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Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
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Wed, 5 May 2004 20:16:34 GMT
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Its relevant because most printed editorials in my local papers are liberal
propaganda.
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Your comment sounds more than a little subjective.
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And yours aren’t as well?
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So we agree that your country’s main TV news source is not liberal?
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Fox is hardly the country’s main news source. The much more liberal leaning ABC,
NBC, and CBS are the big three.
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See overall the media is dead center. That is why liberals think it is right
wing biased and why conservatives think it is leftwing biased.
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So what is your point? Does the media have a liberal bias or not?
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Re-read the previous sentance as it answers your question.
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After all, as I already stated,
even Clinton when president, was on record as saying sooner or later the US
would have to deal with Saddam and his WoMD.
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The UN was dealing with him; Blix was doing a great job.
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The UN has never in its exsistence actually done anything. In fact the current
Iraq operation merely marks the first time anyone actually asked permission
first.
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Show me how this “war” has reduced the risk to you or your “grandchildrens
children”.
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I note you have NO ANSWER TO THIS!
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Becuase it was answered elsewhere, one less dictatorship.
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The people making the real sacrifice are the Iraqis.
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Yeah, they actually have a chance at freedom for the first time since
Saddam overthrew the Democracy from an elected position 30 some odd years
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ago.
…yep, and Washington helped him every step of the way. Now Bush has
installed his own puppets.
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No he hasn’t. But if he does he will be making the same mistake as his
predecessors.
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Peace with a dictatorship is a farce, and in my opinion
condeming the people of those countries to a fate worse than if we simply
wiped those countries off the map. Of course I realize that you think I am a
“looney” for beliveing that a slave’s exsistence is worse than death and
that nuking a country is better than allowing its people to suffer a
dictator’s rule.
-Mike Petrucelli
P.S. Trivia question: How many Veitnamese civilians were slaughtered by the
Viet-Cong within the 2 weeks after US troops withdrew from the country at
the end of the Vietnam War?
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Over 1,000,000 were slaughtered by the Viet-Cong within the two weeks after the
US left. The point being is that something similar is what would happen if we
were to leave Iraq now as some liberal extremists have already suggested.
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I have no idea. Is it more than the >3,000,000 killed by
Washington in S Vietnam/SE Asia? Care to estimate how many of them were
civilians?
By 1965 the Washington’s (The Pentagon Papers) stated aims in Vietnam were:
- 70% Avoid defeat
- 20% Keep S Vietnam out of China’s hands
- 10% Help the people of S Vietnam “enjoy a better, freer way of life”.
Don’t be fooled, the Vietnam war was not about “freedom”.
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Well no kidding if it was about freedom we would have agreed to Ho Chi Mhin’s
(spelling?) request to kick the French out and help him build a Republic based
on the US constitution. Instead we figuratively flipped him off and let him
think our ideals were mere propaganda and caused him to appeal to the soviets.
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Trivia Q for you:
S Vietnam’s elected leader was President Diem. Which superpower had him
killed when it looked like he’d opt for peace with N Vietnam?
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Hopefully ours, because more often than not, peace is simply a euphemism for
surrender. (and remember I think death is better than a slave’s existence.)
-Mike Petrucelli
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