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Re: BrickWorld 2007 - who's getting paid?
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Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:05:57 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickworld, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.events.brickworld, Marc Nelson Jr. wrote:
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I have no problem with attending a for-profit event as long as I know that
it’s a for-profit event. I would have a problem attending an event that gave
the impression of being non-profit while actually being for-profit.
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How is that impression given, short of actually telling people, “we are a
non-profit organization”. The logistics in creating a non-profit alone are
prohibitive IMO.
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Calling for volunteers does give the impression something is a non-profit, yes.
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I would not volunteer for a for-profit event. You’re right, it is asking a
lot of people to organize these events without compensation. But if you
don’t expect event organizers to work for free, why should volunteers?
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lol, what Al said:-)
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So you’re saying volunteers shouldn’t be compensated, right? I agree with you
there, I just think it should apply to all volunteers involved in an event.
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Financial gain is certainly a worthy reason to put on an AFOL event. So why
not be upfront about it? Don’t you think that the calls for volunteers and
so forth at least give the impression that these events are not being run
for profit?
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Not at all. It is a non sequitur.
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What kind of organizations usually call for volunteers?
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Do you think it’s a good thing for an event to act like a non-profit
if it isn’t?
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Maybe it would be easier for you to think of it this way: people who organize
LEGO fests just hope the event will be well attended and they don’t LOSE
money on the deal. If by coincidence they break even; fine. If, by good
planning and perhaps a little luck they end up in the black, who cares? They
took a risk, and it paid off, as it were, for them. Making a profit wasn’t
the reason they organized the fest, it was a nice by-product. Perhaps you
think that event organizers should spread the wealth around to their
volunteers. I don’t. And volunteers don’t expect it, either. They
certainly don’t expect to share in the financial burden if the event
loses money, or do you think that that should be the case as well? If not,
why not? In for a penny, in for a pound. Might be hard to find volunteers,
however....
And that’s part of the beauty of being a volunteer-- and part of the risk of
being the organizer.
And BTW, what does “acting like a non-profit” even look like? Is it simply
the use of volunteers?
JOHN
FUT ot.debate to mollify Ondrew:-)
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You still haven’t answered why organizers wouldn’t want to let everyone know
that someone is making money off an event. If that’s a good thing - which you
and I and most other people here think it is - why would you want to keep that a
secret?
Marc Nelson Jr.
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Message has 3 Replies:
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| (...) Not to me it doesn't. It gives the impression that the organisation is calling for volunteers. One of the biggest music festivals in Australia uses volunteers for a number of jobs. As an example they work a few hours at the door and in (...) (18 years ago, 15-Mar-07, to lugnet.events.brickworld, FTX)
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| (...) I think I did, listing them numerically, in fact. For example, and to get a little blue-- the sex life of a married couple is a Good Thing™, but that doesn't mean it isn't because they choose not to discuss it in public. Wouldn't you agree? (...) (18 years ago, 15-Mar-07, to lugnet.events.brickworld, FTX)
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| (...) I just had to go search Google for "Non-profit" and the second listing was "Non-Profit jobs at Careerbuilder.com" Who wants a non-profit Job? Do people who work for nonprofit charitable organizations get paid? (...) I have to think a MAJOR (...) (18 years ago, 15-Mar-07, to lugnet.events.brickworld)
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| (...) How is that impression given, short of actually telling people, "we are a non-profit organization". The logistics in creating a non-profit alone are prohibitive IMO. (...) lol, (URL) what Al said>:-) (...) Not at all. It is a non sequitur. (...) (18 years ago, 15-Mar-07, to lugnet.events.brickworld, FTX)
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