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Re: BrickWorld 2007 - who's getting paid?
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Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:15:41 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickworld, John Neal wrote:
   I’m just curious: what leads you to think that this type of information should be public knowledge? It’s as if you believe that fest organizers are somehow obligated to account for every penny to the GP, and AFOLs in particular. Do you suspect that such people are somehow ripping off AFOLs who attend?

And if they do make money off of an event, is that somehow a Bad Thing™?

Mostly, I think it comes down to community volunteers. Lots of people out there were viewing this purely from an attendee standpoint. And yes, from an attendee standpoint, who cares if the ‘fest is for-profit or not? If you get your money’s worth, it’s worth spending it!

But the problem creeps up on you when you start realizing that it’s NOT purely an attendee event. If you’re a volunteer, the situation is a bit different.

I’ve given this example before, so I’ll give it again, because I think it’s relevant. I volunteered to organize a Lego Game Show for BF’04. Great fun. And I wanted to have prizes. Question was, where should the money come from for those prizes? BrickFest or my pocket? If it’s a for-profit event, I would be much less likely to volunteer my own money. I might still do it, but odds are I won’t. BUT, if it’s a non-profit event, I’m actually far more likely to just front the cash myself.

The question comes down to whether the community should be contributing to the event, or whether everyone should just say “Ok BrickFest/BrickWorld, impress us without any community assistance”.

And it’s not really about numbers. I don’t really care that much if the answer is “profits go here” instead of “xxxx profits went here”. The question is mostly *where* the profits go, not how *much* goes there. Sure, it’s nice to know the numbers, but knowing the numbers probably won’t affect a decision to volunteer as much as knowing the destination.

DaveE



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  Re: BrickWorld 2007 - who's getting paid?
 
(...) There is that--I mean, once being a member of Boy Scouts for many many years, I know that there was lots of coinage from my pocketbook that went to whatever event I was running/volunteered for and with nary a thought of reimburement. Boy (...) (18 years ago, 15-Mar-07, to lugnet.events.brickworld, FTX)
  Re: BrickWorld 2007 - who's getting paid?
 
(...) If you did this at Brickworld, and BW made money, from what they've said (the quote Marc posted) they would offer to reimburse you for the prize(s). To me, one very important fact is that the organizers of BW have a multi-year contract with (...) (18 years ago, 15-Mar-07, to lugnet.events.brickworld)
  Re: BrickWorld 2007 - who's getting paid?
 
(...) This whole "profit" "non-profit" conversation is a straw man. AFAIK there have never been any "non-profit" organizations putting on LEGO fests. Non-profit is a category of organization with a specific legal status. What this whole thing boils (...) (18 years ago, 15-Mar-07, to lugnet.events.brickworld, FTX)

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  Re: BrickWorld 2007 - who's getting paid?
 
(...) I'm just curious: what leads you to think that this type of information should be public knowledge? It's as if you believe that fest organizers are somehow obligated to account for every penny to the GP, and AFOLs in particular. Do you suspect (...) (18 years ago, 15-Mar-07, to lugnet.events.brickworld, FTX)

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