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Re: The Scott and Larry show (was: Nothing personal, but...)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:50:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Duane Hess writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott A wrote:
> > >
> > > > > He stated an opinion that was based on a lifetime of informal evidence
> > > > > gathering.
> > > >
> > > > Nope. From his message:
> > > >
> > > > > When you
> > > > > challenged me I went off and counted noses at that point in order to see if
> > > > > my hunch was right.
> > >
> > > HUNCH. Do you know what that word means? Obviously not.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > He guessed
> > > > > right! What's your deal?
> > > >
> > > > My deal is that he guessed/fabricated data and is still trying to pass it of
> > > > as fact. I shall remind you, he has not said it was a guess/fabrication yet
> > > > - we (you and I) are only guessing that is the case. This is what he is
> > > > saying he did:
> > > >
> > > > =+=
> > > > When you
> > > > challenged me I went off and counted noses at that point in order to see if
> > > > my hunch was right. It was, at least for the 20+ fests, meetings, events,
> > > > etc., I've attended in 6 countries on 3 continents... (a slightly better
> > > > sample set than yours) For the subset that I reviewed pictures, each one of
> > > > them was more male than 49% and more white than the population average for
> > > > the continent or the country or the state that it was held in. (whichever is
> > > > a good metric)
> > > > =+=
> > > >
> > > > That does not sound like guesswork - it sounds like a good metric. What do
> > > > you think?
> > >
> > > What about the word HUNCH do you not understand?
> >
> > Tom,
> > If it was a HUNCH, Larry needs to make it clear that it was a complete
> > fabrication - not dress it up as fact. Read the text I quoted again - does
> > it sound like a hunch. When Larry said he was "unwilling" to tell us all
> > where he found the data, did that make it sound like a hunch?
>
> OK, here's some personal data from my observations. All AFOLs (10) that I
> have met (granted, a small sampling) in person have been white. Of those,
> one was a female.
>
> According to November 1, 2000 US Government Census estimates:
> http://www.census.gov/population/estimates/nation/intfile3-1.txt
>
> 11.9% of the national population is "HISPANIC ORIGIN (of any race)"
> 71.3% of the national population is "WHITE, NOT HISPANIC"
> 12.2% of the national population is "BLACK, NOT HISPANIC"
> 0.7% of the national population is "AMERICAN INDIAN, ESKIMO, AND ALEUT, NOT
> HISPANIC"
> 3.8% of the national population is "ASIAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDER, NOT HISPANIC"
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> My 100% obviously does not meet the national figures
>
> From the same page (assuming millions):
I just re-read the page and the numbers are in thousands, my mistake....
> Total population: 276,059
> Male population: 134,979
> Female population: 141,080
>
> % of total population that is female (calculated): 51.1%
>
> My 10% obviously does not meet the national figures.
>
>
-Duane
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