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Re: Lets keep politics out of Lego
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Date: 
Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:35:24 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott and Larry write:

Go back. Read my posts. Answer my points.... as I have asked repeatedly.

Sorry, I am not going to answer each and every one of your snipes in detail.

[snip]

Pick one point, one thought, one item that you'd like to have a
debate about

Nope. I've done it already... go back and read my posts.

This is great!

  "You say something and I'll pay attention and we'll talk about it."
  "No, you"
  "No, you"
etc...

The basic fact is that you're both right.  Since I largely agree with Larry's
beliefs it makes if easier for me to empathize with his side, but he pretty
clearly does squirm instead of answering when it suits him.  But Scott, for
_you_ of all people to call him on it is ridiculous.

I find it ridiculous that Larry asked me to raise specific question so he
can clarify his thinking - but he then refuses to answer me. To a certain
extent, cherry picking questions one wishes to answer is part of a debate.
Refusing to answer specific points is not part of debating, being unable to
answer a specific point is.



Since you both know that neither of you is willing to engage in productive
discourse (with each other, at least), why not just shut the heck up?


Unless this is productive.

As I see it, you both basically (and most of the rest of us for that matter)
spout our ideas and opinions that seem obviously true.  (e.g. I am at a loss as
to how to show that centrally planned economy delivers worse and less efficient
services to the stakeholders than does a free market, because it is so
obvious.)  So whether I'm telling John that he ought to lighten up on his kids,
or I'm telling Scott that government ought to lighten up on us, I am equally
certain, and in neither case will I make a dent.  But we keep it up anyway.
Why?

And why does the bickering between Scott the mindless liberal

I don't mind being call mindless, it is the liberal part I don't like :-)

and Larry the
mindless libertarian seem different than the rest of this possibly pointless
discussion?  Maybe because we generally refrain from personal attacks and this
pair seems to be edging in that direction?  I'm really not sure.

I try not to get "personal". If anyone views my comments as such, I can only
apologise.

Scott A



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  Re: Lets keep politics out of Lego
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott and Larry write: (...) [snip] (...) This is great! "You say something and I'll pay attention and we'll talk about it." "No, you" "No, you" etc... The basic fact is that you're both right. Since I largely agree with (...) (24 years ago, 26-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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