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(...) Brickshelf.com is not going away, at least not if I can help it. I am working with someone to rehost the instruction scans, and they will be in their new home as soon as we can get them moved and they can get the necessary permission from (...) (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general) !!
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(...) Thanks, Kevin! That message about transferring files to maj.com made it sound like the galleries were going away, too. Is there anything we can do to help? I've already donated, but would be happy to add to my donation if there's a funding (...) (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) The web is wonderful but it ain't permanent or free. If the people who use brickshelf think so much of it (and I have always been impressed with it), then they should be willing to pay for a subscription to upload and download images. Or have (...) (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I'd certainly be for micropayments for uploading images. I don't know how many images are uploaded each day/week/month, but at $.01 each, I should think the income might add up, yet wouldn't break anybody. It'd be nice to keep the ability to (...) (19 years ago, 28-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Is there a reason why the major sponsor was lost? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't The LEGO Group itself sponsoring or co-sponsoring the instruction scans? Did this loss come with any warning? (19 years ago, 30-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Agreed. I havent looked much at maj.com, but there are tonnes of other pictures than lego. Micropayments on Bricklink could be the way. But - my opinion - it should be by used storages. Some people upload _huge_ pictures of sizes of e.g. 1MB - (...) (19 years ago, 30-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I seem to be getting some decidely mixed signals. Should we be migrating our files? If Brickshelf is not going away, why tell us to go away? If uploads go away, Brickshelf becomes an archive only and is effectively dead for the future. If this (...) (19 years ago, 30-May-05, to lugnet.general) !!
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(...) Yes I would also support a free to view, pay to upload system on Brickshelf. I don't know how much work it would take to implement this, but you could have a monthly, quarterly, and/or annual subscription fee that may give you (un)limited (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I think that this is a very important point. IMHO big images are just a waste of bandwidth (people get frustruated anyway when they realise the dimensions of the image, and hit back in disgust) as well as space. Also, delete unused accounts, (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Maybe I'm in the minority, but I would not be willing to pay $0.02 or even $0.01 per picture I put on Brickshelf. With that pricing scheme, I'd much sooner setup my own domain and pay for a website hosting. (...) I'd be suprised if anyone (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Hmm that's a good point. But I wasn't really trying to "weed people out" so I may have sent the wrong message! (...) Yeah that's a possibility - but the key point is that LUGNET memberships are lifetime memberships (if I remember correctly). (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) This has already happened. More and more, when people get serious about the online community, they get their own website(1). In order to keep up-to-date on MOCs, etc, I usually check four or five websites a day. -Lenny (1)= For example, (URL) (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I think the issue has always been that it just doesn't work in practice. I mean sure, I wouldn't mind paying a penny per picture, but actually having to go through both paypal AND the upload process, I dunno. It would create more of a bother. (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I agree, but for a slightly different reason. Try living where broadband simply isn't available. There are still places in the US (and other countries I'm sure) that have not yet received broadband rollout. Try clicking on one of those (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I guess the main point I'm trying to make (and not doing such a good job about it) is that we're trying to come up with ways to help pay for Brickshelf without having all of the costs coming out of the owner's pocket directly. The ideal system (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I can see some times when people will want a high-resolution version available... but for the most part, when browsing (a big purpose for Brickshelf), it's best to have an optimized image, say no bigger than 800 pixels in any dimension. There (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) That's very unfortunate, though. As Jason pointed out, it's easy enough to host your own pictures -- but there are great advantages to having them all in one place. When I want to find a good idea for making a sofa, for example, I go to (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I swore not to get into this discussion, but... I am one of the persons who fall into the catagory of someone who owns their own LEGO-related website ((URL)). I made this site when I wanted something easier to customize than MOCpages or (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Well, that's a fine policy, unless BrickShelf is going away (or going to stop accepting new pictures or whatever). Kevin still hasn't been very clear on that. But if it does, then we need to think up a new solution. Best, Joe (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) That's true, but I for one still put my pics on Brickshelf, and link there from my site. This is partly because Northstar's free web hosting has a 100MB limit, but mostly because I like the idea of people being able to also search my gallery (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Actually, (URL) sort of already does that, but in a much less comprehensive way. Legoswami (19 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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My comments for now: ALE - it is not here - (URL) idea what ALE is, I do know what a AFOL is. How about a free account with a certain amount of free pictures? That way one can have some few pictures there, and sort them if one wants to keep the (...) (19 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) It's a new acronym that's being tossed around to replace 'AFOL'-- ALE = "Adult Lego Enthusiast" (...) I don't think disk space is really the issue so much as bandwidth. IIRC he filled up 2 T1's easily, which ain't cheap. People use BrickShelf (...) (19 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) ALE is Adult Lego Enthusiast, a newer (and preferred by at least some) term over AFOL. It's easier to pronounce as an acronym, sounds less stilted when you say it in words, and is generally more accurate too. See (URL) for the thread where it (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I thought ALE was a particular type of alcoholic libation. I don't drink much, so I don't know the difference between, say.. Stout, Ale, Beer, etc.. Scott (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I dare say in some cases it could possibly mean "Adult LEGO Extremist"... Scott (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I'm not sure what a Bionicle avatar is, but I do agree that bandwidth is likely the major expense. (...) Right. And, while I'm not disparaging Kevin's efforts -- Brickshelf has been a valuable service to the community for years -- its (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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ALE is Adult Lego Enthusiast, a newer (and preferred by at least some) term over AFOL. It's easier to pronounce as an acronym, sounds less stilted when you say it in words, and is generally more accurate too. See (URL) for the thread where it was (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Renaming be damned! I like old-school, old-time. (Eddie Shore!) Signed, An AFOL who builds MOCs who also may be a Curmudgeon, JOHN (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) "mock" is already a word, so I propose we pronounce it like "smoke" and "choke" ~Kevoh (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) To purists, I barely qualify as an "AFOL," but even I agree that that term is preferable to "ALE." AFOL has history behind it, and its creation was organic, rather than deliberate, and it therefore has greater aesthetic appeal to me on those (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So, you like it better because there was little thought behind it? Next you'll be saying you voted for Bush. :) (...) Some people spell it out, but even that isn't very euphonic -- unlike the other initialisms you mention, AFOL when spelled (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ahem, Joe, but they were mocking your hobby choice, not your title! :-) (...) I've always preferred "lush", but "wine taster" isn't much better. (...) Don't be surprised if they still laugh:-) (...) Joe, terms like "AFOL" are "in-house", part (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Holy moley, them's fightin' words! (...) I don't know. I can think of all kinds of abbreviations that don't snuggle into the ear all that pleasantly. The Society for Creative Anachronisms (The SCA, which sounds like ESS-YAY) is one such (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Huh-- I almost never say "fan of Lego" or "AFOL" to people who aren't in the hobby, because it just doesn't give them a good frame of reference. I think I've always said "Lego Hobbyist" because that's what people understand. Usually "fan" is (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Methinks he doth protest too much. Out with it-- that dirty little secret will eat you alive, Dave! <snip> (...) It may have been a little wily, but I categorically deny any nilly! If it ain't OT yet, I'll make it so, number 1! (FUTOTF) JOHN (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I've often had to descibe myself and what I do in my class to school administrators, and I always use "Adult LEGO Fan", which I suppose would be ALF but I know you guys don't wanna be ALFs! Usually when I describe the community (especially the (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: (snip) (...) (snip) Whenever I read "IMO" I pronounce it in my noggin as "ih-my-oh" all fluidlike, one word. Ihmyoh. The "ih" is like the beginning of "idiot", the "my" is just like the word, and the (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) OK, that was a low blow, I apologize! (...) Heh, true in that case, but that's because trains have become widely accepted as an adult hobby. LEGO has not. (...) Yes, and they'll be thinking: "This guy plays with LEGOs? Does he still live with (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) (URL) lol> I'm trying to push "neoilluminati" but it isn't taking:-( Maybe "Legoluminati"? Just trying to help. JOHN (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It certainly is interesting following this thread..... I was a secret "AFOL/ALE" from 1980-86. No internet, no knowledge of any other adult who even cared about Lego. I was in the proverbial "Lego Closet" for all those years. Then 4 things (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I could write: AFOL whose LEGOs are MOC'ed And my spell check gives: A fool whose legs are mocked. (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Outside linking to images could be something to cut out. (...) What about a free will funds drive like Peeron did? That seemed to work out for them. Is it feasible? (...) This would definitely drop the BandWidth cost. Most internet providers (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) That's a good point. If I were to hear a child described as "into trains," I would just assume that it meant Thomas, or maybe that he liked to watch his parents' train sets. More than being "accepted" as an adult hobby, I'd guess that it's a (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Brickshelf is already set up to accept monetary contributions. Details here: (URL) may donate with Paypal or mailed payment. Kevin even gives contributors some perks: 1) No adverts are shown to any veiwers of your folders ever. No adverts are (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) That's assuming that money is the problem. I'm not convinced of that, and Kevin certainly hasn't said so. In fact, he's said very little of anything at all, except that he may stop accepting uploads at some point. Of course I am only guessing, (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Umm, excuse me? To quote from here: (URL) to the loss of our major sponsor,..." Exactly what English definition of sponsor are you using? Clark PS As for 'interest', the galleries are still online, the approvals of member's pictures are still (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Dave, I got a good chuckle out of your knucklehead comments. Very funny! Eric (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) LOL, probably won't help much against a good sharp broadsword either... ROSCO (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Let's fill in the rest, shall we? "Due to the loss of our major sponsor, Instruction and Catalog scans are no longer available at Brickshelf.com." That says absolutely nothing about the (IMHO) more important issue of user pictures on (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Scott, you've just pointed out why I don't care for that acronym. AFOL is fine by me! -Dave (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I thought ALE was a warm place reserved for agnostics like Dave! JOHN (trying to keep up with your barbarisms, Dave!) (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Why don't we use "Adult Hobbyist Of Lego" or AHOL! After all we are all AHOLs once in a while! :-p Gary Istok (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) That is the best yet!!!!!!! Adr. (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) Hey, leave my haircut out of this. Dave! (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) Shear thing, Dave! JOHN (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) ROTFLMAHOLO! Good one, Gary! :-) JOHN (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) (URL) Moke> is also already a word, its a type of open (URL) Mini> tim (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) He has: (2 URLs) I don’t think fundrasing drives are a viable long-term option (we need somewhat reliable monthly cashflow), we certainly will not turn away impromptu sponsors!" Clark (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Both of those are passive requests. In the same vein, I'm always interested in getting free money, but that isn't the same like saying 'I'm broke and need to get some cash. I'm going to sell my Collection to make money.' I think what Joe is (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
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Hello! (...) I say "eta" (That's a terror organization in the Spanish Basque region.) or E-T-A (meaning "estimated time of arrival"), R-S-V-P (what the heck is it?) and U-S-A. But I say "afol" and "mock" and "burp" because: (...) Or does anybody say (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Hi JoJo! (...) Respondez Sil Vous Plait (1) HTH! ++Lar (can we pick one FUT? I think .people but what do I know?) 1 - IIRC(2)... it's French or something for "get back to me whether you are coming to my party or not because I need to know how (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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Hello! (...) Merci beaucoup! (...) I posted to .general because I wrote about something LEGO-related. And to .debate because it was debate-ish. (...) Yeah, thanks, I'm coming to that party! Would you pay for my taxi? (...) How do you pronounce (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Taxi OR beer, whichever's less. I guess... Assuming I have any money left after BF... Apparently some rumor got started that I'm buying rounds at Rocklands??? Gonna be hard to pull off because Nik'll be with me again this year and I don't (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Crap, there's always a catch isn't there? Rob (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) What a strange person! Acros are to save time typing, neh? So, why wouldn't one voice it out "in one's head"? Whenever I read an acro, I unsuffit. Unless a person is too important and their time too valuable to take that extra nanosecond or (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) The voices in my head talk slowly, so that I can understand what they are saying... apparently yours don't, and talk so fast that you're getting garbled messages? That certainly would explain a lot! (...) Yep, that's me all right... (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) Of all the people who *could* have responded to [JOHN], I knew you would be the first (if not the only) to chime in and say that. You're becoming too easy to read. Time to change your modus operandi... Rob (19 years ago, 7-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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I am happy to announce that the Brickshelf Instuction Library will be coming back online soon. Kevin Loch has asked us, and we agreed, to host it at Peeron.com. Since we have to write a new interface for the library, it is not ready yet to go live, (...) (19 years ago, 17-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.announce.peeron, lugnet.announce.brickshelf, lugnet.publish) !!
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(...) This is EXCELLENT news, and a real releif! HOORAY! Legoswami (19 years ago, 17-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Great news! (^.^) Much thanks to Dan, Jenn, and others. -Suz (19 years ago, 17-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish, FTX)
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(...) Great news! Thanks much! Will (does) that include the catalouge scans? Thanks and God Bless, Nathan (19 years ago, 17-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Yes, but not immediately. (19 years ago, 17-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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Great news! Thank you Peeron. e (19 years ago, 17-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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Hello! (...) That's indeed good news. Thanks for taking that over, Peeron! Now that this matter is resolved: What's happening to the MOC galleries on BrickShelf now? Bye Jojo (19 years ago, 18-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) That is great news, I am very glad The instructions Have found a new home. (19 years ago, 18-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) And there will be much rejoicing! (19 years ago, 18-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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ok this still leaves me with.... should I move my pictures or let them stay at BS? Sonnich "Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> wrote in message news:II8GxH.1KEE@lugnet.com... (...) coming (...) not (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.general)
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(...) AFAIK, Kevin has no plans to shut down the gallery - so I would say certainly keep them there. I think people forget that the best thing about hosting pictures on BS isn't the free hosting (which is still cool), but the fact that that's the (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.general)
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(...) I am glad to hear the good news. With Peeron becoming an even more valuable resource for the community (not that it wasn't valuable already), are there any plans for redundancy so if there were problems with Peeron (God forbid) that we would (...) (19 years ago, 20-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Well, I assume that by "problem with Peeron" you mean a problem with Jennifer and myself :) But there are other members of the community that have access to the server, the code, and the data. So even if we were to go away, the site could (...) (19 years ago, 20-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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"Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> schreef in bericht news:II8GxH.1KEE@lugnet.com... (...) Now there's some great news! Thanks for all the efforts. Jaco (19 years ago, 21-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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It took a little bit longer than we had hoped, but the scans are now available again. We still need to add the PDF instructions, and the catalogs, but we felt that releasing what we have already would be better than waiting for everything to be (...) (19 years ago, 28-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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It took a little bit longer than we had hoped, but the scans are now available again. We still need to add the PDF instructions, and the catalogs, but we felt that releasing what we have already would be better than waiting for everything to be (...) (19 years ago, 28-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.announce.peeron, lugnet.announce, lugnet.general) !!
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(...) That's excellent Dan! You got that up & going ultra quick, thanks! I do have a query though - I couldn't find set 8040. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a PDF because it's pretty old, and I had page 13 bookmarked because of the infamous 5x9 plate :) (...) (19 years ago, 28-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) I knew I forgot to mention something! Some of the older scans were actually invalid pictures, so they didn't import cleanly. I still need to go through the ones that were rejected, and import them manually. I just found 8040, and it was one of (...) (19 years ago, 28-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Wowsers, that rocks! Thanks! A suggestion I have is to integrate the scan lib into the search. If you want to find a particular set now, I think you have to search for the set inventory, then follow the link to the scan. Although you have pics (...) (19 years ago, 28-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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Inventories and Scans together at last. I am really glad to see that you were able to carry the torch here Dan, thank you very much. Scott (...) (19 years ago, 28-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) No problem at all! Ahhhhh there it is (URL) (19 years ago, 29-Jun-05, to lugnet.publish)
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