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    Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
   There is this Girl I'd like to ask out but i don't have the courage(I'm a chicken:) to. Any suggestions? There's a catch to this also; I'm a freshman and she's, I think a junior Please send any suggestions straight to me at kyblue2@zoomnnet.net - (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
     (...) Take it from me (and personal) experience. At this age you don't _want_ to go out with older girls. She'll just break your heart - they all do. Then again, maybe she won't. Write a non-sappy non-love poem and ask her to read it. Some girls (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      (...) I've got a problem, I can't write poems, can you? (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
       (...) I forgot to mention this. It might not be important but, she is the daughter of one of my former teachers (5 and 6 grade) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
       (...) Ah, the most dangerous kind. I dated my Latin teacher's daughter in high school. Everyone thought we made the perfect couple - the classical twins they called us. Ended badly, as all young romances do. I'll tell you what I'll gladly tell my (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
      (...) I write a lot, yeah. But you don't want me to write one for you, you want to do it yourself. And you _can_ write poetry. Everyone can. Poetry doesn't have to rhyme, have perfect meter, or anything else, it just has to come from your muse, and (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      (...) Here's the only poem I know: Roses are red and violets are blue and I love you. I think that's how it goes (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
      (...) :) I said non-love poem, remember. :) How close are you to your English teacher? Do you have a Creative Writing teacher in your school? We did, and I took it as an elective all 4 years in high school. Find someone like that and talk to them, (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      (...) goes (...) I remember, I HATE writing I suck at it also. I remember having to write poems last year in 8th grade. (...) started High School Do you have a Creative Writing teacher in your school? I think so We did, and I took it as an (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      I could do a sercret admire thing but I wouldn't know how to end it. (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
      (...) Nope, not a good idea. (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      (...) I could just write her a note and ask her out. Sound good or not? (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
       (...) Hrmmm... if you're going to just ask her out, I'd just ASK her out. Asking in a note seems ... childish. I'm picturing "Do you like me, check Yes or No" (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Selçuk Göre
       Ryan Smith wrote in message ... (...) Note?..How old are you?..:-) Anyway, you are living in America and your age is over 15 right? It shouldn't be that much diffucult. Go on and talk with her...About anything...try to find out common points and If (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      . Write a non-sappy non-love poem and (...) Could you give me a starting line? and How am I going to drop it off to her if I can ever think of one? (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —John Neal
       (...) Unless you want to discuss why this thread should not continue here anymore, I suggest you take Todd's subtle hint and post to .people. <hint, hint> Or, more plainly, this isn't Love Line, it's .debate. Call Adam and Dr. Drew, but don't post (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      Write a non-sappy non-love poem Oh great, I just realized something, I can only write about committing suicide in the 6 grade. That doesn't make a good poem (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
      (...) This is at least the second time you've mentioned these thoughts of suicide in the 6th grade. So first, let me urge you, if you still have thoughts like that - talk to someone - someone IN PERSON about them. Second, you're not unique in having (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
     (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Somebody help. —Todd Lehman
     (...) Interesting question! Y'know what? This would actually be perfectly appropriate in the new lugnet.people newsgroup (created 18 Sep 1999)... :-) CHARTER/PURPOSE: lugnet.people (group): All about LEGO® people (enthusiasts, fans, maniacs, (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)
   
        Re: Somebody help. —Jodi Neal
     Well, here's some insite from a woman. If there is a mall with a movie theater in your town, and a movie presently showing there that is a light comedy, just go up to her in the hall and ask if she would like to see with you. Something like... Hi, (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —John Neal
       (...) All seriousness aside, I think you ought to ask her if she wants to check out your LEGO collection! Uh, what was the question again? Wasn't it how to remain geeky and single your whole life? No? Oh.... nevermind. [1] -John [1] a la Emily (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      (...) Sorry guys, I ain't geeky (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Stephen Jacquot
      (...) Consider organizing a mixed group to do the same thing. Makes it less of a date, and more just guys hanging out, therefore less threatening to all involved, and less potential for disaster. If you and this girl hit it off, then you can worry (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
      (...) Definitely. These things work too, just make sure you stack the deck in you favor. And be open to the idea that you might just end up liking one of the other girls more once you see them all out in a non-school environment. :) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      (...) theater (...) at (...) afterwards (...) Like I said I'm a chicken, oh by the way, there are no curfews in my town(yet:) There are two malls, well, one is in a minimall and the other just sits alone on the opposite side of the highway across (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      a light comedy A light comedy? You're crazy. If it was going to be comedy I'd try to see South Park Bigger Longer & Uncut but it's not out anymore:( (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —John Neal
       (...) Hey Ryan, you sound like a real prize. I can tell you have a great future ahead of you relating to women. Now why don't you pack up your little pubescent Q&A and go back to RTL like a good boy, or at the least .people. Your inane blathering (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Simon Robinson
       John, what's your problem? I'd agree it's rather unfortunate that Ryan hasn't responded to the gentle suggestions that .people would be a better place to discuss this. But to say (...) is - well - words fail me - do you _really_ mean that? Wanting (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Somebody help. —John Neal
        (...) Well, I guess I was a little harsh, but I would say that soliticing advice about relationships from a group of strangers [1] on the net is dubious at best. Seems to me this is what fleshy friends are for. At worst I would deem it a pernicious (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
         [SNIP] Now I remember why I was wanting to commit suicide in the 6th grade. One of these post brought it back but I can't remember which one and I wouldn't say which one either if I remembered which one it was. (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
       
            Re: Somebody help. —Matthew Miller
        (...) Ouch. I hope you're feeling better about the world these days. I remember sixth grade as being a difficult time for me too. But now I'm old and wise (aka 24) and things are turning out very happily. So trust me: there's hope. (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
       
            Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
        (...) I slipped on a puddle of water on the way back to class after lunch and broke my two front teeth out (permanent teeth, too, not baby teeth) and bled all over the place. Ruined a perfectly good t-shirt, which, in my shocked state, was all I (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
      
           Re: Somebody help. —Christopher L. Weeks
        (...) I think Fleshy Friends(tm) is what he's trying to acquire. I've been assuming the second option listed above. If I were so geeky that I couldn't ask girls out (oh wait...I was :-) then I would certainly be too insecure to discuss how insecure (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Somebody help. —Jodi Neal
          (...) Now that's a great idea!!!!!! ;-) Jodi (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
        (...) Perhaps a virtual order from Harry's is in order? (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Somebody help. —John Neal
        All I do is give;-) Ryan, go here: (URL) rest is up to you. -John (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
        (...) I'm to much of a chicken to do that too:) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Somebody help. —Simon Robinson
       In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: Sorry for not replying to this earlier - been a little busy. Anyway... (...) <snip> (...) Just out of interest, why? Is it because you're worried about dodgy people being on the web or because you don't (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
      (...) Not sure I would have put it *quite* this way, but yeah, what he said. I've been as tolerant as I'm going to be, made some suggestions I thought were helpful only to have him ask me to write the thing for him (poem), then to see this kind of (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
       (...) (poem), (...) I've got writers block, I can't help it. I didn't ask for a whole poem. (...) I'm not an egocentric person, SORRY for sounding like one. (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
      (...) You can work through writer's block, trust me. Putting ANYthing down on paper gets you started. Not sure most of the advice I could offer writing-wise would be of much use to a freshman in high school, so do what I suggested and talk to a (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      (...) remember that one of them was supposed to be a funny one but I can't remember what it was called. Sounds like it would be a good one to do:) I just need the name and some of the rules for it. (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Bram Lambrecht
      (...) limerick? --Bram (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      (...) I think that's it (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Matthew Miller
      (...) I don't think "limerick" and "romantic" go together very well! If you want to impress someone, that isn't the way to do it. Try just writing something several stanzas long about something interesting from everyday life. Pick a concrete image (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Matthew Miller
      A great example of a villanelle is <URL:(URL) Note that Mr. Dylan Thomas pretty much disregards my advice about focusing on concrete images. Oh well. Listen to the audio if you can -- it works a lot better that way. You can see -- or hear, rather -- (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      (...) theater (...) at (...) afterwards (...) Sorry for the response I gave you earlier today, I wasn't thinking right. They are no ineresting comedy's in my town if you were wondering. (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
     In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jodi Neal writes: If there is a mall with a movie theater (...) I was thinking maybe 6TH SENSE Rated PG-13 (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Somebody help. —Eric Joslin
     (...) How do you know this girl? Is she in one of your classes, or is she a friend of a friend? Are you in a club together? Here's the best piece of advice I can give you: Talk to her. Figure out a way to get her talking and keep it up. Keep the (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      (...) elementry so I would see her every now and then. Here's the best piece of advice I can give you: Talk to her. Figure out a way (...) to (...) talking. (...) and (...) that (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Eric Joslin
      (...) So you already know her pretty well? Do you talk to her often? eric (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      (...) No I don't talk to her often, I'm a shy person (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Jeremy Sproat
       (...) This is the most important factor IMHO. From personal experience trying to woo someone, it has always been worth it to get to know her personally. The benefits are simply too great to pass up! If you hit it off well, you get to romance a good (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Eric Joslin
      (...) JSproat said it best. There's no other way, man. Start up conversations with her. Get her talking, get her laughing. Don't spring asking her out in the first conversation, but don't let it wait too long, either. Take a deep breath and just do (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      I chickened out today. It was a good chance to. (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
     (...) Maybe tommrow. There was a girl when I was in 7th grade I wanted to ask out but I couldn't get the courage up. We talked to each other a lot also. Thought I'd say that. (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
     (...) I think Yoda has a saying for this type of situation... (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Matthew Miller
      (...) "That place... is strong with the dark side of the Force. A domain of evil it is. In you must go."? (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
      (...) I was thinking more along the lines of "Do or do not. There is no try." But I like yours better. (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
      In lugnet.people, Mike Stanley writes:>I think Yoda has a saying for this type of situation... What is it? (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —James Brown
     (...) that. (...) You must confront Vader? James (URL) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
   
        Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
     (...) Tomorrow is D-Day in my opinion (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)
   
        Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
     (...) I hope this gets to lugnet.people (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Jodi Neal
     OK Ryan, and the rest of you guys, ;-) Don't worry Ryan your response to me did not upset me. But let's see, South Park was a choice for you to want to see. I must be missing something in that movie. Plus, wasn't it like NC17 or R rated? And now on (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Mike Stanley
      (...) Yeah, that's a pretty harsh movie. I found parts of it hillariously funny, but I doubt any set of parents would approve of their daughter being taken to see it. (...) I guess it just depends on the situation, the people, etc. By the time I was (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
       [SNIP] She just turned 17 today. Surprised me when I over heard it. -14 3 year differnce(Sort of.) I over heard this also: Her date was canceled the DAY before HOMECOMING and I'm wondering why. (That's one thing I would NEVER do.) I feel sorry for (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Jeremy Sproat
      (...) Okay, y'all gotta help me on this one. I came to the States after graduation, and my high school didn't have this...thing. "Homecoming" baffles me. It's so much a part of the local culture everywhere I go, and it gets everyone all hot and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Mike Stanley
       (...) Hrmmm... not sure about the coming home part but in my experience the games scheduled for homecoming are normally sure-things. You'll never see UTK playing Florida on homecoming. (...) Hrmmm... tuxes? We never wore tuxes to homecoming. Prom (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
      
           Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Jeremy Sproat
        (...) (!) Okay, this is going to sound dumb, so I'll let you reply after you've picked youself up from the ground, still convulsing from crippling bouts of laughter... So Homecoming, then, is also a college thing? (...) I hear you. :-, Cheers, - (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
       
            Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Mike Stanley
         (...) Well, there is a homecoming GAME. And usually some sort of parade? I honestly can't confirm this, since I won't be caught dead near campus on a game day, but I know there are all these stupid float things all up and down frat row the next week (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
       
            Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Ryan Smith
          (...) Sure is, but I don'think it is as big as it is in High School Speaking of a sure win situation, this was funny on friday. The team that we were playing on their first punt, punted it for a NEGATIVE 3 yards, Don't tell me that's not funny! (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
       
            Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —David Eaton
        (...) Yep. The odd thing I think is that my high school didn't do anything for homecoming, other than the homecoming game. There was a game every year, and we actually had a pep rally 1 year... but the profound lack of school spirit made it (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
       
            Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Larry Pieniazek
        Homecoming is, I think, supposedly for the Alumni! It's supposedly the alumni who come back (come home) to their alma mater and watch the team trounce some hapless opponent and reminisce about good times. At Da Tech homecoming was a Big Deal. It was (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
       
            Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Steve Bliss
        (...) Did Tech ever win a homecoming game? Note to onlookers: Michigan Technological University is (well, was) not well-endowed when it came to football. At the time I was there (mid-80's) we didn't have a football stadium, just a gridiron with a (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
      
           Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Ryan Smith
       UTK playing Florida on homecoming. (...) Is that supposed to be U.K.? I've never heard of UTK (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
      
           Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Mike Stanley
       (...) Maybe that isn't the common abbreviation when it comes to college football. University of Tennessee (at Knoxville). Home of the defending national football champions. Yay. (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
      
           Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Ryan Smith
        (...) BOOO. Florida State should of won! My birth place. (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Steve Bliss
       (...) My understanding is that "Homecoming" was supposed to be for alumni to come back and visit. If that was the case at one point, it hasn't been true for a long time. Especially high school. Parade, Game, Dance. Those are the essential elements (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Todd Lehman
      (...) "Your Guide to High School Hate" by Philip Michaels may shed some light: (URL) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: What is Homecoming? (Re: Somebody help.) —Jeremy Sproat
      (...) Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
     \NC17 or R rated? (...) Yeah, I had to go see it with my dad(He thought it was funny to). I can't wait til I'm 17 to go see R rated movies(but with my luck the gov't. will probably change it to 21:( It was funny to, we finaly got to see Kenny's face (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Somebody help. —Thomas Main
     (...) <snip> An interesting thing to note here is that most libraries will check out an r-rated movie to anyone with a library card, regardless of age. -- Thomas Main main@appstate.edu (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
   
        Censorship? Hah! (Was: Somebody help.) —Jeremy Sproat
     (...) <SARCASM> Anything less would *OBVIOUSLY* be stifling freedom of speech. Like when libraries choose to block certain Internet sites... </SARCASM> Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Censorship? Hah! (Was: Somebody help.) —Ryan Smith
     I apologise for sounding like such a Jacka** in some of my post. There was this one post in here that had something like this: I'd rather see someone asking on dating instead of getting involved in drugs, alcohol, etc. I hate to say this, but about (...) (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Censorship? Hah! (Was: Somebody help.) —Ryan Smith
      (...) Sorry, I meant to post this to lugnet.people (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Censorship? Hah! (Was: Somebody help.) —Mike Stanley
     (...) Then you need to find new friends. (25 years ago, 4-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Censorship? Hah! (Was: Somebody help.) —Ryan Smith
      (...) Sorry, my friends are my friends and they stay my friends no matter what they do. (On a more painful note, I seperated my growth plate farther apart last night at the Ymca, for the second time this year.) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)
   
        Re: Somebody help. —Ryan Smith
   (...) I'l try tommorow and I'll tell you how it goes (if I don't chicken out:) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.people)
 

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