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(...) It should be. (...) Kevin (20 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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Hi Kevin, (...) It does, at least for me. But I have problems with transparent parts in the layouts: (URL) the POVed images are OK: (URL) with a nice background color see through. Another problem is that I can't get LDView generate meaningful (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Hi Philo, That is very interesting. I'll try these cases here. It looks like POV-Ray is providing an alpha channel that is not completely opaque. I didn't think it did this. It should be easy to fix I think. (...) The LDView and LDGLight parts (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) It does it... and well: (URL) (composited with Photoshop) (...) OK... I hope you'll get that working, I tend to prefer LDView style for instructions (should be faster too). Ah, another minor point: it would be nice if LPub remembered the last (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) Hi Kevin, Is this really a problem? It strikes me that this is the 'proper' behaviour for a 24bit raytraced image. I would prefer an option to switch off the alpha as sometimes I may wish to use this feature (eg. if I had a white background (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) LPub 2.3.0.2 is available. It fixes the problem Philo discovered with transparency and layouts. Kevin (20 years ago, 14-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) Hi Kevin. I want to fix LDView so that the camera angle and what-not matches the L3P output as closely as possible. However, I can't seem to get LPub to use LDView as a renderer. I select LDView.exe from the list on the Renderer tab, and then (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) LPub has LDView render popped down, so you don't see the window pop up. I was trying to render (URL) using LDView. Not only is there a problem with the lens angle and such, LDView doesn't handle hoses generated by LSynth very well. They look (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) Actually, I added a MessageBox call to the very beginning of LDView so that I could attach a debugger. It never showed up, and L3P ran and generated POV files, so I really don't think it's running LDView for me. (...) I'll take a look. (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) <snip> (...) I fixed a few LPub problems with LDView, and got some instructions out. They look great! It seems that there are some problems with LSynth hoses and LDView. They render nicely under the offical LDView, but not under beta. Except (...) (20 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) <snip> (...) I fixed a few LPub problems with LDView, and got some instructions out. They look great! It seems that there are some problems with LSynth hoses and LDView. They render nicely under the offical LDView, but not under beta. Except (...) (20 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) Hi Kevin, Can I join in the fun? Say I want to run a minimal setup of LPub with only ldglite as the renderer. I had this going a while back, but the latest version won't even let me get started. I get the dialog box with "Cannot find POV-Ray, (...) (20 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) This bug in LPub (requiring POV-Ray) will be fixed *very* soon. I've been wrestling with ldglite as well, but I'm having problems getting the command line option for saving the file and exiting does not seem to work (or, more probably, I've (...) (20 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) new LSynth soon so people can have this fix. Travis sent me a updated beta LDView, so I re-rendered pedmatic, and all the hoses look great. IMHO, LDView (and soon ldglite) is a superior solution to POV-RAY and MEGAPOV. The MEGAPOV solution is (...) (20 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) If you were having trouble getting good renders I certainly could see why you wouldn't like it! But these tired eyes have lots of trouble with instructions even WITH the thick black edge lines. (20 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) You're welcome. Just to check, LDView still doesn't generate exactly the same viewing angle as L3P, right? (That was next on my list of things to fix.) Also, it's worth noting that the -SaveAlpha=1 command line setting in LDView 3 might have (...) (20 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) And what I meant to say, and somehow forgot is that I'll be looking into that as well, and trying to fix it. --Travis (20 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) It looked good in the pedmatic instructions. (...) Correct. No transparent parts in pedmatic. (...) Kevin (20 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) I just rendered James' car.dat and it looked good when the transparent parts are in the model with other bricks, but when I render the transparent parts individually for PLIs, they come up blank. Thanks, Kevin (20 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) After some fixes in LPub, I got ldGlite renderer working with LPub! The images are comparable to LDView, but ldGlite renders blindingly fast! I rendered all the images for pedmatic in less than 5 minutes. Amazing. (URL) seems to be a bit of a (...) (20 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Thanks! (although I thought I asked for LDLite, but I forget, besides this one is multiplatform!) Overall it looks great! However I have a nit, (perhaps???)... In (for example) (URL) this> image: (URL) I'm wondering: is there a bit of an (...) (20 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) It's not your eyes. I think this artifact is visible in *every* parts box. Maybe a bug in ldGLite when rendering a single part? The single parts are also clipped on the left side, the leftmost edge line is missing (or at least thinned) (...) (20 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Possibly. (...) Yeah, I noticed this too, but I haven't been able to capture the exact ldglite command line and temporary .ldr file used by lpub to render a single part for the BOM. Lpub seems to delete them, and I'm not sure if I can keep (...) (20 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I got the command line by putting a MessageBox call at the very beginning of the main entry point for LDView. Then, I manually attached a debugger to the process when the message box appeared. This lets you debug. --Travis (20 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Actually it was a bug in LPub. ldglite pre-crops the image to the smallest enclosing rectangle. LPub didn't expect this, applied its own crop routine, and added artifacts. Also this pre-cropping is why ldglite process is much faster than (...) (20 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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In lugnet.cad, Kevin L. Clague wrote: I just timed rendering of all the pedmatic construction step images and part list images and the process took less than 3 minutes! Amazing. After I debug ldglite and ldview on windows 98, then I'll work on the (...) (20 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Yeah, I can never remember how to attach gdb to a running process, so that one isn't in my usual bag of tricks. I'll have to try harder to remember it next time. Fortunately for me, Kevin already found the bug in lpub. :^) Don (20 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Blazingly fast indeed... But I can't get it render complete images: (URL) (LPub 2.3.0.6, LdGLite 1.1.6, Windows 2000). Any hint? TIA, Philo (20 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Yes, and we have a fix. LPub automatically centers the 3D model about the origin. ldglite draws the origin at 2/3 of the way down the window, so it ends up rendering it partially off screen. You can manually work around this by using the (...) (20 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I think it's probably because ldglite defaults to the 2/3 screen offset used by LDRAW and ldlite, while l3p defaults to the center of the screen. You might be able to work around it (for now) by providing an offset in the ldglite command line (...) (20 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Hi, I've released a fix for this problem. It is available as 2_3_0_7. www.kclague.net://LPub (...) Kevin (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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Time for me to come in! First of all: being able to render with LDView and LDGLite is GREAT!!! However I have a problem: I cannot seem to be able to render in isometric view in LDView and no images are generated using LDGLite. Can you, Kevin, or (...) (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Works fine now! (I have yet to find how to change layout page dimensions, but I guess I have to plunge deeper in documentation...) Thanks ;o) Philo (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I had the same problem that I solved by removing the -Z90000 default LdGLite user option (perhaps it was previous install dregs). Philo (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Thank goodness someone else had this problem. I spent hours last night trying to solve both of these issues and was beginning to feel very stupid as noone else had reported the same problem. Perhaps Kevin could post the .lpb file (hope I (...) (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Are you *sure* you have erased the part image cache? In case you are using Windows pre 2000, it has problems. I've got to debug that. If you're savvy with the system, and are willing to dig in, it would be a big help. Drop me a note and I'll (...) (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Thanks! I was hoping you'de pop in here soon! (...) Run LDView outside LPub, and edit/save your preferences. I don't think that the preferences have anything to do with view angle though. LPub communicates that to LDVIew (and ldglite) through (...) (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Is it still there in 2.3.0.7? It was supposed to be removed..... Maybe I removed it and saved a .lpb. I'll check when I get home. Yes. removing the -Z90000 is critical. LPub now figures out a value for this on the fly. Thanks for mentioning it (...) (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Here's what I did to get LDView to work. First, you need to be using LDView 3 Beta 1. LPub won't work right with LDView 2.x. In LDView, go into preferences, then to the Preference Sets tab, and create a preference set named LPub. Apply that (...) (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Bug report: (This happens in every version I've tried, by the way.) When you do the Generate->CSIs, PLIs and BOM, and then go do other things on your computer, LPub uses 100% CPU on the machine once it's finished, and has the progress panel (...) (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Mangled URL alert! Try here: (URL) also added a link on the main ldglite site. Look for the "Beta Version" windows executable. Enjoy, Don (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Maybe I saved a global config, that was preserved "as is" through updates? Philo (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Yes. (...) Kevin (20 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Hi Kevin, I'm using Windows XP Pro so I can't help with testing on 2000 but anyway I had installed older versions of ldview and ldglite anyway and the problem seems to have gone away with the new ones. There is still little bit of a problem (...) (20 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) ldglite crops the images before writing them to a file. LPub does no cropping when rendering with ldglite. When rendering with LDView, LPub crops the images. Which renderer were you using when you see the cropping problem? (...) You're (...) (20 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) It was rendered with LDview and parts [LDrawPart 3957:0], [LDrawPart 104:15] and [LDrawPart 4215a:39] are cut (3957 and 104 at the top and 4215a at the bottom). I note that the two cut at the top are tall and thin whilst that cut at the bottom (...) (20 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) Yes, the crop routine only checks the alpha channel when cropping. LPub used to crop using the RGB channels, but alpha channel is much more reliable. That is one of the many reasons I liked transparency. I'll check to make sure I don't have a (...) (20 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) Please note that the LDView beta will make transparent parts 100% transparent due to a problem with its alpha channel handling. That means that the entire transparent part will be cropped away unless you have edge lines turned on (and (...) (20 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) It may be common to all recent releases, but I've found when rendering with ldview or ldglite (havent tested with pov-ray, but can't remember the problem) if the lpub\ldraw sub-directory doesn't already exist I get an error. If I create it (...) (20 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Just tested it and that seems to fix the problem. Looks a whole lot better too. Tim (20 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) Great! One thing you do have to keep in mind when using LDView as the renderer is that LDView's background color will show through transparent pieces to some extent. The LPub background will also show through, but the color calculation that (...) (20 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) I agree, but I would suggest calling it something more like "Restore Defaults" to avoid confusion. A "set default" button might be misinterpreted to mean that the current settings will be saved as the default settings. --Travis (20 years ago, 21-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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Using LPub 2.3.0.7 and ldGLite 1.0.7 and removed that -Z9000 stuff, I still am unable to create images on my PC at home. Though ldGLite is working fine manually and LPub is doing something, no images are created. I managed to do so on my PC at (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) ldglite 1.0.7 is too old to work with lpub. Get the newer beta version. (URL) (20 years ago, 24-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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LOL My mistake... :-( Having read that indeed I needed a higher version, I must have thought 1.0.7 was 1.1.6. I actually E-mailed the wrong zip file from work to home... Ofcourse it works now and beginning to understand how to set things up to make (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) What version of Windows are you using? (...) My LPub preferences in LDView are General Antialiasing: 16x Antialiased lines Checked Background color: White Transparent checked Geometry Seam Width: Checked 0.5 BFC: checked Edge Lines: checked (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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I have a few comments about some of the settings. (...) In case it's not clear, the Transparent check box makes default-colored items transparent; it does NOT make the background transparent. That can only be done on the command line (which LPub (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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I just noticed a minor bug. For reasons that I don't understand, my layout images are being generated at 800x600, even though I changed all the 800x600 dimensions in the config file to 1280x960. (That's not the bug; I assume I'm just missing (...) (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) You are missing: LPUB PAGE SIZE <width> <height> (...) You are right. I'll look into that. (...) Kevin (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Gentlemen (Kevin & Travis :-) I thank you for these! I will certainly try it out. Jaco (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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P.S. Would you mind sharing the settings for LPub as well? (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) LPub settings are the defaults. Kevin (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I assume I can reset these by deleting all config files (*.lpb) (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Yes. Kevin (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I did delete ALL *.lpb on my computer, and was able to generate ucogv instructions using pov3.1 renderer: (URL) only small problem I had was that I needed to increase layout size (added line "0 LPUB PAGE SIZE 1200 900" in ucogv.mpd file) Then, (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Another possibility is to increase camera distance. This effectivly renders the images smaller. I used 50000 for ucogv. (...) I'll try it out. (...) Hmm... I'll have to look this up..... LPub should copy all the original files to LPub/LDraw (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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Hi Kevin, Thanks for your answers... (...) Indeed (I just tried), this problem doesn't appear with MLCad or notepad. But I can't save when using another text editor (Textpad) or LDdesignPad. (...) Thanks... (see here: (URL) why I asked for (...) (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I found and fixed this problem. (...) I checked my Inno setup, and indeed I did not include LPub.html. I have uploaded a new LPub2.3.0.8 to make sure you have all the correct documentation. (...) (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Works fine now. (...) My LPub about box correctly states 2.3.0.8, but unfortunately, LPub.html is still not there :-( Philo (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Um...... Please re-get 2.3.0.8. (...) Kevin (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Got it this time! Thanks a lot for your efforts! Philo (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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In lugnet.cad, Philippe Hurbain wrote: <snip> (...) Fixed. Released. (...) Added. Not released. (...) Documentation made available. Kevin (19 years ago, 28-May-05, to lugnet.cad)
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