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Re: Child rearing (was: Nothing personal, but...)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:53:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Steve Lane writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> > Since I don't agree that the consequence is artificial, I can't answer
> > your question as asked. The costs in terms of relationship and personal
> > autonomy (whatever that means, really) are minor, except in cases of
> > arbitrary and excessive abuse. If humans were to remain at the pre-formal
> > operational stage of development, I might agree that punishment could only
> > ever achieve a simple associative result, a la "do this and get smacked."
> > However, since humans are able to advance beyond simple, linear concepts of
> > transgression and punishment into notions of (culture- and society-based)
> > right and wrong, then I maintain that punishment is not an inappropriate
> > measure until such abstract concepts can be grasped.
> >
> > Dave!
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> I agree with Dave and it's not like you have to smack the child for every
> transgression. Once you've smacked them for crayoning on the wall when they
> discover another inappropriate action you can inform them if they do it
> again, that too will lead to a smacking.
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> Perhaps Christopher should do an experiment. Have three kids, smack one,
> tell the second not to do things again and let the third run riot without
> any kind of discipline at all (he/she would be the control subject after all).
>
> Steve
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
:-)
Bruce
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