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Re: The Scott and Larry show (was: Nothing personal, but...)
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Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:22:46 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> 
> 
> Scott A wrote:
> 
> > > He stated an opinion that was based on a lifetime of informal evidence
> > > gathering.
> > 
> > Nope. From his message:
> > 
> > > When you
> > > challenged me I went off and counted noses at that point in order to see if
> > > my hunch was right.
> 
> HUNCH.  Do you know what that word means?  Obviously not.
> 
> 
> > > He guessed
> > > right!  What's your deal?
> > 
> > My deal is that he guessed/fabricated data and is still trying to pass it of
> > as fact. I shall remind you, he has not said it was a guess/fabrication yet
> > - we (you and I) are only guessing that is the case. This is what he is
> > saying he did:
> > 
> > =+=
> > When you
> > challenged me I went off and counted noses at that point in order to see if
> > my hunch was right. It was, at least for the 20+ fests, meetings, events,
> > etc., I've attended in 6 countries on 3 continents... (a slightly better
> > sample set than yours) For the subset that I reviewed pictures, each one of
> > them was more male than 49% and more white than the population average for
> > the continent or the country or the state that it was held in. (whichever is
> > a good metric)
> > =+=
> > 
> > That does not sound like guesswork - it sounds like a good metric. What do
> > you think?
> 
> What about the word HUNCH do you not understand?

Tom,
If it was a HUNCH, Larry needs to make it clear that it was a complete
fabrication - not dress it up as fact. Read the text I quoted again - does
it sound like a hunch. When Larry said he was "unwilling" to tell us all
where he found the data, did that make it sound like a hunch?

> 
> Once again, as usual, you've latched onto one word or phrase in a post and pounded
> it into the ground, ignoring the entire post that makes it clear to any critical
> thinker.

Yawn - another insult. Tom, where did you get the idea for all these one-liners?

Scott A

> 
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  Re: The Scott and Larry show (was: Nothing personal, but...)
 
(...) OK, here's some personal data from my observations. All AFOLs (10) that I have met (granted, a small sampling) in person have been white. Of those, one was a female. According to November 1, 2000 US Government Census estimates: (URL) of the (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: The Scott and Larry show (was: Nothing personal, but...)
 
Y'know, the odd thing is I usually find Scott's remarks to be rather arguing the absurd, but I will admit that he's not wrong. Just pointless. (...) You're absoloutely right. Larry should indeed indicate that his statistics for the countries he was (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The Scott and Larry show (was: Nothing personal, but...)
 
(...) HUNCH. Do you know what that word means? Obviously not. (...) What about the word HUNCH do you not understand? Once again, as usual, you've latched onto one word or phrase in a post and pounded it into the ground, ignoring the entire post (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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