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(...) Dogs don't know any better. They didn't 10,000+ years ago, and they won't know any better 10,000+ years from now. Men, on the othe hand, are suppose to have this capacity for change, for conscious reasoning, for saying "Just because I can do (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe Dave just realised it (again?)... it's easy to lose sight of how bad the bad guys are when what you mostly hear about is how bad the good guys are. Where was the outrage in the media at all the previous atrocities by the various thuggish (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [big snip] Doesn't seem that way. :) (...) I don't understand what's different? That's what it's always been about. (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm almost at a loss for words. At a time when the world's (including many Americans, btw) opinion was against Bush and Co. for their mismanagement of the Iraqi situation, those stupid <insert expletive here> go do what they did. I don't swear much, (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's just wait and see where the voting public lash their canoes... Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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It's a really good thing that Bush is standing by Rummy through the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal. This means that George is caught in a classic Monkey Trap. In the jungle, they capture monkeys by cutting a hole in a coconut shell, chaining it to a (...) (20 years ago, 11-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Mmmmm. I saw Geoffrey Robertson interviewed on (URL) Lateline> and while it wasn't the focus of the interview, he got to the nub of what concerns me about this. "...because what we're seeing here is not just the kind of abuse that happens in (...) (20 years ago, 11-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Kelly McKiernan" <kelly@anagrafyxx.com> wrote in message news:Hx9zyp.13J@lugnet.com... (...) Isn't it even worse when certain Nazis take a few newsgroup posts a little too seriously? ;) It's not like someone's really going to connect LEGO with (...) (20 years ago, 9-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oops. Is (URL) this> any better? (...) Read (URL) this>. (...) lol. So he only wanted to involve the international community on his terms? (...) BTW: I thought we'd already established that Bush is not interested in eliminating dictatorships (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's not really a good comparison, though. FOX is a 24-hour news/propaganda outlet, while ABC and NBC are entertainment channels with occasional news coverage (and pretty crappy coverage, at that). CBS is also an entertainment channel and (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So Fox a free network channel has better ratings than CNN a 'pay for' cable channel. What does that have to do with ABC, NBC, and CBS (all free network channels) all having better ratings than Fox? (...) If you actually belive that, it (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Here's> Dubya, spreading diplomacy and understanding around the world with his politics of personal responsiblity. And here's the important bit: "I was sorry for the humiliation suffered by the Iraqi prisoners and the humiliation suffered by (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It was intended in a sarcastic vein, which I appear to have failed to adequately express. I fully understand the logic behind calling it "Nazi grey" (I actually prefer "gun-metal grey"), on the basis that it's reported to be very close to the (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) FYI, you might find this post of interest: (URL) Though I get the impression that "Wehrmachtsgrau" doesn't necessarily imply "Nazi" but military or army gray, instead. At least Babel Fish says it means "Armed forces-grey". Mark (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Who the heck is voting yes?! I went along to one of his book readings last summer. I was very impressed by him. After an hour of ranting and raving, he took questions from the floor (some from real cranks) for a further hour. He looks twice as big (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) This> kills both your points. (...) The last time I looked the UN disarmed Iraq... then Bush invaded. (...) Why ask and then ignore the answer? (...) Who hand-picked the IGC? Who decides who gets power at the end of June? Who rigged the (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I wonder what Diem's thoughts on the matter would be? Pedro (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Ran across this article trolling for info about the Google IPO, if you can believe it. I can't comment on the accuracy(1) but I did find it interesting. (URL) particular I found this quote QUITE interesting: " As Eli Lehrer, a crime expert at the (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And yours aren't as well? (...) Fox is hardly the country's main news source. The much more liberal leaning ABC, NBC, and CBS are the big three. (...) Re-read the previous sentance as it answers your question. (...) The UN has never in its (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) He has to say the "s" word if he wants to play here again. Other offenders do not have to(1); but he does due to the way his "outburst" was used as axe grinding material (IRC). I hope I'm not betraying a confidence when I say I know he lurks (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yep, and I don't want foot soldiers to carry the can for (URL) institutional failures> either: In a letter home earlier this year, Staff Sergeant Chip Frederick, one of the soldiers charged, said he had questioned some of the things that he (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is my opinion that Richard knows what he has to do to get the ban on posting access rescinded. It's my view he's chosen not to do those things. (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: <snip> (...) I've been meaning to ask, is Richard's ban permanent? I don't have any clue... -Evil Wayne (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) from the company that greenlighted "Haunted Mansion" and "The Jungle Book 2." (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote: <snip> (...) I don't know but the charm, for me, has faded in o-t.d. I get all excited about something and I banter with Bruce, or Dave! But it's more effort now than it was before. It's like I have to (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps I'm unclear on your conception of The Big Picture. Here's mine, and I'd be interested to see how it fits alongside yours: The United States is widely perceived to be a hegemonic and militaristic juggernaut bent on securing its own (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What makes you think I'd want that? I'm lucky enough to live in a country which has a good range of independent national media which reports on domestic and international issues without feeling the need to wave my flag in my face. I know the (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I can't retract it. It's just a question and an opinion. I'm just saying you *seem* much more unhappy now than you used to be. Do a search on in .debate on Scott Arthur. Then click on "prefer older" and compare the results. It would seem to me (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is offensive. I demand you either substantiate or retract that statement! I joined AI in 1987 and opposed SH when Washington/London still supported him. I opposed Apartheid when Washington/London supported it.I’ve even castigated (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) here. People still swim in the ocean even though it's inhabited by sharks. However the media will always cover the shark bite stories because it's easy to sell pictures of shark bite violence. But they'll never tell you anything about the (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Unfortunately, it's far too easy to justify countless small atrocities by invoking The Big Picture. Here's the well-known and prevailing wisdom on the matter (quoted here, but famous in general): (URL) more and more ugly details keep surfacing (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I tend to agree with you there, however I suspect your heart and mind are set in their ways, regardless of how this particular event works out. Fortunately, according to the blog, some people (whom this actually concerns) are able to see the (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) Things are worse> than I understood: the CIA's former counter-terrorism chief Cofer Black has been quoted as saying about interrogation techniques that "after 9/11, the gloves came off". It is now being reported that there have been (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If it's "handled correctly" a lot of people will end up in the slammer: (URL) Against the law of war> "the laws of war require that all countries take the necessary steps to ensure that they are respected. All military personnel should receive (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Inquirer (...) media" (...) relations. (...) over 80 (...) liberal (...) Your comment sounds more than a little subjective. (...) Rupert (...) So we agree that your country’s main TV news source is not liberal? (...) a fact. (...) is right (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (URL) particular incident may in fact do just that: Win some hearts and minds if it's handled correctly. (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Its relevant because most printed editorials in my local papers are liberal propaganda. (...) Yup, that is a good source of conservative propaganda. (...) See overall the media is dead center. That is why liberals think it is right wing biased (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, let's be pragmatic about this. If Dubya complains about Sharon's choice to defy worldwide consensus and employ unilateral military intervention, then Dubya can hardly maintain his Straussian "invade them all and let Rumsfeld sort them (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (URL) 50 retired US diplomats> think Bush and Sharon are part of the problem; On Bush: "Your unabashed support of Sharon's extra-judicial assassinations, Israel's Berlin-Wall-like barrier, its harsh military measures in occupied territories (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Steve, if we all invested in gold, rather than the stock market, the stock market would fail. In fact, capitalism would fail! Good luck! Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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About three years ago I advised my family and friends to get out of the stock market (especially mutual funds) and into Gold (and Silver) - mining stocks if they wanted to be more aggressive. In a couple of months the S&P had recovered from about (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yep, maybe the War on Terrorism will be the (URL) to End All Wars> ROSCO (20 years ago, 2-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure how relevant that is (if true). I'd imagine it's the view of the editor and owner that hold sway. Remember, every-single-one of Rupert Murdoch's 50+ papers supported the war... he also owns Fox News. The right leaning nature of (...) (20 years ago, 1-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The "security contractor" (mercenary) is (URL) here> too. (URL) An other> of his mates got the same e-mail. In fact, if you search the web, you'll see he mailed the letter to quite a lot of "friends”... like this (URL) one>. Please read this (...) (20 years ago, 30-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You do know that it is a matter of public record that slightly over 80 percent of American journalists are registered Democrats right? (...) You also know that John Kerry in early 2002 (and Bill Clinton when he was president) are both on (...) (20 years ago, 1-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not the "liberal media" again! Was it them who hid the WMD from George? Did they invent the story about (URL) this picture>? Or even this (URL) story>? Scott A (20 years ago, 30-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
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(...) Odd. When I tested the link in the post preview page it worked. Now I can't even get to it using the article search on www.philly.com. Must be after a few days it goes to only registered users. Quite annoying. Given that the newspaper has (...) (20 years ago, 30-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | A footnote (was Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism)
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(...) I've known about this since the day it happened, but (URL) here's> a good summation of Bush's pious, vulgarity-free public life. While we're at it, (URL) here's> some video of our born-again, teetotaling Prez back in August of 1992. (...) (20 years ago, 30-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Wining Hearts & Minds?>
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(...) That should be Wining and Dining Hearts & Minds... Iraq did once export wine. Scott A (20 years ago, 30-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Hearts & Minds?> I found this (URL) quote> from Brigadier General Janis Karpinski regarding the lack of information about the ~10,000 “detainees” she was in charge of in Iraq: “We're not trying to withhold information from you. Some (...) (20 years ago, 30-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, give credit where it's due! At his last press conference, Dubya didn't answer a single question. To go from zero to "every question" is quite a shift. It's just a pity he's not under oath. Of course, Scott McClellan harumphed that Bush (...) (20 years ago, 29-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think it's just dandy. It's not prostitution 'cause there's no money exchanged And as long as it's consensual, who are we to meddle in what's going behind other consenting adults' closed doors? And if the 'Organization' is doing this for the (...) (20 years ago, 29-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL): "I was never advised by my counsel to not answer anything. I answered every question they asked" That's kind of a given; not something to brag about. Was it his counsel who suggested he should not answer questions under oath, or that the (...) (20 years ago, 29-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, it's weird. I got in somehow without signing up. I think I pasted the link into the URL bar and fixed it up to end with .html. Then it served up the article and also must've redirected me to the odd looking mangled link. Now I get the (...) (20 years ago, 29-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's probably because you're not serving with the armed forces... but the service is *widely* available elsewhere :-P Pedro (20 years ago, 29-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) (20 years ago, 29-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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You want to give the gist of it? I refuse to sign up at every danged news site across the world just to pick up one story here or there. (...) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (20 years ago, 29-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) is of interest not because Dubya's administration would ever admit that the US had erred (unless, of course, it could blame Clinton) but because it's a good reminder that the US was once pretty cozy with the very maniacal dictator we later (...) (20 years ago, 29-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I can get to the website fine and read the content just fine. I just clicked the link again to make sure. I can't comment on service availability though... Perhaps it's not available to you because you're not in the Armed Forces ?? More (...) (20 years ago, 29-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.
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Quite interesting. (URL) Petrucelli (20 years ago, 29-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm getting a "Service Unavailable" message. 8^( Dave! (20 years ago, 29-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I ran across this (thank you, Mr. Madsen!) in my travels around the .net... (URL) have no idea if it's for real or not. I can't decide if I *want* it to be real or not... I'm not even sure what kneejerk reaction I ought to be emitting, if any, (...) (20 years ago, 29-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I liked this just 'cause it uses the term "laser cannon": He acknowledged delays in the Airborne Laser, a program that aims to mount a laser cannon on a Boeing 747, which would shoot down missiles as they were launched. So far, engineers have (...) (20 years ago, 28-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Despite record deficits, a shaky economy, and increasing worldwide animosity toward the United States' military hegemony, Dubya has gone ahead to fund one of the (URL) biggest, most ill-conceived, and most unnecessary pork projects> in decades. I (...) (20 years ago, 27-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Bush & Co have used 911(tm) to justify all sorts of things... even preventing (URL): "After September 11 the American people are valuing life more. The fundamental difference between us and the terrorist network we fight is that we value life." I'd (...) (20 years ago, 27-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Powell: "I hope they will understand that in order for this government to get up and running - to be effective - some of its sovereignty will have to be given back...It's sovereignty but some of that sovereignty they are going to allow us to (...) (20 years ago, 27-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Ahh infinity, how I love ye! Was Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: Please read this whole post (or at least the bottom part) before replying. I may be onto something... (...) Well, let's identify another distinction that seems to be causing us some trouble. You're (...) (20 years ago, 26-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Ahh infinity, how I love ye! Was Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
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(...) I concur--a concept of infinity existing on a two dimensional surface of a sphere is a valid one. But the operative word here is *concept*. In reality, in the physical universe, the surface isn't infinite for it is subject to the finite issues (...) (20 years ago, 26-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you're blurring the distinction between "impractical in practice" and "impossible in reality." Whether or not we can devise an mechanism that will exist for eternity is irrelevant. The fact that we can create an unbounded (...) (20 years ago, 26-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Wondering why Bush wants Aljazeera to leave Falluja? Read (URL) this>: The main hospital apparently has been destroyed by bombing and the second largest is covered by US snipers - the Iraqis call it sniper alley. So Iraqi people are not able to get (...) (20 years ago, 26-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Does the "writ of Wesayso" trump the writ of Habeas Corpus?
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: (snip) Here is the WSJ editorial I referred to, now republished on the Cato site (URL) (20 years ago, 26-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) Key quote>: The use of the death penalty against child offenders – people under 18 at the time of the crime – is clearly prohibited under international law, yet a handful of countries persist with child executions. Since January 1990 (...) (20 years ago, 24-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, what is democracy anyway? Even if USA had been located in Europe, it wouldn't even qualify to join the EU. Death penalty isn't worthy a democracy according to our standards. Don't know if it's an urban legend, but I've heard that in some (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Ahh infinity, how I love ye! Was Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
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(...) I'd rephrase again--the path is theoretically infinite, for if you set up this exact scenario using real life lasers, ball-bearings nad spinning tools, within a set amount of time something will break down--or the path of the laser, over time, (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Ahh infinity, how I love ye! Was Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
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(...) I think I'm guilty of an imprecision here. I meant that the path of the laser is effectively infinite, not that it would traverse an endlessly new part of the sphere's surface. Also, as long as we're talking about two dimensions instead of (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, and I can sit in my swivel chair and spin from now until "the end of time", never stopping the spin (excluding such contingencies as death and parts on chair wearing out) but, again, that only works 'on paper'. IN real world applications, (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I dunno, baseballs seem to have no problem moving in differential calculus using dv's and dt's... but of course that is continuum mechanics. Some Lugnet physics guru is going to have to speak up about quantum mechanics with the Planck scales (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Like I said, Zeno's Paradox. But 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32... equals 1. Additionally, your formulation demands that space be infinitely divisible, which it is not. (...) "Apt" is yet to be determined, but I admit that it's clever! (...) (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Christian historians, too: How many saxons on the head of a pin? -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is a variant of the one Dave K mentioned earlier. Before moving any distance X, the distance 1/2X must be covered. Before moving distance 1/2X, 1/4X distance must be moved, etc. Since there will always be a distance smaller than the one to (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So that's what Christian mathematicians argue about! ;-) JOHN (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) True, but your formulation of this example is incorrect. The ink line is not made of an infinite number of infinitely small "points" of ink; rather, the line is made of a finite (but quite large) number of very small (but quite finite) (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) :) (...) And I agree with many of your assessments, which is why I'm having 'issue' with the 'Church Proper' right now. It was clearly illuminated when I read that cute story about the answer to the question "Is Hell exothermic or endotheric". (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Infinity *does* exist, and it's in lots of places all around us. Find the terminus (in two dimensions) of the surface of a sphere, for one example. The duplicity of Dubya, for another (I hope that this one is merely a jest, though I'm not yet (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Infinity may exist. Finite minds can grasp theories and ideas regarding infinite, but cannot encompass what infinite really is due to the very nature of finite minds If finite minds cannot encompass infinite, infinite cannot exist? That's the (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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The Bush administration wants the power to imprison anyone (US citizen or not), anywhere (whether taken from US soil or not, whether held on US soil or not), anytime, for an indefinate duration, without access to counsel, without even being charged (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You can, but your logic would be faulty. Present your argument for review, if you'd like. (...) This is that wordplay I cautioned against! (...) Which God? The Christian God? You'll likely disagree, but I find God to be logically impossible on (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Here's another one (URL) Even the TSA's own internal investigator doesn't think they're doing a good job at securing things. I'll give them this, they do a great job of hassling people for no good reason though. (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) May offend>, but I suppose art often does. In yesterday’s (URL), there was another Mosaic of Bush (made from the mug-shots of US troops killed in Iraq), but I can’t find a picture on the web ;( Scott A (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) OK, I buy that. Heck, I've always said your god wasn't very logical anyway. But your god didn't make the assertion above about relationships between happiness and god proximity, though... *you* did. (unless you assert that you were speaking in (...) (20 years ago, 23-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ...but my Queen claims to be my servant... just as Bush should be your's! Does that make Bush a god? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Or that he is existentially at peace with living an emphemoral life. Most people want to believe that there is something more to life than this existence. (...) Well, whether Jesus was or wasn't the Suffering Servant isn't the point; the point (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It's unsatisfactory to a logical mind. Logic is a tool, but not the end all of inquiry. It has its limitations. Heck, I can use logic to prove that movement is impossible (ask). Applying logic to God is like trying to measure the volume of an (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: (snip) (...) That's how I was taking it (literally)-- it reminded me of this one: "What do you call a women without an A**hole?" "Single" Ahh, the fine art of menbashing.... FUTOT.F JOHN (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, it is based on the idiot that said, "If God wanted man to fly, He would have given him wings," so I just followed that format instead of PCing it (ummm, do I have to admit that I came up with this saying before the term "PC" existed, (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It already did, but I suppose that adds another. (...) Apparently there is no Saint Bruce (unless you're Scottish and want to count Robert the Bruce, who was hardly a saint but that's who I'm named after - though the Scot in the family is (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Got any about women? ;-) JOHN (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It works on sooo many levels. But fine, I'll use the G... G? George? Gerry? Godfreid? Geoffrey? Oh wait, that's mine... Dave G. K "If God wanted man to think, He would have given him a brain." -BGS (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So, you don't agree with it? Oh, wait...geez, use my middle initial (G). I never use just the first and last.... ;-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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