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    2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Kevin Johnston
   Tim comes through again. (URL) -- see news for today, 29 Oct. Warning: certain theme fans (SW, Potter) may like what they see, but System fans should prepare for disappointment. Kudos to Lego, regardless, for creative use of Dinosaurs parts (see (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.year.2002, lugnet.starwars) !! 
   
        RE: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Jesper Kjær
     Haha - nice - "Attack of The 50 Foot Ewok" Thanks for the scans!!! /Jesper (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.year.2002, lugnet.starwars)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Mark Herzberg
     (...) Thanks Kevin. But one word...YUCH! Though that off-road Racer truck looks cool. LEGO never fails to dissapoint me. Thank god for those re-issues. (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —John Carroll
     (...) is it just me or do some of the racers have POOP bodies, with a minifig head? look at 4582, 4583, 4593, 4595 & 4582. 4584 & 4585 seem to have normal minifigs but those other ones seem to have a single element for their bodies. I like some of (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         More POOPs and licenses (was Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB) —Kevin Johnston
      (...) Yep, looks like weird pseudo-torso pieces to me too. I wonder if they fly off on impact like the current Racers? Also, it looks like there is a back story, suggested by the background art. Does this come from the Racers software? (I've never (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
     
          Re: More POOPs and licenses (was Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB) —Eric Kingsley
       (...) Oh well... Just continuing the downward spin in terms of LEGO and Licensing. I remember when the Star Wars License was announced (TLC's First), that it was made clear that TLC was looking for long term relationships with products that have as (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
      
           Re: More POOPs and licenses (was Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB) —Dave Schuler
        (...) I wonder about that every time I see a zillion of those sets still setting on the shelves. Could it be that, in order to secure the Spielberg/LEGO Studios deal, it was necessary to license Jurassic Park III? Is there any way to find out? Dave! (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
      
           Re: More POOPs and licenses (was Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB) —Kevin Johnston
       (...) Yep, I remember that as well. Guess all the critics that this was the thin edge of a wedge were right after all. (...) Completely agreed on the risk. What a crock. I think the Bob sets will be a failure (or passable success) for the simple (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
      
           Re: More POOPs and licenses (Galidor) —Jim Green
       (...) I don't know if this answers the issue as for Galidor, but here is a little more info... (URL) the article: "As merchandising rights owner, Lego holds master toy and software licenses and is currently negotiating with licensing agents. The (...) (23 years ago, 2-Nov-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
      
           Re: More POOPs and licenses (Galidor) —Kevin Johnston
        (...) I think this means they have most major toy categories locked up (including the "action figure" segment). On the one hand, it means they will be able to stand out better (unlike the Bob the Builder sets, as I mentioned previously), but on the (...) (23 years ago, 2-Nov-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
      
           Re: More POOPs and licenses (Galidor) —Steve Bliss
       (...) I think more important is the first bit from the quote, which says that LEGO owns all merchandising rights. Any company that wants to make Galidor toys, has to get a license from Lego. Which means that Lego is on the upstream side of any (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
     
          Re: More POOPs and licenses (was Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB) —Dave Low
      (...) Here's some more info I tracked down : (URL) in Humanacy -- how good does that sound!! --DaveL (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Bradley Dale
     (...) What's wrong with that? A full-sized mini-figure torso has no alternate uses either. I really want a few of the new figures because 1) A new figure is for once smaller than mini-figures, sort of in-between "mini-fig" and "micro-fig" scale. I (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Reid Tomlins
     Thanks for the scans...but could you post larger scans so we can see the details better Thanks No Stranger to Danger Dark Knight (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002, lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Tim Saupé
     Ok, ok - I hear you :) I did that quickly so you could see them and I could get back to the evening with my wife and kids - I'll work to get higher res/bigger scans up later this evening (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Richard Marchetti
     (...) I can second the desire for better, higher resolution scans. Even so, I have the following questions/comments: #4712 -- Hary Potter set. What is that thing -- a white fountain, a sink, a toilet? Is that a pumpkin head? What is the big purple (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Kevin Johnston
     (Reply to the thread in general: thank Tim at FBTB.net, they're not my scans. I'm just the messenger.) (...) The scene in question takes place in a washroom-- so yes, sink or toilet is it. The large character is a troll (shown briefly in some (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Timothy Carl Buchheim
      (...) That part of the story takes place at Halloween. That's a jack-o-lantern, I'm sure. -- Tim Buchheim (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
     
          Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Alfred Speredelozzi
      I like the orange head. I am with the crowd or "more orange pieces please" so I don't feel like discouraging Lego over that one. I don't plan on buying any HP Lego thoa (wife won't let me since I am collecting SW Lego, and I have to save up for that (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
     
          Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Arne Lykke Nielsen
      (...) Sorry to disappoint you, but it's not orange - compare with the colour of the flames, it's TRANSLUCENT orange!! Arne (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Benjamin Medinets
     (...) I have to agree with you on this....I was also disappointed looking at the "fall preview". I think they brought out too much good stuff over the summer. Now that the days are getting colder, so are the designs.... I guess!!! I think the rebel (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Bryan Hodges
     Sweet... new pics and info is always welcome. What does everyone think of the Technic Vader? I think it looks pretty good, but being a low-res scan it could be messy. I also like the twin pod cloud car and the Ewok stuff... but I'm not sure about (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —John Neal
     In lugnet.year.2002, Bryan Hodges writes: I also like the twin pod (...) Here's my question-- does the 7119 look like it's made out of the new dark red bricks??? <fingers crossed> -John (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Tony Hafner
     (...) The Twin Pod pics are badly-composed in terms of lighting and angle. It's hard to glean much, but it looks like it is mostly regular red with dark red highlights. Am I the only one who thinks that Vader looks suspiciously like a K'Nex figure?! (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Ronald Vallenduuk
     Please Lego, tell me there's more technic to come than a DDK without Scout and a Darth Vader.... Duq Kevin Johnston <kevinj_sfbay@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:GLzosq.FME@lugnet.com... (...) System (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Jason Fabisch
     One word. Ugh. That has to be the worst group of SW sets ever. I love my SW sets. I love my AAT and MTT. I just don't like any of these sets. They come across as minifig packs or very angular. I see the Ewok sets as the cheap way to get ST's but you (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Benjamin Medinets
      (...) No offense Jason, but I think, with exception to the new ogel underwater base, that the new Alpha team offerings suck. The shark sub is nice if you remove the wierd contraptions on the front. I think subs have been done too much.... lego (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Matthew Teets
     (...) <<<SNIP>>> Jason, Your not seeing the episode 2 sets because I'm sure there is an agreement with Lucasarts on them. So all you can see is the "old" SW stuff. Most of the time was spent on those. The cool stuff is still on the way... Matt (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Erin Windross
     (...) To be honest, I don't think disapointment would correctly sum up my feelings. Instead, the phrase "Complete and utter hopelessness" springs to mind. Followups to Town. -- Erin (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002, lugnet.town)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Geordan Hankinson
     (...) Thanks Tim! put this in announce for everyone to see. Wow, for anybody who uses greeblies, (mecha or space builders) it is indeeed a good day! look at that destroyer droid! wow! perfect for greebeeling mecha! -Geordan- (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002, lugnet.announce)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Lindsay Frederick Braun
     (...) Those new Ogel sub arms appear in spades in the new Alpha Team stuff--and that IS indeed a new canopy type. Very cool. The QUEST seems also to use those new POOP-arms. best LFB (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Best new part EVER —Lindsay Frederick Braun
      Look at this: (URL) See the grey pieces on top of 4795 (and on the back of the yellow sub, that stretches across the page seam)? Those look an awful lot like half-versions of the maligned Droid Fighter Wing piece--in short, corner bits! I'm stoked. (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: Best new part EVER —James Howse
      (...) They're also in red on the nose of the twin cloud car. See (URL) also visible in the first Alpha Team page, where the curve is more visible. From the pics they appear to have a 2x6 footprint. The curve mates with the new canopy peice that (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
     
          Re: Best new part EVER —Richard Marchetti
       (...) Yeah, they're all over the place, and on the Racer sets too. The canopy appears to have open sides -- which is not the most sensible approach to underwater vehicles. (...) That's the business they are in -- making these plastic elements. The (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
      
           Re: Best new part EVER —Matthew Gerber
        (...) Didn't you see the shadow profiles for the Quest? They're here... Matt (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
      
           Re: Best new part EVER —Josh Baakko
       (...) I was thinking the same thing, I want MONORAILS! Josh (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
     
          Re: Best new part EVER —Allen Carley
       (...) And in brown (to my poor eyes) on the new speeder bike that comes with the ewoks. So we can use them in our droid fighter creations in the right color. Speaking of ewoks...do those mini-mini-fig legs (term used to avoid a team of lawyers (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
     
          Re: Best new part EVER —Arne Lykke Nielsen
      (...) Maybe molds are becoming cheaper to make? Speaking of new elements, that safe box at Gringotts have a key in it, meaning there must be a key-hole brick made (better than the doors, hopefully - my keys keep falling out) Arne (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: Best new part EVER —Fredrik Glöckner
      (...) I think they are just flexible plastic inserts, connected to the model using the four "SW guns" elements. Fredrik (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: Best new part EVER —Frank Filz
     (...) I suspect those are just plastic/paper sheets. Still, it looks decent, though obviously it would be nicer if they were regular ABS pieces. I see some nice stuff here, though some is not so exciting. Things I like: - more of Ogel's troops - (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Zhengrong Zang
     Is there any new train contents in 2002? Zhengrong (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002, lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Richard Noeckel
     (...) First i'd like to thank Tim, Second, WHAT IS UP WITH THE MINI_MINIFIG LEGS?!? Do the Ewoks and Gobblins have half-legs? The heads and tourso/body sections seam normal... But the LEGS, i don't get the legs? Hopefully the high-rez pictures will (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Matthew Gerber
      (...) Stubbies is my guess (can I coin that phrase now, for everyone to use for the rest of time?) [1] This would make sense for the future Yoda figure too. And HP house-elves. And children. And...well, you see the possibilities can go on and on... (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
     
          'Stubbies' (C) Richard Noeckel! —Richard Noeckel
      (...) You sooooo can NOT! I claim infringement of my term… >:-\ I used it first, I put brackets around it… It’s rightfully mine!?! That goes for TLG too! (They can’t use the term with out first consulting me.) Hello, I did initiate the whole (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
     
          Re: 'Stubbies' © Matthew Gerber (Richard's just deluding himself!) —Matthew Gerber
      (...) Oh no, no, no...you said "'stubby' version" in refering to the minifig legs...I actually used the all inclusive term "Stubbies©" [1] to indicate the same, but in an entirely more elegant way. I also, of course, footnoted "Stubbies©" [1] with (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002, lugnet.fun)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Dave Lovelace
      (...) They're doing the same thing for the Ewoks (and Yoda someday?) that they do for Anakin and Harry and all child-sized characters since the beginning. They're going to just make them the same damn size as everyone else. Looking at the flying (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Leah Cardaci
     (...) I don't think this is the case. If you look at the new Harry Potter sets, the goblins look shorter than mini-figs. Notice the tallest to shortest line up of Hargrid(creator fig), Harry(mini-fig), and the goblin(mini mini-fig?). It appears that (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Dave Low
     (...) New piece spotting. Check out the eleven-a-side soccer field (3425): (URL) like a rather cool new "sliding" field piece. And if you've already got a field, I think there's a couple in 3421. --DaveL (who will be buying multiples of 7139, Tiny (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Arne Lykke Nielsen
     (...) Check the "Drone" figure in Alha Team - isn't that a new, more fierce skeleton head?!?? Arne (who dislikes the new canopy's - heritage from Jack Stone!) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Richard Marchetti
      (...) I think it's just a regular skeleton head inside of an Insectoids trans-antifreeze helmet. But did you notice that the names of Radia and Cam are matched to the wrong images? -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
     
          Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Allen Carley
      (...) Looking at the eyes, they don't look like the normal circle (I pulled out the old catalog(ue)s and compared). So, yes, I'd say a more evil skeleton head and one I swear I've seen somewhere before. Maybe not Allen D. Carley - who doesn't care (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Tony Hafner
     (...) In defense of the new canopies... For the first time in a while, they designed a new canopy that actually matches existing piece geometry. A 2-stud 45-degree front angle matches perfectly with the very common 3x3 plate w/o corner and the 3x6 (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Jon Palmer
     (...) critical (...) I too like the new canopies. Always good to have new types of these. And in trans brown and red too! I'm mildly dissapointed that they don't have a hinge on the back. I miss the old days with canopies that connected to a 1x4 (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —John Radtke
     Whoohoo! Anyone else notice Obi-Wan's braid is printed on his shirt? So much for a new hair piece. I don't need more brown hair, I need more brown SW hoods. Maybe we'll see another for under $50 this spring. Love the troll! I want to see that with a (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Tony Hafner
     (...) Yes, the printed rat-tail is a serious disappointment. (...) I wouldn't place bets on the Hagrid beard fitting the troll, although it would definitely be cool. I'm thinking that a dinosaur tail-tip would look great coming out the top of his (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Benjamin Medinets
     (...) That is my feeling as well. Let's hope the summer line-up has more to do with town. More specificly, something that has to do with classic-style town. Ben (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.town)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Josh Baakko
     I'm a townie & trainaic, who's now drooling, the racers have Red Bald Tyre Wheels! (URL) Look at #4582! New fire engine work? wheres the regular wheel in red!? I also see Green Large Tyre Wheels! More army products? Josh (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002, lugnet.town, lugnet.build.military)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Will Hess
     (...) Mmmmm....that fender assembly over the rear wheels of set 4582 looks promising too. Needs Brasso though :-) The red spoiler in 4593 ((URL) looks useful too. Will Bricksburg Fire Department: www.bricksburg.org GoB Bricksburg Depot: (URL) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002, lugnet.town, lugnet.build.military)
    
         Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Gary E. Blessing
     but look close at 4594.... there is a new special piece with a fig head and helmet! Can't they just use a mini fig?!?!? Juniorization is going way too far. Gary Will Hess <nchokie@ripline.com> wrote in message news:GM1Iur.JAL@lugnet.com... (...) (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002, lugnet.town, lugnet.build.military)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Magnus Lauglo
     The new alpha team looks great, much better than the ones we have had so far. These are the kinds of sets that may inspire me to try to build spaceshps again, as lego doesn't seem to be catering to my castle needs much in 2002. Love the new (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Daniel L. Massicotte
     (...) As far as it goes, I think the Droidekas are quite pathetic. However grey battle droids will be nice for a change. Yes, I totally agree that those of us who are not Harry Potter Fans are suffering-hopefully temporarily! (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Jonathan Mizner
      I am somewhat disappointed by the Cloud Car. It looks like it is indeed all in one color, but I can't tell if it is original red or a new shade. The major disappointment to me is that they do not have enclosed cockpits. It appears the Cloud Car (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Where?! —David Simmons
     Where the heck is the news tab? Can someone explain to me how to find it? This is the second time someone has posted that there were new pictures on FBTB (the time before being the RBR info), and I couldn't find them even after clicking on (...) (23 years ago, 2-Nov-01, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: Where?! —Gary E. Blessing
      the news is strait dow the middle of the page....., its hard to miss the links to the pics. G David Simmons <xenobuzz@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:GM5J7v.2nL@lugnet.com... (...) this (...) (23 years ago, 2-Nov-01, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: Where?! —James Brown
      (...) Hmm. There is no news tab that I'm aware of; if you click the link below and scroll down the page, you'll find it. The "news" that Kevin is talking about is the front page of FBTB, at least how I see it. It's the announcment that starts: "LEGO (...) (23 years ago, 2-Nov-01, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: Where?! —Kevin Johnston
     Hi David-- As suggested in another follow-up, by "news" I really just meant the front page, though I was leaving open the possibility that someone might see this thread after the item scrolled off the front page, which is why I phrased it as "news (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.starwars)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Lou Zucaro
     Actually, that big Alpha Team base looks like it has potential to be really nice. Everything else looks pretty terrible...yeah, it's nice to get some of those SW figs in smaller sets, but can you actually build anything with any of them? Sheesh. Lou (...) (23 years ago, 2-Nov-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
   
        Re: 2002 catalog scans at FBTB —Aaron West
   (...) Oooo...ooo!!!...!!! Okay, I have to accept that the classic Town, Space, Castle & Pirate division of product has long since changed. They are still around from the old Shop @ Home occasionally, but TLC did a NICE job on the new Alpha Team (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-01, to lugnet.year.2002)
 

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