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Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
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Wed, 5 May 2004 21:46:17 GMT
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So we agree that your country’s main TV news source is not liberal?
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Fox is hardly the country’s main news source. The much more liberal leaning
ABC, NBC, and CBS are the big three.
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This kills both your points.
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After all, as I already stated,
even Clinton when president, was on record as saying sooner or later the US
would have to deal with Saddam and his WoMD.
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The UN was dealing with him; Blix was doing a great job.
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The UN has never in its exsistence actually done anything.
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The last time I looked the UN disarmed Iraq... then Bush invaded.
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In fact the
current Iraq operation merely marks the first time anyone actually asked
permission first.
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Why ask and then ignore the answer?
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…yep, and Washington helped him every step of the way. Now Bush has
installed his own puppets.
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No he hasn’t.
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Who hand-picked the IGC? Who decides who gets power at the end of June? Who
rigged the Iraqi constitution?
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But if he does he will be making the same mistake as his
predecessors.
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Peace with a dictatorship is a farce, and in my opinion
condeming the people of those countries to a fate worse than if we simply
wiped those countries off the map. Of course I realize that you think I am
a “looney” for beliveing that a slave’s exsistence is worse than death and
that nuking a country is better than allowing its people to suffer a
dictator’s rule.
-Mike Petrucelli
P.S. Trivia question: How many Veitnamese civilians were slaughtered by the
Viet-Cong within the 2 weeks after US troops withdrew from the country at
the end of the Vietnam War?
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Over 1,000,000 were slaughtered by the Viet-Cong within the two weeks after
the US left. The point being is that something similar is what would happen
if we were to leave Iraq now as some liberal extremists have already
suggested.
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I have no idea. Is it more than the >3,000,000 killed by
Washington in S Vietnam/SE Asia? Care to estimate how many of them were
civilians?
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This is right-wing claptrap. I have yet to hear a coherent argument for Iraq
being abandoned. The right overstate calls for abandonment and talk like it is
the only alternative to the current mess because they can’t justify themselves.
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By 1965 the Washington’s (The Pentagon Papers) stated aims in Vietnam were:
- 70% Avoid defeat
- 20% Keep S Vietnam out of China’s hands
- 10% Help the people of S Vietnam “enjoy a better, freer way of life”.
Don’t be fooled, the Vietnam war was not about “freedom”.
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Well no kidding if it was about freedom we would have agreed to Ho Chi Mhin’s
(spelling?) request to kick the French out and help him build a Republic
based on the US constitution. Instead we figuratively flipped him off and let
him think our ideals were mere propaganda and caused him to appeal to the
soviets.
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Trivia Q for you:
S Vietnam’s elected leader was President Diem. Which superpower had him
killed when it looked like he’d opt for peace with N Vietnam?
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Hopefully ours, because more often than not, peace is simply a euphemism for
surrender. (and remember I think death is better than a slave’s existence.)
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Was his death the only altervative? What did the people of S Vietnam want; were
they even considered?
Scott A
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