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Re: Lets keep politics out of Lego
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Date: 
Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:35:24 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott and Larry write:
> 
> > > > Go back. Read my posts. Answer my points.... as I have asked repeatedly.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, I am not going to answer each and every one of your snipes in detail.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > > Pick one point, one thought, one item that you'd like to have a
> > > debate about
> > 
> > Nope. I've done it already... go back and read my posts.
> 
> This is great!
> 
>   "You say something and I'll pay attention and we'll talk about it."
>   "No, you"
>   "No, you"
> etc...
> 
> The basic fact is that you're both right.  Since I largely agree with Larry's
> beliefs it makes if easier for me to empathize with his side, but he pretty
> clearly does squirm instead of answering when it suits him.  But Scott, for
> _you_ of all people to call him on it is ridiculous.

I find it ridiculous that Larry asked me to raise specific question so he
can clarify his thinking - but he then refuses to answer me. To a certain
extent, cherry picking questions one wishes to answer is part of a debate.
Refusing to answer specific points is not part of debating, being unable to
answer a specific point is.


> 
> Since you both know that neither of you is willing to engage in productive
> discourse (with each other, at least), why not just shut the heck up?

> 
> Unless this is productive.
> 
> As I see it, you both basically (and most of the rest of us for that matter)
> spout our ideas and opinions that seem obviously true.  (e.g. I am at a loss as
> to how to show that centrally planned economy delivers worse and less efficient
> services to the stakeholders than does a free market, because it is so
> obvious.)  So whether I'm telling John that he ought to lighten up on his kids,
> or I'm telling Scott that government ought to lighten up on us, I am equally
> certain, and in neither case will I make a dent.  But we keep it up anyway.
> Why?
> 
> And why does the bickering between Scott the mindless liberal

I don't mind being call mindless, it is the liberal part I don't like :-)

> and Larry the
> mindless libertarian seem different than the rest of this possibly pointless
> discussion?  Maybe because we generally refrain from personal attacks and this
> pair seems to be edging in that direction?  I'm really not sure.

I try not to get "personal". If anyone views my comments as such, I can only
apologise.

Scott A



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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott and Larry write: (...) [snip] (...) This is great! "You say something and I'll pay attention and we'll talk about it." "No, you" "No, you" etc... The basic fact is that you're both right. Since I largely agree with (...) (26 years ago, 26-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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