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  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) It's not a historical oddity in Europe, where several companies are still producing incredible stuff and among scratch builders it's still populair because of the high degree of detailling compared to N vs the smaller footprint of h0 (it's h0 (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) In the Netherlands we have 4-6 BIG shows (read over 20k visitors, from NW-Europe) every year, plus dozens smaller ones (between dozens and a few hundred attendees) by local clubs and such. (...) The new "high speed train" doesn't look like (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
As an Australian living in the UK I have to weigh in on this debate. (...) Nor do I. If I want realism I'll build it myself. If I want a nice Lego set, I don't care where it comes from (...) One thing I find is that American trains generally look (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Maybe you're thinking of these UP locos: (URL) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) I'm kinda with Larry on this one--rtlToronto, a new additoin to the train show experience, has been doing 3-4 shows per year for the past few years. I know that Calum wants to keep things 'euro' (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Fair cop. How big are train shows elsewhere though? How big is the market elsewhere? In Singapore, no one I talked to (small sample) had even heard of a train show! I suggest that there IS a market here, one worth trying to serve. The US (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Not like that. I'm having trouble with Google, it keeps returning pictures of LEGO trains for all the search terms I used, not particularly useful, so I don't have a pic cite for you, but trust me. (...) No, that's what you're saying I'm (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) And I don't either, I just think its great that Lego is still producing trains, especially ones based on real prototypes (although slightly more generic ones would be good too) However you mention that this set will strike a chord when seen at (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
Another well-balanced discussion evolving here I see... (...) Agreed, so far. (...) Er, perhaps that statement could be qualified a little. Maybe North American prototypes resonate with the American audiences that you tend to find attending American (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Yes, I'll agree that the US doesn't really do four wheel vehicles However I have never really thought of the Lego wheelsets as being European as they have coil springs when the style of suspension with W irons represented had/have leaf springs (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Well it would please the Daoist in me at least, if not the AdultFOL... Jason Railton (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) And what did 19th century American wheels look like? What you're saying is, it doesn't look like anything current. Jason R (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) American themed, European themed... at one level I don't care. Whatever LEGO produces, I (we) can do better(1). So any set is good, regardless of how it looks as a set, *IF* it has good parts. And I agree that this set looks like it will have (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) The question of Christian is revealing that the target audience for the TTX is clearly North American (initially desired by TLC or not). I mean european (non AFOL - the main part of TLC customers) audience don't know TTX, and have never seen a (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Practically every US stock car runs on Bettendorf trucks, which resemble this (that Ross created): (URL) The TLG trucks are designed to resemble more of the single axle type for European stock cars. JOHN (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) American trucks don't have wheel level individual springs. The individual wheels are typically unsprung, and ride in a truck frame that has springs either at the center beam (for freight) or at multiple places in a larger truck frame (for (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Brickshelf?(1) Seriously, I think OnDrew did a boxcar with a flag motif, that might be what you are thinking of. 1 - couldn't resist. (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) That's one interpretation. I'm not sure I agree, though. Another one is that it means NON transportation companies, that is, lessors and shippers. X is often appended to reporting marks(1) for equipment owned by NON transportation companies to (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
TLG made 30 years or so worth of Euro style trains, time for the Americans to get a little attention. This set rocks! Looks spot on for the real thing, rivet counters be damned. :) Must...buy...more...TRAINS!!!1 -Stefan- (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) I'll give you the buffers, but I don't see that the wheelsets are particularly European, in what way do you mean? Tim (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Yes, they were formerly know as "Trailer Train" (switching to TTX in 1991). The "X" is commonly used in the rail industry to indicate the word "transportation". HTH, JOHN (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) (for those that don't get the reference, TT is one of the "Classic" scales in Model Railroading, along with: - N 1:160 - HO 1:87 - S 1:64 - O 1:48 Out of those 5, it's probably the least popular or least well represented by manufacturers. In (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Please no! No more American proto....I'm sick of it. The Santa Fe and BNSF locomotives are cool, don't get me wrong. They're the most detailed and realistic Lego Trains ever made. They also represent a commitment to the train line beyond the (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) I was actually looking for a reefer (or even a boxcar or anything) with a big Stars and Stripes on the side, I'm sure I've seen one somewhere (might even have been a loco) Anyone know where to find it? And appologies for the above (slaps self (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Oh, please. Yeah, it is "American themed" all right-- with euro-style buffers and euro-style wheels. And didn't the last "American themed" loco (the BNSF) come with a brand new train element-- a modern, European buffer? I'll trade you. Let TLG (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) And here I was all set to start pushing for more European designs, but if you really want the reefer instead... :) Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liaison LEGO Community Team (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) "TTX Company provides railcars and related freight car management services to the North American rail industry." From (URL) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Its like 1:120 scale modeling, but with stronger frames and chunky tires Oh no, thats BMX ;-) Tim (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) This one (URL) ? ;-) Tim (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)  
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Call me ignorant, but what the heck is this "TTX", anyway? A kind of track gauge? Wondering, Christian Treczoks (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Wow! Great! Another American themed addition to trains. That should go down well with all those USofAFOLs. Let's put some flags out to celebrate. British flag, no, French, German, no good. Oh, no, that one's Australian... European... Oh (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Hey you leave Bomonga out of this! I am just waiting on a set like (URL) this> to come out ;) But ya, trains are ok as long as they are in a nice town layout! The other Mark (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Hey now, don't begrudge us our measily few train sets... not with all the Toa Lhikan Kikanalo Gaaki Rahaga Pouks Kualus Norik Bomonga Iruini Vakama Nokama Hordika Whenua Onewa Matau Nuju Rhotuka Panrahk Lerahk Guurahk Vorahk Turahk Vhisola (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)  
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) I don't know how long this will last or if the offer has expired. Someone from the Gateway Lego Users Group noticed this offer and sent the following info out on the group list. --- In GtwLug... Blackrock <blackrock@y...> wrote: (...) (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Hey look! Another train! Who would have ever guessed?!? ;) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)  
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Can you give any more details about this bulk track purchase thing you mentioned? Rafe (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Agreed. The more rolling stock, the better. I was at a train store the other day and marvelled at the literally hundreds of cars available in different gauges. More L gauge stuff is only good. Thanks Jake and all who helped put this together. (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
Ok... the set is very cool looking. Great work LEGO®. However, I do think the set needs at least one or two train minifigs with TTX or BNSF logo stickers or even printed on the minifigs. The reasons is I am thinking is... 1) There are LEGO fans who (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  I LOVE the new 10170...
 
Even though I am a committed 8 wider, I love this new container car (and the BNSF which preceded it). This set (and the newer BNSF) actually creates in me a dilemma. On the one hand, I want to show off my building prowess by constructing 8 wide (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Cute set, but I question the 'play value'. No minifig, nothing to put *into* the containers, no crane to load and unload them -- it's just something to go around the track. A bit juniorized for us die-hard Train heads, but I think the average (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
Thanks Jake! This is a great looking set, especially needed for a Monday. And this, after finding out there is now a discount on bulk track purchases in one of the online catalogs! And, yes, I am willing to be counted as a sucker. Considering all (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) This was something that caught me off-guard at Celebration III in Indy. Certainly 99.9% of the folks there were Star Wars fans, yet the LEGO booth was hopping, selling product like crazy. The ISD sold out - they were taking orders to be (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Thanks for the announcement and ILTCO pictures Mike! We were just discussing the lack of new trains this year at our RichLug meeting on Saturday. Low and behold a new Intermodal Double-Stack Car!!! Now I've got a reason to scan S&H weekly for (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Mark, the reason I took this personally is because I was one of the people making this decision. I know it sometimes seems like the LEGO Group is some big, cold, floating entity in the sky, but it's a group of people just like any community. (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
<snip> (...) Marc, I think maybe you need to understand the sheer expense involved in setting up a production line specifically for parts not currently in stock. I know of one example where some basic bricks and plates were needed in a slightly (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) I too was admiring the clear bricks--I thought I saw a clear 1 x 8 technic brick! clear technic bricks!! Imagine the go-cart I could make then!! (URL) K -who is looking forward to purchasing a few of these container cars to add to the layout (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.publish.photography, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Jake, I wish you hadn't turned this into a personal issue when it is a corporate policy issue. Do you see the words "Jake McKee" anywhere in my post? Now the "rally round Jake" LUGNET defense mechanism has been activated, and anything I say (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) It's not the upfront money, it's the projected sales that determine whether a new mold is produced. Trains, while popular among AFOLs, just don't sell well among Lego's target market. I imagine that the projected sales for 10170 is at most (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.theory, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
What a pleasant way to start off Monday! I'm looking forward to this set. Aside from the set itself, what I find interesting is the technique used in the photography. Check out the clear bricks used for supporting the freight bodies... (URL) the (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.publish.photography, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Me too! I will do anything in my power to make this new set a succes. I hope my wife will let me buy several... /\/\ark "I have two BNSFs, so I'll need a lot of cars" de Kock (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) I think the problem is the verbiage in the legofan.org article mentioning "our current finanancial state". The explanation in the ILTCO article is much better, IMO. Steve (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
Dear Jake, Please don't take these sorts of email too seriously. I won't speak for anyone else but at least one of us AFOLs wholly supports this communication and, for that matter, the release itself. Thank you very much for all the work, time and (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) These are nice - I'll definitely be buying a set or two. I think the ends of the cars need a little work, too many studs for my liking and the narrowness there bothers me a bit. Also, the containers seem a little off, but hey, that's what's (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Mark, please please don't take my desire to break down the wall and share information with the community as "excuses" or dishonesty. (...) Things aren't as simple as that. New parts, more than ever before, are designed in a wholistic mindset. (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Sure, would have been nice, I guess, but I'm more understanding than some (or, to the cynics and naysayers out there, a bigger sucker). I'll be buying a few just for the TTX stickers though, there are a LOT of TTX car types out there... (...) (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) Thanks for the news and pics, Mike. These look nice & beefy. Looking forward to the yellow ladders and 1x2x2 yellow thin walls. Glad to see that TLC is still able to reach out to train fans with the current state of business. And, glad they (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) I wouldn't be buying this set anyway, but I'm really getting tired of TLC's excuses to AFOLs. "New molds cost too much" was the old refrain, but now it's "an inability to produce new colors of those parts in our current financial state". Where (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
(...) I'm pretty disappointed with those containers. I'd have expected them to use the recessed doors they've used in the past. I do like that the cars are built up, though, rather than single pieces. Jeff (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
 
"Mike Walsh" <mike_walsh@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:IFv07D.trJ@lugnet.com... (...) new (...) more (...) The piece count and exact release date were not available when this information was published but will be updated once LEGO provides (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Sneak preview *NEW* LEGO® Train set #10170
 
Coming soon!LEGO set 10170 TTX Double Stack Intermodal Car. oops! I forgot the 'http' (...) (URL) (...) -Abner (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Sneak preview *NEW* LEGO® Train set #10170
 
Hey LEGO® Train fans are you looking for something new to add to you're LEGO train collection. Coming soon! This summer a new LEGO set 10170 TTX Double Stack Intermodal Car. General set price information : USD 39.99, Euro 39,99 and £26,99 DKK 320 (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Slug Photos
 
G'Day I had made the little switcher and matching slug: (URL) not match any real prototype and was made free form starting with the cab piece i had. Cheers Oliver Play Well! "Steve Chapple" <LEGOArches@yahoo.com> wrote in message (...) (19 years ago, 28-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Slug Photos
 
(...) In the UK, we used to have the class 13 which was a 'cow and calf' type arrangement built from 2 class 08 shunters, one with cab removed. IIRC this was in service until the mid 80s exclusively for shunting at Tinsley yard We also have Diesel (...) (19 years ago, 27-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Curatorship of lugnet.trains
 
(...) I think that would be a good Idea. You would have to make sure you give the person time to post it themselfs. I know it takes time to get the images online then write a post about it. Maybe you could also to a most recent train stuff from MOC (...) (19 years ago, 26-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: lgauge.com update
 
(...) Tim, depending on the decoder modual you buy, you can do a great deal with the light outputs. The output is usually open collector DC, with mutiple outputs having a common positive node. Most decoders, and all current production units have the (...) (19 years ago, 26-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Slug Photos
 
(...) The low bonnet, hoods in the US, are for better visability. But enough is retained for houseing some control systems and structural integrety, and even dynamic brakes. Not to mention storing of wieght and a place to paint a RR's name on. 8) (...) (19 years ago, 26-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: lgauge.com update
 
(...) I printed out your DCC page to read in bed and found it inspiring. I'm still in two minds whether I: A) need DCC, I've not got many trains I'm happy with yet B) go for LDCC or a proprietary system. The LDCC route actually has a cheaper (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Curatorship of lugnet.trains
 
(...) Thanks to Lar for taking me on, I think he's set a good standard to meet so far so I'll do my best. And yes, send me suggestions! I'd like to try and update a bit more often than recently (Not critising Lar, I know he works very hard but he (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Slug Photos
 
(...) That interesting, I'd assumed looking at the picture that it was a cow and calf but I did wonder why the bonnet was so low. I have heard both terms before but not made the destinction between them I've not come across anything like this (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Slug Photos
 
(...) That's correct. A slug is an engine that's had the cab and motors removed, and often the fuel tanks as well. Sometines tha tank is retained and filled with ballist. This was common with older engines such as a GP9 or GP15. Either way, extra (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Curatorship of lugnet.trains
 
(...) Tim David has very kindly agreed to assist with this, please show him every courtesy as he gets his feet wet. I'm sure he'd appreciate content suggestions mailed to him, you can find his address at the bottom of the sidebar (where he added (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  rtlToronto Train Show Pics from the April Train Show (and few comments)
 
(URL) the pics fit to print! It was a wonderful time with very little by way of catastrophe. K, part of the bridge fell out of Dereks' car when we were loading, but honest, I was just in the general vicinity... Thanks go out to Calum, Derek, Jeff (...) (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.general, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Slug Photos
 
(...) power on its own. It is powered from the lead loco. The effect is greater traction and power but less generation. They are seen a lot in switching yards but not as much on long hauls. Mike (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Curatorship of lugnet.trains
 
If you're interested in being a co-curator of the lugnet.trains hierarchy please drop me a line. Thanks. (19 years ago, 25-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto Train Show April 24th, 2005
 
(...) Well, setting up went as smooth as one could possibly expect, considering the bad weather and long lineups. Anyway, a reminder that if you're in the GTA tomorrow, come on over to the International Centre and have a boo at the layout. I've put (...) (19 years ago, 24-Apr-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.general, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Slug Photos
 
(...) I heard they are not as popular now because the savings aren't worth the loss in flexibility (just like cabless locos aren't as common either any more). (19 years ago, 23-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Slug Photos
 
Back a few years ago I was talking trains with someone here ( I forget his name) about the "slugs" we have up here. I had thought them common since their function seems logical to me and I see them in use around me, but he said these (...) (19 years ago, 23-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: More obscure diesel variants (BoCo)
 
(...) Not a real one, but (in a shameless self-plug) my model of one won a prize at Hull model railway show last November. Here it has red buffer beams, like the illustrations of BoCo in the Awdry books: (URL) For the official prize photo I changed (...) (19 years ago, 22-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: More obscure diesel variants (Was Re: BNSF new paint)
 
(...) Actually, I tend to think that it was more along the lines of the original 1950 plan- try everyting, and see what works and what doesn't work. Just because the FT was great in NA did not mean that it was going to be the best way to dieselize (...) (19 years ago, 22-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: New MOC - Class 08 Shunter with on-board uncoupling device
 
(...) [snip] (...) the side at first. Well, done! Chris (19 years ago, 21-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  More obscure diesel variants (Was Re: BNSF new paint)
 
Mark's (URL) mention> of the Fell led me to look it up. It seems needlessly complicated and basically the result of trying to prove a mistaken point (that mechanical transmission could be as good or better than electrical) (URL) If you're (...) (19 years ago, 21-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Non-steam Engines with Spoked Wheels
 
(...) I'd like to see a Fell, I have a soft spot for it. Mind you you'd have to design it so it kept going wrong! Tim (19 years ago, 21-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote: Thanks you guys! (...) Oh yeah, we (URL) have> those :-) Lots of them :-d Legoswami (19 years ago, 21-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  an American 4-4-0 steam locomotive
 
It is not perfect, I want to get some Big Ben Bricks wheels and make another one some time. This is a shot of the rear of the cab, showing Engineer Max at the controls (URL) can also see the shovel for shoveling coal into the boiler This is a view (...) (19 years ago, 21-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  New trains and updated pages
 
Hi, I just finished updating some of my pages. More updates are needed, but these will have to do for now. I was surprised by the amount of time required to get these updates done. During the past year I have been super sizing my Super Chief. The (...) (19 years ago, 21-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Non-steam Engines with Spoked Wheels
 
(...) A few more British non-steam engines that use spoked wheels: GT3 (1961), a 2700hp gas turbine engine designed to look like a 4-6-0 steam engine. (URL) 10100 (1950), the "Fell" locomotive, 4-8-4/2D2, later 4-4-4-4. This loco had 4 engines, 2 in (...) (19 years ago, 20-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
And of course pretty much all fixed wheelbase shunter/switchers! Tim (19 years ago, 20-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
(...) Hmm, perhaps I should take note of your point below! The only one I can think of off the top of my head is the (URL) BR class 74 electro-diesel> (1) which is a bit of a cheat as they are really electrics with a small diesel generator for (...) (19 years ago, 20-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
(...) Well, I have not done any math, and it seems clear that LEGO train wheels are somewhat undersized. Nonetheless I haven't noticed an aesthetic issue. Here is why I think that is the case. Unless you take apart your wheels, the shape of the (...) (19 years ago, 20-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
(...) Eeeps! Missed out opportunity for shameless self-plug! :-o (...) I was wondering about that when I had that discussion with ROSCO. Neither of us could think of such a proto, although I know plenty of electrics have the spoked wheels. Care to (...) (19 years ago, 20-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
(...) You are correct AFAIK:-D Hey, Tim, check (URL) THIS> out! HTH;-) JOHN (19 years ago, 20-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
(...) If I recall correctly, it means 'if I recall correctly' Jon (19 years ago, 19-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
(...) In most of my engines I use wheels that do the functional job, leaving the aesthetics to the facias on the bogies. The Peak is a good example: (URL) Each bogie has 4 wheelsets, the middle 2 being the motor, the inner ones a 9V wheelset and the (...) (19 years ago, 19-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
(...) In the UK the track gauge is 1435mm +5mm -2mm, but never less than 1435mm at switches and crossings. The gauge is also slightly wider on curves than on straight track. On double track, the two tracks tilt slightly away from each other. Mark (19 years ago, 19-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  NELUG at April 2nd and 3rd Greenberg Show in Wilmington MA
 
Sorry for the late post but with the redesign of our Web site only going live yesterday I didn't want to have to do this twice and I chose to do it on our new site. Once again we had a great time. To see a short write-up, but more importantly photos (...) (19 years ago, 19-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
(...) I think you are thinking of [LEGOSet 1253-1] [LEGOSet 8654] is the set referred to in this post. (...) You forgot to mention your (URL) hidden power bogie design> which is equally as applicable a principle used with BBB wheels as 6 wheel (...) (19 years ago, 19-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
(...) The ferarri truck is six wide, IIRC. So an 8-wide car would look best IMO. (...) (This point has already been brought up by ROSCO at JLUG, but I'll say it again here.) The small BBB wheels would look good enough for disels/elctrics, although (...) (19 years ago, 19-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
(...) IIRC the Dutch railways has changed the gauge from 1435mm to 1433mm. I don't know about other countries. It is still refered to as 1435mm, but the actual gauge can be slightly different from place to place. Another detail that has changed over (...) (19 years ago, 18-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
(...) Tim/Lar/John thanks for the info. I suspected the wheels were undersized. Ignoring the track, I'm curious now which ratio is more prototypical: LEGO wheel-diameter to 6-wide locomotive/rolling-stock or LEGO wheel-diameter to 8-wide? I guess (...) (19 years ago, 18-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Question on Train Wheel Diameter, Minifig Scale
 
(...) No, standard gauge is 4' 8 1/2" in the UK and everywhere else in the world as well. (1)(2) Places such as Russia or Ireland(3) which have broad gauge as their main gauge might argue that that their's is 'standard' but thats more question of (...) (19 years ago, 18-Apr-05, to lugnet.trains)


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