,
> > and other foodstuffs so we don't have to worry about the 40 minute Pizza
> > run.
> > We'd probably also need a couple of NELUG tables for the setup, as I have
> > space
> > but no sprawling tabletops.
>
> I think this works for us, and I'd like to have Brikwarring Amongst The Bears.
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Wayne McCaul wrote:
>
> Just so I understand it, I can spend the 150 however I want?
Yes Wayne, you can build your army out of Playful Kittens. I know you had asked
me about this last time I saw you, and this time I decided that you could try
your twisted "cuddle them until they yield" strategy. I still think it lacks a
bit in panache, though.
> I'm pretty sure I
> can come up with some troopers, or is this a case where the goodies are being
> supplied? I'm a tiny bit confused on what to be building though. Should I pick
> a theme? I was thinking of a sort of TL6 SWAT team, but I don't know if that
> messes with the story line that's emerging.
Seriously, feel free to build whatever you like (as long as it fits into the
general genre). We'll divide up into teams later. If you specifically want to
be on a particular team, or have stuff you think should only be on a particular
team (such as your patented "My Little LEGO Kitty Police Cruiser"), we can work
that in as well.
> Just point me in the right direction and I'll see how cleverly I can dress it
> up in pastel colors and apply a general "petting zoo" theme to it :D
>
> -"Kittens and Bunnies" Wayne
Your nickname is too weird for words.
-s
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Jennifer L. Boger wrote:
> > Quoting Shaun Sullivan <shaun_sullivan@irco.com>:
> >
> >
> > > So far, it looks as though September 13th works for people. As for
> > > location,
> > > I'm more than willing to host, if people don't mind making a trek North. I
> > > can
> > > also make sure that we have some adequate barbeque supplies, crock pot
> > > eatables,
> > > and other foodstuffs so we don't have to worry about the 40 minute Pizza
> > > run.
> > > We'd probably also need a couple of NELUG tables for the setup, as I have
> > > space
> > > but no sprawling tabletops.
> >
> > I think this works for us, and I'd like to have Brikwarring Amongst The Bears.
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Oh you won't think it's funny when a 42-Kiloton-Persian is bearing down on you.
I've got my patented Fluffy Kitty Fallout Chart almost finished.
No where to run, nowhere to hide, baby.
BTW, thanks for blowing my strategy. :P
-Evil "It's-All-Fun-and-Games-Until-the-Fwuffy-Wittle-Kitty-Goes-Nuclear" Wayne
In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Wayne McCaul wrote:
> >
> > Just so I understand it, I can spend the 150 however I want?
>
> Yes Wayne, you can build your army out of Playful Kittens. I know you had asked
> me about this last time I saw you, and this time I decided that you could try
> your twisted "cuddle them until they yield" strategy. I still think it lacks a
> bit in panache, though.
>
> > I'm pretty sure I
> > can come up with some troopers, or is this a case where the goodies are being
> > supplied? I'm a tiny bit confused on what to be building though. Should I pick
> > a theme? I was thinking of a sort of TL6 SWAT team, but I don't know if that
> > messes with the story line that's emerging.
>
> Seriously, feel free to build whatever you like (as long as it fits into the
> general genre). We'll divide up into teams later. If you specifically want to
> be on a particular team, or have stuff you think should only be on a particular
> team (such as your patented "My Little LEGO Kitty Police Cruiser"), we can work
> that in as well.
>
>
> > Just point me in the right direction and I'll see how cleverly I can dress it
> > up in pastel colors and apply a general "petting zoo" theme to it :D
> >
> > -"Kittens and Bunnies" Wayne
>
> Your nickname is too weird for words.
>
> -s
>
>
> > In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Jennifer L. Boger wrote:
> > > Quoting Shaun Sullivan <shaun_sullivan@irco.com>:
> > >
> > >
> > > > So far, it looks as though September 13th works for people. As for
> > > > location,
> > > > I'm more than willing to host, if people don't mind making a trek North. I
> > > > can
> > > > also make sure that we have some adequate barbeque supplies, crock pot
> > > > eatables,
> > > > and other foodstuffs so we don't have to worry about the 40 minute Pizza
> > > > run.
> > > > We'd probably also need a couple of NELUG tables for the setup, as I have
> > > > space
> > > > but no sprawling tabletops.
> > >
> > > I think this works for us, and I'd like to have Brikwarring Amongst The Bears.
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"Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
news:HKA8z3.45v@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Joe Comeau wrote:
> > I've also been thinking...the new World City Police sets would work well • in
> > this scenario, don't you think? Nothing like a bunch of underpowered,
> > annoying belligerent people mucking up our battles.
>
> HA! Exactly! Actually, you're one step ahead of me ...
Naturally.
> I was trying to devise
> how we might operate with 3 teams, plus civilians. Each of the three • teams has
> different rules of engagement:
>
> (1) Team ADP Police: may attack Team Villian and/or Team Vigilante, but • must
> also protect civilians
>
> (2) Team Vigilante: may only attack Team Villian. May *not* attack team • Team
> ADP, and in fact should try to protect members of Team ADP and civilians
>
> (3) Team Villian: do I even need to say it? Blatant disregard for all • teams -
> may attack Team ADP Police, Team Vigilante, and any civvies who stand in • the way
> between them and World Domination
>
> (4) Civilians: Randomly controlled, except each team gets to roll a 1d6 • at the
> beginning of their turn, and can move that number of civilians however • they like
> (within reason). Therefore, Team ADP Police may move civilians into • shelter,
> and out of the conflict, representing fleeing citizenry seeking safety. • On the
> other hand, team Villian may have civilians "panic" and run in front of • Team ADP
> Police, into lines of fire, and so on. Team Vigilante will probably want • to
> have civilians in their control line up to receive autographs from the
> Lawbreaking Justice Enforcers.
Hmmm. I like this idea. I was thinking along the lines of what we did for
the TL6 modular game where there was two teams plus and "independent." In
this case, I was thinking the independent would be some mega-corporation
with some niffty Boomer-like weapons. Your suggestions above are more in
line with BGC, though.
I do like the general idea of a set of "rules" which the teams live by,
*but* I think the villians need one too. They must be there for a reason
and presumeably just wnat to get the job done (obtain new plans, remove some
politician who's reforms would hurt the company they represent, ingore
anything that isn't an immediate threat, must waste an entire turn before
destroying a vigilante unit explaining all of their diabolical plans so that
help can get their in time for a rescue, etc.).
> Actually, what Joe's saying is perfect, too ... the ADP Police were • separate
> from the regular police, so the World City Fuzz could be pleasantly • bumbling and
> comic, and fall under the "civilians" or "non-team" personnel!
Absolutely...and someone must bring a couple of helicopters...we can't have
BGC without having a copter or two blown from the sky.
> Additionally, each team should probably have a goal that they're trying to
> fulfill. Team Villian might be kidnapping a scientist or stealing data • disks
> from throughout the scientific quarter of the city. Team ADP might have • to
> protect as many citizens as possible, with whatever means necessary. And • so on
> ... I'm happily looking for any ideas here.
Well, I mentioned my ideas above. Although it would be fun if by doing
certain things, "CP awards" were given so that upgrades could be made for
future games. Saving a civilian earns you +2 CP, while destroying a Boomer
gets you +10 CP, etc. This way, you can use the same unit, but have the
ability to make it better the longer it survives. Presumably, this would
also apply to the villains in a reverse connotation. Just a thought.
- Joe
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I'm in. Just let me know what i need to build for a team. Or what i need
to consider when thinking of a team.
-tk
"Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
news:HKA4JG.1KzE@lugnet.com...
> (In Monster Truck announcer voiceover)
>
> {[WATCH] ... as Jorge's speeding TurboCycle becomes a slagged heap of • burning
> plastic!!!}
>
> {[HEAR] ... Wayne's moans of agony as his stalwart troops are turned into • a
> steaming heap of minifig detritus!!!}
>
> {[SMELL] ... the fear and garlic pickle spears on Dan's breath!!!}
>
> {[FEEL] ... the tension as Joe calmly pulls out his *&%#&*) female Chakram
> chucker and tries to explain that she's been reborn as a Boomer!!!}
>
> {[EXPERIENCE] ... Bubblebrick Crisis!!!}
>
>
> So far, it looks as though September 13th works for people. As for • location,
> I'm more than willing to host, if people don't mind making a trek North. • I can
> also make sure that we have some adequate barbeque supplies, crock pot • eatables,
> and other foodstuffs so we don't have to worry about the 40 minute Pizza • run.
> We'd probably also need a couple of NELUG tables for the setup, as I have • space
> but no sprawling tabletops.
>
> If Brikwarring Amongst The BearsT seems a little too far out of the way • for
> people, we can also pick a more centralized location, and I won't be • offended.
>
> So far, we have interest from Wayne, Jorge, Dan, Jenn, and that dorky kid • with
> the shaved head. Anybody else? At the very least, it is imperative that • Joe
> Comeau divulge his secret uber-random team-formation algorithm, since my • schemes
> all took on the complexity of quantum machinery. And Joe, don't feed us • some
> line about how you drew names out of a hat, because I *know* there had to • be
> some sneaky mathematical basis for choosing ... don't worry, though, we • still
> have some time before we need to divvy out teams.
>
> By the way, Kudo's to Jorge for bringing his recent constructs to the • meeting
> Monday.
>
> Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Scalding Commentaries?
>
> -s
>
>
> > In Summary:
> >
> > DATE: September TBD, 2003
> > TL: 6
> > Budget per person: 150 CP
> > Teams: TBD
> > Environs: Urban
> >
> > Anything else?
> >
> > -s
> >
> >
> > > In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> > > > It's been far too long since we last played Brikwars. Dan's incessant
> > > > drooling over the prospect of another game had inspired my to stand • up, mop
> > > > off, and try to get the ball rolling. I mean, it's not as if we have
> > > > anything else on our plates at the moment, is it?
> > > >
> > > > So I'm soliciting ideas on what the next game should be, and be like. • I'm
> > > > throwing out an idea here, but I'd welcome support, refutation, or
> > > > alternative ideas:
> > > >
> > > > Tek Level: TL 5 or 6
> > > > Budget: 150 or 200 CP
> > > > Environs: Urban/City
> > > >
> > > > I've been on a big BubbleGum Crisis (http://www.megatokyobgc.net/) • kick
> > > > lately, so I'm envisioning different groups running around with • different
> > > > agendas. For example:
> > > >
> > > > Authorities: Trying to reign in mayhem and take down
> > > > disturbers-of-the-peace
> > > >
> > > > Vigilantes: Trying not to take down authorities or civilians, but • trying to
> > > > take down subversive elements
> > > >
> > > > Subversive Elements: Trying to accomplish their own evil ends, • couldn't
> > > > care less about authorities or collateral damage. Would also love the
> > > > chance to take down vigilantes
> > > >
> > > > And, of course, power armor, robots, and vehicles would be encouraged! • The
> > > > caveat is that with such a small budget allowance per player, these
> > > > represent significant investments. On the other hand, we can have • fast and
> > > > furious turns if everybody only has a couple of troops, plus we can • endow
> > > > each trooper with personalities that makes their unavoidable demise • all that
> > > > much more spectacular and painful.
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Jonathan Dallas wrote:
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Joe Comeau wrote:
>
> > Are we going to have teams?
>
> Could we set it up similar to the super heroes game where we all worked
> together. If some one else is willing to work with me to come up with a good
> opposing team, I would be willing to control them during the game in addition
> to my one Mech. I'm very good at being netural when playing both sides.
I think there should definitely be teams ... much of the fun comes from pitting
your strategic prowess against that of the others. Besides, you of all people
should recall that even people who are supposed to be working together may
occasionally ... deviate ... and attack teammates!! And that is, truly, a
beautiful thing.
> > Also, might this game lend itself to hit points (HP) since we will have
> > very few units?
>
> Since I'm using all of my CP on one unit, I would prefer to use hit points so
> that I can last longer than my usual 3 turns.
I'm definitely up for this ... especially since most people will only have a
handful of troops, at most (and in some cases, only one!) Note that the
information on Hitpoints can be found in section 1.3 of the Brikwars rules.
Some things to keep in mind if we all decide to go this route:
(1) AV no longer has any application when you use hit points. Basically, if the
attacker fulfills the UR requirement, the hit *will* deduct damage from the
target. In this way, even a firebreathing dragon could be killed eventually
base on repeated punches.
(2) Mechs and vehicles, when destroyed, explode in a fireball with damage equal
to their AV (or their AV equivalent if hit points are also applied to vehicles,
which is a possibility). In many cases, this will still be enough to vaporize
characters, even if they have hit points. My suggestion: stay out of
unbelievably huge fireballs.
-s
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"Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
news:HKC743.15oD@lugnet.com...
> I think there should definitely be teams ... much of the fun comes from • pitting
> your strategic prowess against that of the others. Besides, you of all • people
> should recall that even people who are supposed to be working together may
> occasionally ... deviate ... and attack teammates!! And that is, truly, a
> beautiful thing.
Shaun, sometimes I have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about.
> > > Also, might this game lend itself to hit points (HP) since we will have
> > > very few units?
> >
> > Since I'm using all of my CP on one unit, I would prefer to use hit • points so
> > that I can last longer than my usual 3 turns.
>
> I'm definitely up for this ... especially since most people will only have • a
> handful of troops, at most (and in some cases, only one!) Note that the
> information on Hitpoints can be found in section 1.3 of the Brikwars • rules.
> Some things to keep in mind if we all decide to go this route:
>
> (1) AV no longer has any application when you use hit points. Basically, • if the
> attacker fulfills the UR requirement, the hit *will* deduct damage from • the
> target. In this way, even a firebreathing dragon could be killed • eventually
> base on repeated punches.
Absolutely! That's what makes it so cool in my opinion (yes, I actually
spelled it out, how quaint of me).
> (2) Mechs and vehicles, when destroyed, explode in a fireball with damage • equal
> to their AV (or their AV equivalent if hit points are also applied to • vehicles,
> which is a possibility). In many cases, this will still be enough to • vaporize
> characters, even if they have hit points. My suggestion: stay out of
> unbelievably huge fireballs.
And this is just icing on the cake!
Of course, you are also implying something here...in order to create our
power-suits (or mechs, potentially), we should be creating them as vehicles
and *not* as alternate species...correct?
- Joe
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Joe Comeau wrote:
>
> "Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
> news:HKC743.15oD@lugnet.com...
>
> > I think there should definitely be teams ... much of the fun comes from
> > pitting your strategic prowess against that of the others. Besides, you
> > of all people should recall that even people who are supposed to be
> > working together may occasionally ... deviate ... and attack teammates!!
> > And that is, truly, a beautiful thing.
>
> Shaun, sometimes I have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about.
That reminds me, Can Joe and I be on seperate teams? I still have this stabbing
pain in my back from the last game. ;-)
Seriously though aren't dragon notrious for switching sides in a battle if it
means that get some shiney treasure?
<snip>
> > (2) Mechs and vehicles, when destroyed, explode in a fireball with damage
> > equal to their AV (or their AV equivalent if hit points are also applied
> > to vehicles, which is a possibility). In many cases, this will still be
> > enough to vaporize characters, even if they have hit points. My
> > suggestion: stay out of unbelievably huge fireballs.
Thanks Shaun for bringing up the Fireball aspect. You know how I feel about
fireballs. Hey do you think it would be possible to have an escape pod for my
pilot?
Jonathan
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> So far, we have interest from Wayne, Jorge, Dan, Jenn, and that dorky kid
> with the shaved head. Anybody else?
So. I've been strangely quiet considering that this is BrikWars and I'm usually
all for playing. Unfortunately, the weekend of Sept 13th is the weekend we're
planning on doing major changes at work, so I may or may not be working. May or
may not be, you ask? Yes. Saturday/Sunday hasn't yet been decided, and there's
still the distinct possibility that it won't happen that weekend, but some other
time instead.
And the 27th/28th I'm going on a whitewater rafting/ATV adventure in Maine.
Which leaves the 20th/21st that I'm free, but work may decide to postpone the
major change to that weekend.
Anyway. I'm not sure how much time I'll have to build, but if it turns out I'm
free, maybe I'll stop in and act all haughty by correcting all of your miserably
inaccurate interpretations of the rules. And maybe if I get a chance to build
I'll even pop in some scenery or mechs or something. Heck, maybe I can play the
civilians.
DaveE
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, David Eaton wrote:
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> > So far, we have interest from Wayne, Jorge, Dan, Jenn, and that dorky kid
> > with the shaved head. Anybody else?
>
> So. I've been strangely quiet considering that this is BrikWars and I'm
> usually all for playing. Unfortunately, the weekend of Sept 13th is the
> weekend we're planning on doing major changes at work, so I may or may not be
> working. May or may not be, you ask? Yes. Saturday/Sunday hasn't yet been
> decided, and there's still the distinct possibility that it won't happen that
> weekend, but some other time instead.
Perhaps you might consider kindly asking your employers to go jump in a lake?
It all sounds too Office Space for my liking.
[Lumbergh]
"Mmmmmmm, yyeeeeeaaaahhh, we're going to have to go ahead and ask you to come in
this weekend."
[/Lumbergh]
Maybe if you explained how important this is?
> And the 27th/28th I'm going on a whitewater rafting/ATV adventure in Maine.
> Which leaves the 20th/21st that I'm free, but work may decide to postpone the
> major change to that weekend.
>
> Anyway. I'm not sure how much time I'll have to build, but if it turns out I'm
> free, maybe I'll stop in and act all haughty by correcting all of your
> miserably inaccurate interpretations of the rules. And maybe if I get a chance
> to build I'll even pop in some scenery or mechs or something. Heck, maybe I
> can play the civilians.
That's certainly a possibility. Though you'd definitely be able to play some
troops as well. So far I've got about 300 CP worth of constructions, with
another 150 or so in the works for the fun of it.
Alternatively, we could change the date to the 20th/21st, but I believe someone
else mentioned that they weren't available then. Besides, you know that the big
changes at work are going to be postponed :P
-s
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So far, we've received initial applications from the following potential
combatants:
Jenn "Bloodlust" Boger
Dan "BrainBiter" Boger
Travis "StumpGiver" Kunce
Joe "BellySticker" Comeau
Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
Jonathan "FireLicker" Dallas
Shaun "ToeStubber" Sullivan
Wayne "FleshRender" McCaul
with a resounding maybe from:
Dave "Crotchsmasher" Eaton
(any updates for us, Dave? Give us the good word!)
Is there anybody else? We're looking to start divvying up into teams soon, so's
get your name on the list!
Also, anybody above dead-set on one team (ADP Police, Vigilantes, Villians) or
another? If you've been building things that are like blue and white cars, with
flashing lights on top, tell me now so I can make sure you're on the ADP Police
team ... and no, the missions/battle constraints have't been publicized yet :P
-s
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Well, I'll have some guys that look disturbingly similar to these dudes:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=19258
I have at least one small piece of mecha hardware (Nuclear PuddyTat
Omega-Thunder Six), hopefully more if MeanTine doesn't notice I've been sneaking
more and more Lego back into the house.
I should probably start working on stats before I get too far along, though.
Don't know if that helps or not
FleshRender
In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> So far, we've received initial applications from the following potential
> combatants:
>
> Jenn "Bloodlust" Boger
> Dan "BrainBiter" Boger
> Travis "StumpGiver" Kunce
> Joe "BellySticker" Comeau
> Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
> Jonathan "FireLicker" Dallas
> Shaun "ToeStubber" Sullivan
> Wayne "FleshRender" McCaul
>
> with a resounding maybe from:
>
> Dave "Crotchsmasher" Eaton
>
> (any updates for us, Dave? Give us the good word!)
>
> Is there anybody else? We're looking to start divvying up into teams soon, so's
> get your name on the list!
>
> Also, anybody above dead-set on one team (ADP Police, Vigilantes, Villians) or
> another? If you've been building things that are like blue and white cars, with
> flashing lights on top, tell me now so I can make sure you're on the ADP Police
> team ... and no, the missions/battle constraints have't been publicized yet :P
>
> -s
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> So far, we've received initial applications from the following potential
> combatants:
>
> Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
> Jonathan "FireLicker" Dallas
I skimmed through these too quickly, I almost choked on my frosty beverage when
I thought I read 'Jorge "GroinLicker" Fernandez.' Man, where's my mind at.
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"Mike Rayhawk" <rayhawk@artcenter.edu> wrote in message
news:HKnq97.qGC@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> > So far, we've received initial applications from the following potential
> > combatants:
> >
> > Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
> > Jonathan "FireLicker" Dallas
>
> I skimmed through these too quickly, I almost choked on my frosty beverage • when
> I thought I read 'Jorge "GroinLicker" Fernandez.' Man, where's my mind
at.
Where it usually is, I'll wager.
- Joe
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"Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
news:HKn9Dn.EGq@lugnet.com...
> So far, we've received initial applications from the following potential
> combatants:
>
> Jenn "Bloodlust" Boger
> Dan "BrainBiter" Boger
> Travis "StumpGiver" Kunce
> Joe "BellySticker" Comeau
> Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
> Jonathan "FireLicker" Dallas
> Shaun "ToeStubber" Sullivan
> Wayne "FleshRender" McCaul
>
> with a resounding maybe from:
>
> Dave "Crotchsmasher" Eaton
>
> (any updates for us, Dave? Give us the good word!)
>
> Is there anybody else? We're looking to start divvying up into teams • soon, so's
> get your name on the list!
>
> Also, anybody above dead-set on one team (ADP Police, Vigilantes, • Villians) or
> another? If you've been building things that are like blue and white • cars, with
> flashing lights on top, tell me now so I can make sure you're on the ADP • Police
> team ... and no, the missions/battle constraints have't been publicized
yet :P
I guess I would lean towards the vigilantes or villains, but it makes no
real difference to me. My creation so far is a little on the dark side
being that it's all black. But black is the new white, all the heroes are
wearing it these days.
- Joe
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Mike Rayhawk wrote:
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> > So far, we've received initial applications from the following potential
> > combatants:
> >
> > Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
> > Jonathan "FireLicker" Dallas
>
> I skimmed through these too quickly, I almost choked on my frosty beverage when
> I thought I read 'Jorge "GroinLicker" Fernandez.' Man, where's my mind at.
*LOL* Wow!... what was in that drink!?!?!
J.-
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Joe Comeau wrote:
> > <snip>
>
> HA! Exactly! Actually, you're one step ahead of me ... I was trying to
> devise how we might operate with 3 teams, plus civilians. Each of the
> three teams has different rules of engagement:
>
> (1) Team ADP Police:
> (2) Team Vigilante:
> (3) Team Villian:
> (4) Civilians:
> ... I'm happily looking for any ideas here.
I have couple of thoughts on teams depending on whether we have 8 players or 9.
If we have 8 players then I would suggest having the civilians as a fourth team
dedicated to general annoyance. If we have 9 players then I would suggest 3
teams and have the civilians as random.
I would be more than willing to play the world city police officers and
civilians if need be, since I'm not much of a mech builder. Also I think I
could be good at being a general annoyance or even a major, but I draw the line
at being a private.
Jonathan
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i'm into doing something a little chaotic, so villian is my first choice,
but i'm kewl with whatever.
-tk
"Joe Comeau" <joecomeau@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:HKp0C3.1tE8@lugnet.com...
>
> "Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
> news:HKn9Dn.EGq@lugnet.com...
> > So far, we've received initial applications from the following potential
> > combatants:
> >
> > Jenn "Bloodlust" Boger
> > Dan "BrainBiter" Boger
> > Travis "StumpGiver" Kunce
> > Joe "BellySticker" Comeau
> > Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
> > Jonathan "FireLicker" Dallas
> > Shaun "ToeStubber" Sullivan
> > Wayne "FleshRender" McCaul
> >
> > with a resounding maybe from:
> >
> > Dave "Crotchsmasher" Eaton
> >
> > (any updates for us, Dave? Give us the good word!)
> >
> > Is there anybody else? We're looking to start divvying up into teams • soon, so's
> > get your name on the list!
> >
> > Also, anybody above dead-set on one team (ADP Police, Vigilantes, • Villians) or
> > another? If you've been building things that are like blue and white • cars, with
> > flashing lights on top, tell me now so I can make sure you're on the ADP • Police
> > team ... and no, the missions/battle constraints have't been publicized
> yet :P
>
> I guess I would lean towards the vigilantes or villains, but it makes no
> real difference to me. My creation so far is a little on the dark side
> being that it's all black. But black is the new white, all the heroes are
> wearing it these days.
>
> - Joe
>
>
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Travis Kunce wrote:
> > "Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
> > news:HKn9Dn.EGq@lugnet.com...
> > > So far, we've received initial applications from the following potential
> > > combatants:
> > >
> > > Jenn "Bloodlust" Boger
> > > Dan "BrainBiter" Boger
> > > Travis "StumpGiver" Kunce
> > > Joe "BellySticker" Comeau
> > > Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
> > > Jonathan "FireLicker" Dallas
> > > Shaun "ToeStubber" Sullivan
> > > Wayne "FleshRender" McCaul
> > >
> > > with a resounding maybe from:
> > >
> > > Dave "Crotchsmasher" Eaton
All right, here's what we have for teams so far:
The Baddies (aka Evil Corporate Villains):
Joe "BellySticker" Comeau
Dan "BrainBiter" Boger
Travis "StumpGiver" Kunce
The Upstarts (aka Vigilante Justice):
Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
Jenn "Bloodlust" Boger
Shaun "ToeStubber" Sullivan
The ADP Police (aka The Fuzz):
Jonathan
The Masses (aka Civilian Cannon Fodder):
To be controlled in conjunction with a fun little random-esque algorithm being
developed. Both sides will have partial control of said civvies, much like
sheep in a long-past medieval game.
TBD:
Wayne "FleshRender" McCaul
Dave "Crotchsmasher" Eaton
A couple of notes:
(1) Everybody shoudl bring any town accoutrements they can - it doesn't matter
whether they're standard sets, MOCs, or just simply furniture ... anything to
pack detail into our urban sprawl would be great. In fact, the more small
things (dumpsters, lamps, hydrants, furniture, cars, garbage cans, mailboxes,
phone booths, PIANOS, desks, filing cabinets, and so on) the better - if we get
a couple more buildings we'll probably have plenty, but it's important to make
sure there's lots of cover, debris, and detail!
(2) Jonathan, as per his request, will be playing the role of official
hindquarter ailment, or pain-in-the-&$$. Jonathan, feel free to play loose and
wild with your CP allotment - it's okay if you're hopelessly outgunned, 'cause
that's what police do best :P But having a couple squads of SWAT troops, cars,
paddy wagons, hoverbikes, choppers, etc should be fine. I mean, don't go nuts,
but feel free to put in 3-400 CP worth of law enforcement goodness
(3) Wayne is in the enviable position of being able to pick his poison at the
moment. He gets to decide whether he's a villian or a vigilante (unless he
wants to be randomly assigned ...). All bribery, incentive, and coersion to
influence him to be either on your team or off it may commence immediately.
Whichever team he is not on will be the one Dave Eaton is channelled into when
he finally stops playing hard-to-get and lets us know he'll be there.
(4) Further mission profiles will be forthcoming. The villains will have an
evil plot to carry out, and the vigilantes will have a suitable goal as well.
The goal of the Fuzz, of course, is to disrupt all other goals as much as
possible.
Any comments, questions, suggestions, feedback, and so on and so forth, are
welcome.
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Mike Rayhawk wrote:
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> > So far, we've received initial applications from the following potential
> > combatants:
> >
> > Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
> > Jonathan "FireLicker" Dallas
>
> I skimmed through these too quickly, I almost choked on my frosty beverage
> when I thought I read 'Jorge "GroinLicker" Fernandez.' Man, where's my mind
> at.
I read mine three times before I realized it didn't say "CrotchMaster". Man, I
like that much better... Or... maybe I like it worse. If only I weren't single.
Dang.
As for the game, sounds like we'll be doing work on that Saturday definitely.
Hopefully we'll be done by like noon or 1pm, but I dunno. Then it's only a short
49-hour drive to Shaun's place. So, maybe something like 2-3pm that I can show
up?
DaveE
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, David Eaton wrote:
>
> I read mine three times before I realized it didn't say "CrotchMaster". Man, I
> like that much better... Or... maybe I like it worse. If only I weren't single.
> Dang.
Hmmm, keep up with the excuses and we'll change your name to "CrochetMaster".
> As for the game, sounds like we'll be doing work on that Saturday definitely.
> Hopefully we'll be done by like noon or 1pm, but I dunno. Then it's only a short
> 49-hour drive to Shaun's place. So, maybe something like 2-3pm that I can show
> up?
49 hours? Hardly! Your place is the closest of anybody, actually! Besides, if
this were the AGOT games, we'd only be finishing our last turn at that point. I
expect this to go faster, since everybody will only have a handful of troops,
but a mid-game arrival of reinforcements is always uber-cool ...
-s
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Dagnabit.
The first link here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=46383
is actually what I'm working from. Yes, now the dark truth can be known. Evil
Wayne hasn't got a imaginative bone in his supple, nubile, third-person-talkin'
body. I just want to be loved. Is that too much to ask?!?!
I guess it doesn't matter what team I'm on. I'm more inclined for wholesale
destruction, but considering I'm probably going to have to steal my tactical
ideas beyond that maxim, I could be a real albatross to the team.
Or will I....?
I'll also need more distinct directions before next weekend (i.e., Cross the
boarder. Look for Moose. See unibomber-style shack, you've gone too far.)
-FleshRender
In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> >
> > All right, here's what we have for teams so far:
> >
> > The Baddies (aka Evil Corporate Villains):
> > Joe "BellySticker" Comeau
> > Dan "BrainBiter" Boger
> > Travis "StumpGiver" Kunce
> >
> > The Upstarts (aka Vigilante Justice):
> > Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
> > Jenn "Bloodlust" Boger
> > Shaun "ToeStubber" Sullivan
> >
> > The ADP Police (aka The Fuzz):
> > Jonathan
> >
> > The Masses (aka Civilian Cannon Fodder):
> > To be controlled in conjunction with a fun little random-esque algorithm being
> > developed. Both sides will have partial control of said civvies, much like
> > sheep in a long-past medieval game.
> >
> > TBD:
> > Wayne "FleshRender" McCaul
> > Dave "Crotchsmasher" Eaton
>
> ... And for anyone hungering for ideas, inspiration, or anticipatory glee,
> here's a short list of some links to small-scale buildables:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=46383
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=17454
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=53878
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=kerouac
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=54673
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=54567
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=mino
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=48684
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=48422
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=2059
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=37992
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=24821
>
> .. and so on. Or, just go scout around the previous highlighted mech pages at
> .build.mecha.
>
> Anyway, just some imagination food ...
>
> -s
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, David Eaton wrote:
> >
> > I read mine three times before I realized it didn't say "CrotchMaster".
> > Man, I like that much better... Or... maybe I like it worse. If only I
> > weren't single. Dang.
>
> Hmmm, keep up with the excuses and we'll change your name to "CrochetMaster".
Yep. I'll Crochet-up an awfully mean mech for the BrikWars game. He'll put all
your piddly Lego-mechs to shame; what with his Knitter-Arm and Button-Cannon.
Just you wait.
> > As for the game, sounds like we'll be doing work on that Saturday
> > definitely. Hopefully we'll be done by like noon or 1pm, but I dunno. Then
> > it's only a short 49-hour drive to Shaun's place. So, maybe something like
> > 2-3pm that I can show up?
>
> 49 hours? Hardly! Your place is the closest of anybody, actually!
That could very well be... I could make it part of my master plan, since I need
to sort out all my pieces before I have space in my apartment. I can demand that
all the players sort my brick before we start the game! Muhahaha!
How come forcing people to sort my bricks deserves a 'Muhahaha'? And with the
crocheting and all I just sound like some sort of evil grandmother.
> Besides, if this were the AGOT games, we'd only be finishing our last turn
> at that point. I expect this to go faster, since everybody will only have a
> handful of troops, but a mid-game arrival of reinforcements is always
> uber-cool ...
Considering we often set up until noon, do lunch, then start, it's *possible*
that I might show up right at the start of the game... All depends on how badly
we break things at work.
DaveE
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"Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
news:HKr27q.B9x@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> ... And for anyone hungering for ideas, inspiration, or anticipatory glee,
> here's a short list of some links to small-scale buildables:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=46383
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=17454
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=53878
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=kerouac
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=54673
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=54567
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=mino
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=48684
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=48422
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=2059
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=37992
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=24821
I was felling pretty happy with my little creations until I looked at these
links (the first few in particular)...now I'm miserable.
I don't suppose there will be any close combat fighting, will there?
Ideally there would be, since you can't have a great power-suit/mech battle
without punching the crap out of your foe, *especially* since you have an
arsenal of guns, rockets and energy weapons at your disposal. Do you think
there's any way, without hoisting too many rules upon the players, to enable
this kind of fighting?
Also, for the ADP Police, I don't think going over 300 CP is a good idea.
Remember, *everything* has the opportunity to cause damage in this game,
including a bunch of standard issue ADP police firing peashooters (or worse)
at us rather stylish, misunderstood, so-called "villains." In this
scenario, combined fire really makes no difference. Maybe the ADP Police
"recycle" themselves? It seems their life expectancy was quite short, yet
there was never a shortage of them. Maybe there is some sort of starting
point or maybe a "reset" every 3 (or whatever) turns where the ADP Police
get reinforcements and are back to their full allotment? Just some
thoughts.
Also, along those lines, if a villain or vigilante dies, can players bring
in a new one?
- Joe
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>
> The Baddies (aka Evil Corporate Villains):
> Joe "BellySticker" Comeau
> Dan "BrainBiter" Boger
> Travis "StumpGiver" Kunce
>
> The Upstarts (aka Vigilante Justice):
> Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
> Jenn "Bloodlust" Boger
> Shaun "ToeStubber" Sullivan
>
> The ADP Police (aka The Fuzz):
> Jonathan
>
> The Masses (aka Civilian Cannon Fodder):
> To be controlled in conjunction with a fun little random-esque algorithm • being
> developed. Both sides will have partial control of said civvies, much • like
> sheep in a long-past medieval game.
>
> TBD:
> Wayne "FleshRender" McCaul
> Dave "Crotchsmasher" Eaton
>
>
> A couple of notes:
>
> (1) Everybody shoudl bring any town accoutrements they can - it doesn't • matter
> whether they're standard sets, MOCs, or just simply furniture ... anything • to
> pack detail into our urban sprawl would be great. In fact, the more small
> things (dumpsters, lamps, hydrants, furniture, cars, garbage cans, • mailboxes,
> phone booths, PIANOS, desks, filing cabinets, and so on) the better - if • we get
> a couple more buildings we'll probably have plenty, but it's important to • make
> sure there's lots of cover, debris, and detail!
>
> (2) Jonathan, as per his request, will be playing the role of official
> hindquarter ailment, or pain-in-the-&$$. Jonathan, feel free to play • loose and
> wild with your CP allotment - it's okay if you're hopelessly outgunned, • 'cause
> that's what police do best :P But having a couple squads of SWAT troops, • cars,
> paddy wagons, hoverbikes, choppers, etc should be fine. I mean, don't go • nuts,
> but feel free to put in 3-400 CP worth of law enforcement goodness
>
> (3) Wayne is in the enviable position of being able to pick his poison at • the
> moment. He gets to decide whether he's a villian or a vigilante (unless • he
> wants to be randomly assigned ...). All bribery, incentive, and coersion • to
> influence him to be either on your team or off it may commence • immediately.
> Whichever team he is not on will be the one Dave Eaton is channelled into • when
> he finally stops playing hard-to-get and lets us know he'll be there.
>
> (4) Further mission profiles will be forthcoming. The villains will have • an
> evil plot to carry out, and the vigilantes will have a suitable goal as • well.
> The goal of the Fuzz, of course, is to disrupt all other goals as much as
> possible.
>
> Any comments, questions, suggestions, feedback, and so on and so forth, • are
> welcome.
>
> -s
Yoh... This is going to be fun. I can't beleive that I have a whole week to
make little things...
A couple of things i need to mention
1. I don't know squat about this point thing so you guys are going to have
to help me out lots or paitently explain it to me.
2. There are teams, but does each team consist of small team? Like joe dan
and myself will all have little squads? Correct.
3. Where can i find some refrence for this "crisis" online. So that I can
best tune my personal story line to be slightly accurate.
I want to get my hands on some NBA figs so that i can make an evil Rasta
squad. Can we work this in?
Death to All ADP
- Stump "Shabba" Giver
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"travis" <phree@comcast.net> wrote in message news:HKrII3.sJK@lugnet.com...
>
> Yoh... This is going to be fun. I can't beleive that I have a whole week • to
> make little things...
>
> A couple of things i need to mention
>
> 1. I don't know squat about this point thing so you guys are going to • have
> to help me out lots or paitently explain it to me.
No problem. Are you talking about costing out a unit, hit points or both?
If it's costing, I can help you privately (since we don't want to reveal our
diabolicalness until we unleashed the mayhem that is...us. Hmmm, we need to
come up with a name, like GENOM (see below).
> 2. There are teams, but does each team consist of small team? Like joe • dan
> and myself will all have little squads? Correct.
Yes, we each have our own allotment that consists up to 150 CP. So you may
make one uber unit or perhaps like a squad of 5 guys with really big guns,
or anything in between. Then Dan, you and I effectively make up an 'army'
totaling 450 CP. Now that we have the teams, we should probably coordinate,
and start build a strategy to rid the world of anything that stands in our
way. Of course, this may be difficult without knowing what our "agenda" is
that Shaun has in mind. No fair.
> 3. Where can i find some refrence for this "crisis" online. So that I • can
> best tune my personal story line to be slightly accurate.
Here's a good link: http://www.advfilms.com/favorites/bgc_2040/index.asp. Go
to the Story Overview which is a little further down on the first page. Be
sure to click on the character profile, too.
For some images and a brief synopsis, check out
http://www.megatokyobgc.net/. This is probably a better place to start, now
that I think of it. Be sure to check out the Boomer section.
> I want to get my hands on some NBA figs so that i can make an evil Rasta
> squad. Can we work this in?
You can work in whatever you want...as long as they can kill things.
> Death to All ADP
And those Knight Saber pests (or whatever they are calling themselves these
days)!
- Joe
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Wayne McCaul wrote:
>
> I guess it doesn't matter what team I'm on. I'm more inclined for wholesale
> destruction, but considering I'm probably going to have to steal my tactical
> ideas beyond that maxim, I could be a real albatross to the team.
>
> Or will I....?
Mr. Fleshrender,
We need to decide what team you're to be on right quick ... so you can be
included on strategy and planning e-mails for this coming week.
Hmm, I suddenly had this evil vision of you making backroom deals with the
villians, and then *pretending* to be on our team until you'd received photos of
all of our creations, which you could then plan around and devise plans of
destruction and oh my how I tremble at the thought.
Maybe we should make the back-room deal first!
Anyway, if you don't have any stated preference by the end of the day, we'll
assign you randomly to one team or the other. Last chance to have a say in your
own destiny here ;)
-s
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[taps playing in the background, with a strangely reggae beat]
In light of some recent events, there has been some team upheaval. Travis,
fearing the foregone conclusion of the BubbleBrick Crisis game, will not be able
to make it.
[taps fades to the sound of peaceful nightime crickets]
The teams now stand at:
Team Distasteful:
Joe "BellySticker" Comeau
Dan "BrainBiter" Boger
Team Gorgeous:
Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
Jenn "Bloodlust" Boger
Shaun "ToeStubber" Sullivan
Wayne "FleshRender" McCaul
The ADP Police (aka The Fuzz):
Jonathan "FireLicker" Dallas
Reinforcements as needed:
Dave "Crotchsmasher" Eaton (when he comes 'round the mountain)
As has been pointed out, there is a slight imbalance in the teams. The toss-up
is between Wayne and Jorge for defection from Team Stellar to Team Droolcup.
Although Wayne keeps sending me e-mails with lots of idol-worship and i's dotted
with little hearts, I'm proposing that Wayne join the other team as a *villian*,
based primarily on the following:
"I guess it doesn't matter what team I'm on. I'm more inclined for wholesale
destruction, but considering I'm probably going to have to steal my tactical
ideas beyond that maxim, I could be a real albatross to the team."
Any objections? Or is Wayne's undying devotion to me be matched only by Jorge's
ongoing disgust with me, such that Jorge should turn over a new .. coat ... umm,
whatever.
So, the prosposed new teams are:
Team Vomitus:
Joe "BellyButton" Comeau
Dan "BrainJelly" Boger
Wayne "FleshFlapper" McCaul
Team Transcendent:
Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
Jenn "Bloodlust" Boger
Shaun "GulletMuncher" Sullivan
The ADP Police (aka The Fuzz):
Jonathan "FireLicker" Dallas
Reinforcements as needed:
Dave "CrotchSmasher" Eaton (when he comes 'round the mountain)
Thoughts? Feelings? Reactions?
-s
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
>
> The Masses (aka Civilian Cannon Fodder):
> To be controlled in conjunction with a fun little random-esque algorithm being
> developed. Both sides will have partial control of said civvies, much like
> sheep in a long-past medieval game.
This post is being crossposted to .gaming.brikwars, for the purposes of
discussing quasi-random civilian actions.
Our upcoming BubbleGum Crisis Themed TL6 battle takes place in an urban
environment, meaning there will be lots of room for dodging, hiding, creeping,
crawling, and so on and so forth. When the game starts, there will be a
(large?) number of civilians throughout the layout, going about their
civilian-esque lives. Walking, talking on the phone, sitting in the office,
buying groeries, etc.
One team of combatants are villians. They don't mind killing civilians. They
enjoy killing vigiliantes. And they don't care about killing police.
Another team of combatants are vigilantes. They don't mind killing villians,
but they are loathe to kill civilians and police.
A last combatant is the police. They are comfortable and psyched to kill
vigiliantes and villians, but never civilians.
So, how to incorporate civilians into the game? Who controls them?
Her's the proposal:
At the start of each team's turn, they roll 1d6 and 1d4-1. The 1d6 roll
represents the number of civilians they can move. And they can basically do
anything with them:
Villians will probably have the civilians run haphazardly into the lines of
vigilante fire, creating human shields. Perhaps they'll have civilians jump off
skyscrapers in terror. They might even find a gun somewhere, and shoot at the
vigilantes (think Harry Osborne - a civilian who hates Spider-Man - see, it
works!)
Vigilantes may have the civilians get in between the police and them, knowing
the police won't shoot through civilians. Or they might have them flee out of
the way. Or pick up a gun and start shooting at the villians.
The police probably want the civilians running into safe, out-of-the-way areas.
Perhaps picking up guns and firing at vigilantes and villians, but primarily,
keeping them safe and sound.
NOW, here's the fun part. The second roll, the 1d4-1 roll, represents the
number of civilians you maintain *sole* control of for the rest of the turn.
That is, even when the next team rolls to move civilians, they cannot control
one that you've designated as "locked out". This minimizes the "spastic
jitter", wherein two teams alternate having the same civilian run into a
building and out of a building over and over. It allows a civilian to do
multi-turn tasks ... move into a store, grab a gun off the wall, and bring it
outside to shoot - as long as the team controlling the civvie designates him as
one that no-one else can control.
(An easy way to designate is to have a colored 1x1 plate stuck on the back of
the leg - a different color for each team)
Ones that aren't "locked out" can be taken over and controlled by the other
teams.
In general, here are some of the effects:
(1) There will be about 2x as many "good" civilians as there are evil
civilians. That is, the police and vigilante civilians will eb twice as
numerous as the villianous, miscreant civilians. This seems a good ratio.
(2) Some civilians could conceivably run incredible distances very quickly -
for example, a civilian who is controlled by one team to run, but not "locked
out". And then controlled by the next team, but not "locked out". And lastly,
controlled by the last team. Of course, they'd probably have different agendas,
so the total travel would probably not be in the same direction. But even so,
cumulative movement can be attributed to super-panic.
(3) When civilians start become fewer and farther between, as their ranks are
thinned out, nobody is guaranteed a monopoly on the remaining units. There is
always the possibility of rolling a "1" on the lockout roll, meaning that no
units can be locked out, essentially giving control back to the other team.
(4) Civilians who swap sides and activities are undergoing severe emotional
stress in the combat environment. They are FREAKING OUT. That's funny.
(5) If your lockout roll is higher than your quantity roll, then you can
"lockout" civilians without moving or controlling them. These ones are frozen
in terror, since the opponent cannot move them either.
If your quantity roll is higher than the number of civilians left who can be
moved (those being ones who are alive and unlocked), tough beans ... you can
only move up to the maximum available civilians. Consider yourself lucky to
have even that, you worthless sack of megabloks.
Of course, depending on the number of civilians, these die rolls can be
increased. 2d6 and 1d6-1, for example. 1d20 and 1d12-1. This patent proposal
is for the methodology of the "Quantity Roll" and the "Lockout Roll" - clearly
other variations on the theme are possible.
So ... what do people think? Suggestions? Comments? Loopholes? I think this
could be a really fun addition to a game, where the environment is suddenly more
of a contributor to the events. Plus, the small dice rolls proposed above (1d6,
1d4-1) will keep turn durations down.
-s
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"Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
news:HKyGp4.Hvu@lugnet.com...
> [taps playing in the background, with a strangely reggae beat]
>
>
> So, the prosposed new teams are:
>
> Team Vomitus:
> Joe "BellyButton" Comeau
> Dan "BrainJelly" Boger
> Wayne "FleshFlapper" McCaul
>
> Team Transcendent:
> Jorge "GroinKicker" Fernandez
> Jenn "Bloodlust" Boger
> Shaun "GulletMuncher" Sullivan
>
> The ADP Police (aka The Fuzz):
> Jonathan "FireLicker" Dallas
>
> Reinforcements as needed:
> Dave "CrotchSmasher" Eaton (when he comes 'round the mountain)
The teams look good, but what do you mean 'reinforcements as needed' for
Dave? I thought he was on the villain team? While he will be a late
arrival (and I suppose may not be able to show at all), I thought that was
the plan. Maybe I missed something.
- Joe
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> >
> > The Masses (aka Civilian Cannon Fodder):
> > To be controlled in conjunction with a fun little random-esque algorithm
Snip
I absolutely love the idea. It gives you better a control of the civilians than
their medieval counterpart, but doesn't give you absolute control of them.
Very flexible, and better yet, the potential for comic outburst is astronomical:
[first team] old lady drops her grocery bag and pulls a Smith and Wesson 357
Magnum out from her purse and starts shooting at <insert target here>. She
misses her shot.
[next team, bad guys of course] old lady realizes she's such a bad marksman that
decides to blow her head off <Kodak moment>. Her brain is now part of the
adjacent wall.
Something tells me that the bad guys are going to have a lot of fun in this
game.
I believe you are covering all the bases. Excellent idea.
J.-
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"Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
news:HKyI9x.uCp@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
>
> So ... what do people think? Suggestions? Comments? Loopholes? I think • this
> could be a really fun addition to a game, where the environment is • suddenly more
> of a contributor to the events. Plus, the small dice rolls proposed above • (1d6,
> 1d4-1) will keep turn durations down.
I like the idea! Although I have my suspicions on how quickly it will move,
since we are talking about a *team* deciding what to do with 1d6 many
civvies and then the agonizing decision over which one(s) to lock down for
the turn. It seems the actual number of rolls has little to do with our
turn durations :)
- Joe
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Joe Comeau wrote:
> >
> > Reinforcements as needed:
> > Dave "CrotchSmasher" Eaton (when he comes 'round the mountain)
>
> The teams look good, but what do you mean 'reinforcements as needed' for
> Dave? I thought he was on the villain team? While he will be a late
> arrival (and I suppose may not be able to show at all), I thought that was
> the plan. Maybe I missed something.
Yeah, Dave is bad.
As an (important!) aside: how shall we handle Heroes?
Technically, there's only to be one for every 7 standard troops on a team. Some
possibilities:
(1) Strict ruling - only 1 hero for every 7 troops on a team (note: not per
player). So if your team only has 6 troops ... sucks, eh? In order to ger
three heroes on your team, you need to have 21 regular troopers.
(2) Slightly looser - only 1 hero for every 7 troops on your team, rounding up.
That is, 1 trooper gets you 1 hero, 8 troopers get you 2 heroes ... in order to
get three heroes on your team, you need to have 15 regular troopers.
(3) Incontinentally Lax - same as number (2), but applied to each player. So
if you have 1 trooper, you can have 1 hero, and the same applies for your
teammates. Your team might consist of 3 troopers, 3 heroes!
Obviously, this is more important this game, since the budgets are so low!
I'm leaning towards 1, since it's just *so* uptight! I could also stomach #2,
though #3 is probably too loosey-goosey, even for the likes of ole' Painted
Armor.
Votes?
-s
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On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 04:18:45PM +0000, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> I'm leaning towards 1, since it's just *so* uptight! I could also
> stomach #2, though #3 is probably too loosey-goosey, even for the
> likes of ole' Painted Armor.
I'd say go with the strict (#1), and enjoy the pain! :)
--
Dan Boger
dan@peeron.com
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Yeah, I second the motion. #1
-E"FR"W
In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Dan Boger wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 04:18:45PM +0000, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> > I'm leaning towards 1, since it's just *so* uptight! I could also
> > stomach #2, though #3 is probably too loosey-goosey, even for the
> > likes of ole' Painted Armor.
>
> I'd say go with the strict (#1), and enjoy the pain! :)
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> Yeah, Dave is bad.
Me bad?
> As an (important!) aside: how shall we handle Heroes?
>
> Technically, there's only to be one for every 7 standard troops on a team.
> Some possibilities:
>
> (1) Strict ruling - only 1 hero for every 7 troops on a team (note: not per
> player). So if your team only has 6 troops ... sucks, eh? In order to ger
> three heroes on your team, you need to have 21 regular troopers.
>
> (2) Slightly looser - only 1 hero for every 7 troops on your team, rounding
> up. That is, 1 trooper gets you 1 hero, 8 troopers get you 2 heroes ... in
> order to get three heroes on your team, you need to have 15 regular troopers.
>
> (3) Incontinentally Lax - same as number (2), but applied to each player.
> So if you have 1 trooper, you can have 1 hero, and the same applies for your
> teammates. Your team might consist of 3 troopers, 3 heroes!
>
> Obviously, this is more important this game, since the budgets are so low!
>
> I'm leaning towards 1, since it's just *so* uptight! I could also stomach
> #2, though #3 is probably too loosey-goosey, even for the likes of ole'
> Painted Armor.
>
> Votes?
I vote #1. But here's another one I may have missed: What's the deal with
champions? The limit is (IIRC) 1 per team, which means your team could legally
consist of 1 uber-powerful champion and his/her battlemech.
On the other hand, Hero's? Hero's shouldn't be particularly valuable in this
game. I mean, sure they look neat and all, but short of the stupendous feat, all
they have is the ability to coordinate troops for combined fire-- and that's
already dealt with since the HP rules are in place. IE it won't matter if you
combine fire on some unit because each hit is counted against the total HP
anyway, so you'll *always* be combined firing, even spanning multiple turns.
And... really... disregarding the fact that only Elite units can have stupendous
feats, you could turn a regular trooper INTO a hero for only 1 point more than
the hero would cost (actually, he'd be *slightly* better than a hero, by +0.5
AV). Champions? Hmm... Making a trooper into a champion actually SAVES you 3 CP,
and you still end up with a slightly better unit. Again disregarding the fact
that only already Elite units can have stupendous feats tacked on.
Anyway, the anorak inside me says stick with rule #1. But I could also be talked
into 1.5:
(1.5) One hero per every 7 troops, rounded normally. 8 troops means you get 1
hero, and then you've got 1 trooper surplus, which, rounded to the nearest 7
means you get no more heros. 11 troops means you've got 4 troops surplus, which
rounds up to the nearest 7, so you'd get 2 heros:
0-3 troops = 0 heros
4-10 troops = 1 hero
11-17 troops = 2 heros
etc.
But regardless, I'd probably opt for #1 just to be safe.
DaveE
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
>
> (1) Strict ruling - only 1 hero for every 7 troops on a team (note: not per
> player). So if your team only has 6 troops ... sucks, eh? In order to ger
> three heroes on your team, you need to have 21 regular troopers.
>
> (2) Slightly looser - only 1 hero for every 7 troops on your team, rounding up.
> That is, 1 trooper gets you 1 hero, 8 troopers get you 2 heroes ... in order to
> get three heroes on your team, you need to have 15 regular troopers.
>
> (3) Incontinentally Lax - same as number (2), but applied to each player. So
> if you have 1 trooper, you can have 1 hero, and the same applies for your
> teammates. Your team might consist of 3 troopers, 3 heroes!
I will lean towards the "Anorak Retentive" 1, since we have such a limited
amount of CP it seems a better choice.
J.-
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"David Eaton" <deaton@intdata.com> wrote in message
news:HL27Bo.1vAy@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
> I vote #1. But here's another one I may have missed: What's the deal with
> champions? The limit is (IIRC) 1 per team, which means your team could • legally
> consist of 1 uber-powerful champion and his/her battlemech.
Right on, brother!
> On the other hand, Hero's? Hero's shouldn't be particularly valuable in • this
> game. I mean, sure they look neat and all, but short of the stupendous • feat, all
> they have is the ability to coordinate troops for combined fire-- and • that's
> already dealt with since the HP rules are in place. IE it won't matter if • you
> combine fire on some unit because each hit is counted against the total HP
> anyway, so you'll *always* be combined firing, even spanning multiple
turns.
Oh so true.
> And... really... disregarding the fact that only Elite units can have • stupendous
> feats, you could turn a regular trooper INTO a hero for only 1 point more • than
> the hero would cost (actually, he'd be *slightly* better than a hero, by • +0.5
> AV). Champions? Hmm... Making a trooper into a champion actually SAVES you • 3 CP,
> and you still end up with a slightly better unit. Again disregarding the • fact
> that only already Elite units can have stupendous feats tacked on.
>
> Anyway, the anorak inside me says stick with rule #1. But I could also be • talked
> into 1.5:
>
> (1.5) One hero per every 7 troops, rounded normally. 8 troops means you • get 1
> hero, and then you've got 1 trooper surplus, which, rounded to the nearest • 7
> means you get no more heros. 11 troops means you've got 4 troops surplus, • which
> rounds up to the nearest 7, so you'd get 2 heros:
> 0-3 troops = 0 heros
> 4-10 troops = 1 hero
> 11-17 troops = 2 heros
> etc.
>
> But regardless, I'd probably opt for #1 just to be safe.
So are we saying that a stupendous feat constitutes a hero?
- Joe
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The masses have spoken:
-> One Champion per team
-> Uber-Strict Hero allotment - 1 Hero for every 7 standard troopers, and not a
trooper less
-> A trooper with a stupendous feat is no trooper at all, but a hero (*swoon*
he’s so dreamy)
And so it was written in the scrolls.
-s
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"Shaun Sullivan" <shaun_sullivan@irco.com> wrote in message
news:HL2FKI.1CC5@lugnet.com...
> The masses have spoken:
>
> -> One Champion per team
>
> -> Uber-Strict Hero allotment - 1 Hero for every 7 standard troopers, and • not a
> trooper less
>
> -> A trooper with a stupendous feat is no trooper at all, but a hero • (*swoon*
> he's so {dreamy})
>
> And so it was written in the scrolls.
So I'll repeat my question: does a stupendous feat constitute a hero?
- Joe
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> > -> A trooper with a stupendous feat is no trooper at all, but a hero • (*swoon*
> > he's so {dreamy})
Hmmm, how'd you modify your previous post ;)
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