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  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) I see what you're saying, but I think you're misunderstanding excluding 'parts' for 'people.' This isn't intended to exclude individuals from the group at Lugnet or from using ldraw.org. Its to keep the Lego brand aspect of LDraw and Lugnet (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) As of this point, I don't think ldraw.org should *host* clone parts packs, but it wouldn't do any harm to link to them off-site. IMASO the site should continue to promote Lego brand parts and editors which use the LDraw format, and not push (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) You're making me hungry, Todd. :) Good analogy. -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in Gosh, you'll go to Heck, where you'll face eternal darnation. (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) Disagree. I remember trying it out Tyco in 1988 and it left a very bitter taste in my mouth -- blyecch -- and at the time I wasn't even a LEGO purist. True, Tyco was the best of the non-LEGO off-brands, but the quality still never quite lived (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
First of all, no one is trying to "pass" any clones as being the real thing. (...) Second, Tyco is NOT "crummy", it's just different. I don't use it but I think you're letting your emotions get in when you toss around "crummy". Tyco made blocks that (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) OK, here's an analogy... Hopefully this will illustrate the purist's point of view and why it's not arbitrary... You go into a restaurant and order big fat juicy third-pound burger with all the fixings, a side of french fries, and a big tall (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) I haven't thought about this much and I can only speak for myself, but when I see water or skies or starry backgrounds, or fire or smoke or sand or anything like that, to me it's just "background stuff" to round out the image -- just as LEGO (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) Dave, remember you're not the problem. You're just the person to bring up an issue that needs to be discussed and worked out for the future of LDraw and ldraw.org. Opinions welcome :) (...) Its good that you're agreeing about the official (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) I've been trying to keep a low profile on this thread after having stirred the pot at the beginning, but now that I think of it, I have a few pseudo- philosophical questions. There've been myriad discussions of the merits and shortcomings of (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) Personally, I wouldn't care one way or the other *intrinsically* if ldraw.org decided to host off-brand elements... What I (personally) would be very sad to see is LEGO stuff being *mixed* with off-brand stuff. That's what I meant by going the (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) I hate to reply just to insert a "me too", but I whole-heartedly agree. And folks (I won't name names) second-guessing James' prejudices without actually having *met* him exhibits more than a fair amount of arrogance, IMHO. The way I (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
I am pretty purist myself and can't see using clones or modeling with them (except in trains if some clone comes along and delivers what most trainheads want at acceptable quality levels), but I repeat my thesis: Why be exclusionary? What's wrong (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Problems with Ldraw related sites
 
Tim: (...) It certainly could be, but it would take some time due to my (slightly paranoid?) view of CGI programs - even those I write myself. I am not sure if the current version just needs some minor fixes or a complete rewrite based on lessons (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw update? last was 9905. 6 months ago
 
(...) Tom, Steve Bliss has taken over Terry's position at Terry's request. As far as I understand, 9907 (or 2000-01) is in the works. -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in Gosh, you'll go to Heck, where you'll face eternal (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  ldraw update? last was 9905. 6 months ago
 
ive noticed there has been no update for... ( heart attack , keels over... ) ... 6 months. if the developement of ldraw can progress, someone needs to pacage up 9906's parts and give them to tim C. , or jacob. someones gotta pickup where terry left (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Problems with Ldraw related sites
 
(...) Question- Should the Parts Tracker be moved to ldraw.org? IMO it would be more accessible and easier to use there, and the site is a natural location for such a utility. Just a question/suggestion, not pushing anything. It would be nice for it (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  ldraw.org Winter Goals
 
Its time to make another thrust forward in the development of ldraw.org, and the winter season is the perfect time for it. So far, we've gotten the site up and its been a success. LDraw now has a permanent home and dedicated website to the cause. (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.org.us)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) I read that page and I don't recall 'Lego' being mentioned once. But your interpretation is correct. (...) The 'Centralized LDraw Resources' is, but the meaning behind it is subject to change. (...) Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! You've proven (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) Reading the (URL) page, I always thought it was just assumed (in the "commonly understood" sense) that the purpose of ldraw.org was to unify LDraw things that were specifically LEGO-related (i.e., not for non-LEGO stuff). But maybe that's just (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) I agree. Happy Thanksgiving! -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 You know what you'll never see?? A fat Chinese man with flaming red hair running full speed while taking a crap. -Tom Ace (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) Good observations. A program optimized for K'Nex and a K'Nex parts library would benefit the fans of K'Nex, but again, LDraw should focus on Lego brand products. If the ldraw.org /non-lego/ section *is* added, how much exposure should such a (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) It would probably work well in the renderers, but you would need to create a new editor (LEdit type program) optimized for K'Nex pieces instead of LEGO pieces... You would probably have to use a smaller scale, too, because K'nex constructions (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) It would make sense to package the clone parts together by brand. (...) Good thought. It probably wound work quite well, just like Lego. My remaining opinion is - try to stay with the original intention of LDraw, and lets not let it be (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) That's what I was thinking. It would actually be kinda cool to have various files for different brands. A "Tyco Parts Pack" and a "Coco Brick Parts Pack", and etc. -- Steve I've always wondered how well K'nex would work in LDraw. (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) Sure would. (...) You're probably more right than I am here. Afterall, it promotes LDraw, and the point of ldraw.org is a centralized resource. Not allowing non-Lego LDraw models on the site would be contradicting that charter and encouraging (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
[ FUT lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw and lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands. This does not (imo) belong in lugnet.cad.dev, so please stop cross-posting to that group. ] Dave Schuler: (...) That would certainly be a possibility, but if you accept to use the (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) Hmm.. Maybe I could reduce the controversy and hassle if I just put together a site of my own (Geocites and Xoom are free, right?) and put any pertinent clone info there instead of taking up space on one of the more official sites. If I were (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
[ FUT lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw and lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands ] Tim (citing Jacob): (...) Correct. (...) If somebody wants to do the work, it is worth the work. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) Sure, I'd help. But *practically* <grin> how would it fit in? Would there be a 'Non-Lego' main section of the site as in (URL) Because it can't go under /download/updates/ - that's saved for official L-CAD [1] parts updates. I don't think it (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
[ XFUT lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw and lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands ] Dave Schuler: I don't think I would ever use clone parts (as in shape, not necessarily as in producer) myself, but I definitely think that we should admit that LDraw can be used for (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
 
  Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
(...) They are clearly different situations. Both sites are led by individuals. In Todd's case with Lugnet, he does own it and can make decisions on his own about what happens to it without room for question. In my case with ldraw.org, I serve as (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Backing up other people's web sites? (Was: Problems with Ldraw related sites)
 
[ XFUT lugnet.publish ] Manfred Moolhuysen: [...] (...) [...] This reminds me of the problems I run into now and then, when websites I link to disappear (not saying that the LDraw Parts Tracker is disappearing). Should I offer people to keep a (...) (25 years ago, 23-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: Problems with Ldraw related sites
 
(...) Yes, that did the trick, it's working again But the the LDraw Parts Tracker is not working still. Last week I've send a message to Zachary Benz his personal address about this. I haven't recieved a reply from him jet. Is his status known to (...) (25 years ago, 23-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Problems with Ldraw related sites
 
Manfred: (...) [...] It is my fault. I tried to optimise the web server, and forgot to check if everything worked after the change. It should have been fixed now. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- (...) (25 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Problems with Ldraw related sites
 
Hello all, Somehow I can't get into www.ldraw.org anymore. when I try I recieve an error message like: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /contact.html on this server. When I use the link from the lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw newsgroup page, (...) (25 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Model of the Month
 
(...) Thanks! I'm very happy with the model and the picture. Of course, that was the only time L3P has ever worked for me. :) I think most of us can guess which two or three are in the lead. :) (...) So, uh, vote for my model and get $1000!! Yeah, (...) (25 years ago, 29-Oct-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Model of the Month
 
(...) Yeah there's some stiff competition, from the stats as of now it looks like two or three of the models will be competing neck-and-neck (I won't say which ones). Jeff, your A-Wing model *does* rock :) (...) Hee... Um, I forgot to announce it I (...) (25 years ago, 27-Oct-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Model of the Month
 
(...) Yeeouch! Talk about stiff competition for A-Wing! Look at that Statue of Isis! Amazing! I guess I won't be winning this month, especially when there are so many better models to choose from! I'm also gonna have a hard time voting! Pardon me (...) (25 years ago, 27-Oct-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Planned downtime for ldraw.org
 
www.ldraw.org and hugin.ldraw.org will be off-line for 10-15 minutes Monday 25th of October. It will happen sometime between 06 and 16 UTC, when the machine is moved to another location (just next door). Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: (...) (25 years ago, 22-Oct-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  [ldraw.org] Model of the Month
 
I have just added the Model of the Month pages to ldraw.org. We're going to shoot for the first award being given for November. Entries are being accepted until Monday October 25, and voting will take place until Sunday October 31. The winning entry (...) (25 years ago, 20-Oct-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Freeware LEGO Software in an German Computer magazine
 
I promised to keep an eye on the server statistics on the LDraw web site now that the LEGO CAD programs were mentioned in c'T[1]. I didn't keep a close enough eye on the development, so one day of log files were lost due to a full /var partition. (...) (25 years ago, 19-Oct-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Freeware LEGO Software in an German Computer magazine
 
(...) :) It does translate it a little funny, but gets the point across :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Bumper Sticker: 'I'd punch you in the face, but [poo] splatters.' (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.general, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Freeware LEGO Software in an German Computer magazine
 
(...) article? (URL) - jsproat (25 years ago, 12-Oct-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.general, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Freeware LEGO Software in an German Computer magazine
 
(...) That's great! Um, is there a way to get an English translation of the article? -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Bumper Sticker: 'I'd punch you in the face, but [poo] splatters.' (25 years ago, 12-Oct-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Freeware LEGO Software in an German Computer magazine
 
Ardjan: (...) Cool! I have to keep an eye on the server statistics now. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 12-Oct-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Signed up for MindFest
 
I'm so happy! I have to post this list. From the online LEGO community, we have some great representation signed up for MindFest at MIT. Names marked with a (*) are guest speakers. NELUG will have an exhibit table and a welcoming evening. LDraw (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.events, lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos, lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org up and running again (Was: ldraw.org down until Monday)
 
(...) Hey, a huge "BTW" round of thanks for Jacob and Tim and Todd and anyone else in the admin role...the online world wouldn't run without you! :-, Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  ldraw.org up and running again (Was: ldraw.org down until Monday)
 
As I promised Friday: ldraw.org is up and running again thanks to a friend of mine who installed a new kernel on hugin. Play well, Jacob PS: I have recieved a message from the Danish backbone operator, warning me that the connection to Risø will be (...) (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.announce)
 
  Re: ldraw.org Model of the Month
 
(...) If a "list of what was chosen, selected or inputted as text, mailed to a specified address" sort of form result is sufficient for your uses, you needn't even do that. See: (URL) view source for the page, or copy the page to your own server and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org Model of the Month
 
(...) You're basically looking for the same voting script that Todd uses on lugnet's cool site of the week page ((URL) right? Why not just ask him for the source and adapt it to your uses? Adrian -- (URL) (25 years ago, 25-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  ldraw.org Model of the Month
 
Yet another mini-project that can enhance ldraw.org... I remember talking about the Model of the Month feature and plans for it, but discussion fizzled. I think we can get this up and running in a few days if we recall what was discussed and if (...) (25 years ago, 25-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org down until Monday (was: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?)
 
(...) [...] (...) Todd beat me to the punch I see :) Well, sorry guys for this unexpected inconvenience. -Tim ldraw.org Project Coordinator (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  ldraw.org down until Monday (was: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?)
 
(...) Jacob asked me to post the following message... --Todd ___...___ From: Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@cats.nbi.dk> Message-Id: <199909241830.UAA100...ts.nbi.dk> Subject: ldraw.org down until monday To: lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman) Date: (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.announce)
 
  Re: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
(...) LOL :) (...) No prob. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
(...) Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Patience -- how long will *THAT* take?!? :-, Thanks for the quick reply, Tim! Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
(...) The immediate response is from me bein online when I got the mail :) - and I'm not responsible for the server... And yeah, sometimes I wish I wasn't the person :) -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tim Courtney writes: {SNIP} (...) Thank you, sir. Always nice (1) to get immediate feed-back from a responsible person and (2) not have to -be- that person <grin>. Cheers, Roger (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
(...) I can't get through either. Knowing the reliability of Hugin, it should only be a temporary thing. Sorry for the inconvenience, try to be patient :) -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
(...) Greetings... Same problem here, from behind a firewall, which I thought might be the problem. I need to inspect the FAQ and keep getting a path failure. Cordially, Roger (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
Has anyone else been having problems lately getting to ldraw.org ? Pinging risulp1. and rishp1.risoe.dk (the DNS servers) times out. Please please please let this be temporary...! Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: new Windows-based Lego CAD program
 
(...) Looks like a nice description! Can't wait to see it come out and get a chance to try it out :) Chances are, cool stuff like this probably will get a writeup on ldraw.org like MLCad did. Keep it up! :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (...) (25 years ago, 17-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) Well, my plans on the MOC archive on ldraw.org are pretty loose and open-ended. I have no set pattern for what should go up there, except maybe a say in the way it is laid out on the page itself. I was planning to base everything in the MOC (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
Well there is no need to duplicate effort, so if someone else already had that idea I'll let them run with it. KL (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
[ Crossposted to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw ] Kevin Loch: (...) I think you should discuss this with Tim Courtney. He has plans for a similar service at ldraw.org based on the lugnet.dat groups. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
John VanZwieten: (...) Yes. (...) It could be done, but it would demand a bit of patience from the visitors. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
John VanZwieten: [ ... ] (...) You send me a nice letter asking for an account on my server (remember to use my real address - "reply to author" will not work). (...) FTP. (...) It depends on what you mean by an HTML editor. There is no program that (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) Hey John, If you wanted a really quick & simple way to make updates, we could make you a special /cad/datsville/ area on www.lugnet.com and you could use the new page editing system. For example, I put together this demo page in about 10 (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@sys-323.risoe.dk> wrote in message news:FHoLu1.H5H@lugnet.com... (...) Can you explain how this would work? Would this just let me upload the pov files then run them on the server? As this thing gets bigger, that would (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
Bram Lambrecht <BramL@JUNO.com> wrote in message news:FHp05w.9s8@lugnet.com... (...) What do I have to do to make this happen? I'm willing to give it a try. What options are there for uploading files to www.ldraw.org? Is there an html editor there, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
You could start with a vew simple views. A "map" overhead view would be the next step, then perhaps "north,south,east and west" views. (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:37d53ba8.137228...net.com... (...) This is without a doubt the Holy Grail for Datsville (and display of Ldraw files in general.) POV animation is a start, but something more along the (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) Plus, it would open the door to advanced features for Datsville, to allow users more interactive viewing. Right now, with only a few buildings, the single view is great (BTW, you did a nice layout, John!). But if Datsville really grows, it (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) Another plus: www.ldraw.org/datsville/ is a much nicer (and easier to remember) URL than www.geocities.com/He...ville.html I'm all for the move, but it's up to John Van. --Bram (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
Tore Eriksson: [ hosting Datsville at ldraw.org ] (...) + Some of us do get those annoying pop-up windows[1]. + I believe I can offer a bit more space than GeoCities. + It would be possible to do the renderings on the server. - The ldraw.org server (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) Interquick is not freeware, and can be purchased at (URL) <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 'You have a pretty sexy voice for being a Lego maniac.' - Matt Dearman, while talking to me on the phone (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
Are those freeware programs, if so, where can they be obtained?? Thanks Ryan ***...*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***...*** (...) annoying (...) and (...) to (...) should (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) Which reminds me, I've gotta reinstall Interquick, which is another very nice filter of banner ads and popup windows. It crashed some time ago and I haven't gotten around to getting a new copy of it. As for Datville on ldraw.org, I don't much (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) I don't see any benifit. (Thanks to WebWasher, I don't get those most annoying pop-up windows from sites like GeoCities). Of course, Datsville must be linked to from ldraw.org, but why move it? /Tore (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) Well, jeez, I updated three days in a row last week, watta ya expect? ;-) Actually, the Datsville stuff is on my office machine, which is why I haven't gotten to do an update this 3-day weekend. I'm hoping to get in today and add what's been (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) That is really neat! Today is the first I heard of Datsville, nice work! (...) Not a bad idea, would add a nice touch and all. I'm open to it, anyone else? -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 'You have a pretty sexy voice for being a Lego (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
Hey, your not alone. I've been checking it at least once a day since the whole thing came about. :) Ryan ***...*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***...*** (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
John VanZwieten: How often can we expect updated views of Datsville? I can probably just as well admit that I impatiently have checked the Datsville web site[1] regularly the whole weekend. Play well, Jacob PS: Does it make sense to host Datsville (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET, REV 1.1
 
(...) Some of us think there is, and some of us, (including many stalwarts) feel they've been trying for many many months and have exhausted all the other alternatives. I dunno who is right, which is one reason why I suspect a vote was taken. I (...) (25 years ago, 23-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET, REV 1.1
 
In article <FGxBz2.D9F@lugnet.com>, John VanZwieten <john_vanzwieten@ema il.msn.com> writes (...) No problem :-) I'm not currently interested in the CAD groups, and this vote came as a bit of a shock. Bearing in mind the good nature of the people (...) (25 years ago, 23-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET, REV 1.1
 
Tony Priestman <Tony@you-rang.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:Xy5anEAMzAw3EwE...n.co.uk... (...) _PLEASE_ NOTE: All the lugnet.cad* groups invite novices who want help honing their skills. Those of us who author parts _love_ to guide newbies in (...) (25 years ago, 23-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
(...) Than that's not a problem with ldraw.org, that's a problem with the server Mike's pages are on. I can upload my copy of mlcad13.zip to ldraw.org and have two download location choices - he ok'ed the download from ldraw.org. I'll make a note of (...) (25 years ago, 21-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
(...) I agree. -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Commonwealth Edison: What do you do with OUR power? Get paid to surf the web! Visit: (URL) (25 years ago, 21-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
(...) Why? Seems to me that changing to white or grey or blue, if it meant approval from TLG would be no big deal... Red is the color they use for most everything brickish. (...) Probably would in fact be trade dress, as would every other thing (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
The links to the MLCAD page and download are not connecting. Pat J (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
The links to mlcad page and program aren't connecting. (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
(...) I thought about that. The problem is, ldraw.org *doesn't* do pieces which aren't real-world LEGO. Funny colors, maybe. Fake pieces, never. Steve (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
(...) I suggest capitalizing LEGO in the linking image and adding the (R), otherwise, great job! --Bram (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:37bd7e8a.724234...net.com... (...) But we could design our own keyboard tile (w/ all the letters even) and a computer screen w/ a 2X3 brick on it! But you'd still have the problem with (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
(...) Playing with it in photoshop should actually work pretty well. Just shift the hue to get blue, you won't even have to play with saturation. --Bram (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
(...) Like, right underneath the logo-bar. How about: "This site is better than official! It's [fan created], and The LEGO Group has nothing to do with!" Steve (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
(...) The more I think about it, I think a simple letter would do. But first I think we should experiment a bit with different logos and present them printed on the letter so they can review them right there and state their preference. Once I get (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
(...) On the small logos it probably would not work, so another solution would have to be devised for that. (...) I'd prefer to keep it red. I don't think a wireframe fade would be considered under TLG's trade dress if a squabble arose. (...) I (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
(...) Well, if we were to contact TLG, what would be the best approach to it, to get on their good side? I'm not totally objected to contacting them, I just would like to make sure we've done everything we can to have them not jump on us beforehand. (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
(...) Personally I didn't think twice about the Adequate.com red brick on the button. 1) I don't see it around that often and 2) to me the red 2x2 doesn't represent TLG (but to some it may). (...) Thanks :) Uhm, the 6982 was intended to be a (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Update
 
(...) I'm not sure how well that image would work as a small icon. But it would be cool. As long as it was a color other than red, it would probably be OK. A plain wireframe brick would be good as a logo, as well. Particularly if it did the (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish)


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