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Re: Suddenly Chris makes it personal (was: Nothing personal, but...)
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Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:51:58 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > When he had a spate of treating his playmates poorly, the other
> > parents were bugged that I didn't make him "be nice." But now he seems to
> > realize that since they stopped playing with him, there is a _real_ reason to
> > be nice. He actually learned, rather than obeyed. I'll take that every time.
> >
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> And in the meantime everyone ELSE has to put up with your child being a brat?
If he had been so severe that I thought the other children needed their rights
protected, I would have done so. In the instance that I'm thinking of, that
wasn't the case. He wasn't bein egregiously abusive, he just wasn't being very
pleasant. And I don't think that he needed to be forced into it.
> You disgust me.
After all, no one forces you to be pleasant.
> You're one of the people that lets their children run rampant
> over everyone else,
I am? How? When? Name a time that you have either witnessed or heard account
of in which that has happened. The fact is that my single child doesn't act
like a brat except for some notable rare occasions. I don't believe that
anyone has the right to trample on the rights of others, but up until that
point, they do have the right to conduct themselves as they see fit.
> Subjecting the rest of the world to your pie-in-the-sky child
> rearing techniques whether we want to hear them or not
Are you being forced to read about them, or forced to personally deal with my
child behaving in a disruptive way? I didn't realize how great the impact of
my family was on your life.
> (and letting your child run rampant with no regard for
> how other people are being affected by it IS forcing your
> techniques on us)
Luckily, I don't do that, so I guess your entire note is misplaced.
> You obviously don't give a damn about anyone else but
> yourself and your children.
Well, I certainly do care more about my son than anyone else, but part of that
is caring about his ability to deal with a society that has certain
expectations. So I do my part to inform him of those. But really, I think
you're just shooting off your mouth because that's one of the things you do
best. Would you care to back these claims up with something more than wild
inference from a tossed out example in a note of mine? Or are you happier just
making incorrect assumptions about people so that they can be neatly
pidgeonholed in your little scheme?
> I can see why you're asking, you don't seem to have any clue whatsoever about right
> and wrong. Subjecting others to the bad behavior of your children merely for your
> experimentation in child rearing is WRONG. You obviously don't see it that
way.
What bad behavior of my son's do you mean? Is it similarly "WRONG" when you
subject people to _your_ "bad behavior?"
Chris
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