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(...) Nah, I do want to do it - I just know what I'm getting into. ;) (...) We might as well use the tables we've got, rather than renting tables down there. Also, if they use generic banquet tables, which 103% of rental places do, there's no real (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) It's not like you don't have a few grey plates to compensate with. :-) (...) The tables are 2'x8', so $40 would give us a good chuck more space than we have with the existing tables. The cost shouldn't be an issue due to the "gate-share" (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I was just talking to the chairman of Supertrain2001 by phone, and I'm thinking that perhaps it would be best to use both the existing tables AND some rentals. With James Powell's large contribution, we have enough track and trains to make a (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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Sorry I am so late in replying to this thread. We just came back from California, and yes, Legoland is neat. I was disappointed by the selection of Lego in their store. No large technic sets, only train sets were the track, the station and loading (...) (24 years ago, 16-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I can include some (2 or 3) controllers, without the 9V wall wart. I have 2 110 ones which I am using the plugins for Mindstorms, and a Euro one (no different, same wall wart connection). LMK if you want 1 or 2 of them thrown in...I find them (...) (24 years ago, 16-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Wall wart? Is that your pet name for the 9V transformer? :-) (...) AFAIK I'm the electronics guy - I actually should be doing some soldering right now instead of typing this. I could modify any excess controllers for slower speed. SRC (24 years ago, 19-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) As far as I'm familiar with, "Wall Wart" is pretty universal to the little humming boxes that get plugged into sockets on x-mas morning all over the place. On other fronts, I would highly sttongly advise against using a resistor. Too much (...) (24 years ago, 19-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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In lugnet.org.ca.nalug, Michel Magnan writes: <snip> (...) I've got a staple gun - just pliers for removal though. ;-) (...) We've got more time available, (they let us in at 15:00) having the tables ready and waiting should help a lot, and I'm (...) (24 years ago, 19-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Is that a yes? :-) (That small a transformer shouldn't "hum") (...) Good advice - I will make sure to use the best method, keeping in mind that safety (for the short LEGOmaniacs) is the most important factor. SRC (24 years ago, 20-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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Steve, I need to know what you want me to bring to Edmonton for the Calgary show. So far I will bring the 1. Plastic tablecloths for skirting, but not the stappler or pliers. 2. Two transformers, with wall adapters, to be speed limited with the (...) (24 years ago, 20-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Given the size and weight and hassle of the tables, my plan was to follow the KISS rule and just use rented tables from Calgary. An extension of that is that your grain tower would be a static model only. Plastic tablecloths - if you can pick (...) (24 years ago, 21-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I have a bunch of track that can be borrowed (sniff - all my brand new track!). Nowhere near as much as Michel, but its already in the city. I've got essentially 4 ovals and 2 of the big track expansion packs. Unfortunately, I don't have (...) (24 years ago, 21-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) <snip list of stuff> (...) Call me paranoid, but I'd like to have the tables available, even if we do decide to go with the rented tables - Anyone remember what the tables were like at the food vendors for GETS? I wouldn't want to trust my (...) (24 years ago, 21-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Just as a note, we can only rely on two people all weekend to keep an eye on this layout, and interact with the people outside. If the layout is much bigger than our GETS show was, you and I aren't going to be able to keep an eye on (...) (24 years ago, 21-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I'll confirm that the tables are sturdy and solid, but if there's enough room, I suppose it couldn't hurt to bring the tables along. I'd just rather not put hassle on Michel and especially his father for no reason other than "they might be (...) (24 years ago, 21-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Heh. I'm the kind of guy with enough integrity to stand behind my paranoia. I'll quite happily go out to St. Paul and pick up the tables. Hop, skip & a jump, really. :) (...) I'll take a look at which bucket it is tonight, and post a piece (...) (24 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Unless some other Zellers has a better stock of these, it's not going to happen. Sherwood Park Zellers had 1 bucket left, as opposed to the 2 shelves + pallet in the aisle that was there a few weeks ago. For the archives, the set is 4285, has (...) (24 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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About the tables, James, please don't make a trip to St Paul just to get them. I WILL get them to Edmonton. My grandfather just died, we will be going to Edmonton tomorrow, I'll throw a few of the tables in the van. When my parents come to St Paul (...) (24 years ago, 27-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I believe I speak for the lot of us when offering condolences. (...) Right now that depends where you go.. North of downtown it's running about 61.9/litre (and I'm certain I saw one higher but can't remember by how much), but not far from my (...) (24 years ago, 27-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Yes - The tables don't matter - Family does. I checked with SuperTrain about the tables - I really don't think we'll have a use for "our" tables. Barry said he's used them himself for his layouts and the rental company has been very good with (...) (24 years ago, 28-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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In lugnet.org.ca.nalug, Michel Magnan writes: <snip> (...) Things are falling into place nicely for the kid's play area at SuperTrain2001. If I haven't told you already, it is the largest train show in Canada, and in the top ten for North America. (...) (24 years ago, 28-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Ok. All things being equal, I'd still like to have them available. (...) Hmm. You've never owned a van, have you Steve? :) Trust me, space going down is *not* an issue. (...) Did anyone notice if the SW buckets are among the things on sale at (...) (24 years ago, 29-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Cool! This is rockin' news. That frees up some of the GETS money to deal with other costs. (...) Hmm. Is it a surfaced hardboard? I'm wondering if we should get an already surfaced material, or just paint the heck out of plain wood... I guess (...) (24 years ago, 29-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Yes - I was thinking it could go towards the poles and rope and table cloths and concrete? plaster?!? ;-) and if any was left, towards the actual buckets (for the bases) themselves. Hopefully we can find 12 or 16 red basic buckets on sale in (...) (24 years ago, 29-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) <snip> (...) I just realized that instead of clamps, we could use 100' of duct tape per table. More labor intensive to setup, but safer and stronger. SRC StRuCtures (24 years ago, 29-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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For the rope barriers I used 1 1/4 inch rigid PVC conduit, it is used for built in vaccuums. One end is female, they are 10 feet long. I used grey, because the white ones in St Paul were so old and dirty they were almost grey! White would be much (...) (24 years ago, 30-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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As far as track, I have 7 pair of switches, 2 of the crossovers and atleast (but not a lot more than) 190 curves and 150 straights. If you aren't going to motorize the play area, do you want me to bring some of our Duplo trains and track? They used (...) (24 years ago, 30-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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Michel Magnan wrote in message ... (...) 12 seemed just enough for the last layout. For future layouts, I'd say we'd need somewhere between 16-24. (...) Yes, it was a bit short, but if you have one rope and make it taller, then small folks will (...) (24 years ago, 30-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) OK - I expect to use use all the straights - Firmer numbers forthcoming. (...) If you don't mind it being left "un-attended" in the play area, sure. TLC will probably be sending some Duplo train stuff, but we certainly can never have too much. (...) (24 years ago, 31-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I'm estimating 16 at this point, but the more the better. (...) Good idea - rope isn't very expensive. My Uncle has a small drill press for making the holes. SRC StRuCtures (24 years ago, 31-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I can make a detailed shopping list for James or go with him. Beyond the three play ovals, I see two main items for Jan 13th. One is the barricade buckets, the other is the mountain. There's three ways I see incorporating the mountain. One is (...) (24 years ago, 31-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Doh! That should of course be the _mountain_ needs three tunnels. SRC (24 years ago, 31-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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I forgot to mention that we could have almost used 14 for GETS 2000, remember we butted one end up against the other train display, so we didn't need a barrier on that side. I had drilled two holes in the pipes, one 6 inches below the other, I (...) (24 years ago, 31-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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Will yoiu be able to bring the drill press to James place? Do you need a 3/8 inch drill bit? Michel (...) (24 years ago, 31-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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I didn't understand that TLG was supplying the track for the play area. If it falls through, another possibility for the play area track, is to use my old grey 4.5/12V track. It takes longer to assemble, but I am not using it anymore, and won't mind (...) (24 years ago, 31-Dec-00, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I believe it is a counter-top model, yes. (Should be OK for bits) SRC (24 years ago, 1-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I just got confirmation. TLG is sending me all the various LEGO that I requested for the kid's play area. If the Calgary club kicks in the $50 for the hardware and provides the tables and supervision as expected, we should have an awesome play (...) (24 years ago, 2-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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Congratulations and great work on getting the play area supplies form TLG. Will I have to go to Calgary to find out what the secret surprise is? Did you want me to bring my roundhouse? The turntable is sunken, so it wouldn't work on a regular table. (...) (24 years ago, 3-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Secret surprise?? If you mean the "future of LEGO trains", you'll have to wait for Mr. Justus to make his announcement. AFAIK he won't be in Calgary, but it would be cool if he were to visit. :-) (...) It can still be a great non-functioning (...) (24 years ago, 3-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) How do you want me to do this? I have a container yard, which occupies right now 7x3 (32x32) plates. Roughly, this takes 3 tracks (plus one mainline passes through it), and there are some neat things with the containers (a overhead crane made (...) (24 years ago, 3-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I also think we should put our time towards more buildings and worry less about function at this point. Function is cool & a bonus, but I'd rather have two static display pieces instead of 1 functional. (...) Hmm. Setup/takedown isn't my big (...) (24 years ago, 3-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) My personal inclination would be to do a much larger version of the itty-bitty container yard we had at the GETS layout.. a couple sidings available for loading/offloading, and some cars in various states of load, with a large area just full (...) (24 years ago, 3-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) My personal inclination would be to do a much larger version of the itty-bitty container yard we had at the GETS layout.. a couple sidings available for loading/offloading, and some cars in various states of load, with a large area just full (...) (24 years ago, 3-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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If we have room for other yards, I have just completed an enclosed double decker car carrier, so far it only fits convertibles, but I will try to alter the roof, to allow regular cars in the top rack. I'll bring it to Edmonton on the 13th. I will (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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SRC wrote in message ... (...) ;-) "John's guts" are still built and available. Since it's not 100% jam free yet, it should be run with no "grain". At GETS, it ran like this unattended for an entire afternoon. Once you obtain the elevator shell (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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John, If I use the GETS money to buy one of the packs of conveyor belts from myself, and then use superglue to permanently stick the mailboxes (or safes, lets not go there again!) to the threads, do you think that would fix the problem? Michel (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Yeah - That's what I had wanted to do at GETS, but there wasn't enough room, and the dummy containers never got built. This time we should be able to do it right. (...) Victoria? I thought you were a Newfie. 8-) (...) If you can make a sign (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I think I can squeeze in an auto-loading section on one side of the switching yard - I'll try to include it in the next layout posting. I would be concerned though about everyone's cars getting back to their respective owners. I'm going to (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) With the much improved rope barrier and the huge play area to distract grabbing/touching, not to mention the elongated "three-sided shape" meaning we're mostly facing one direction, I think we should be OK. Of course any AFOL from NALug and/or (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I'm a Englishman, living in Canada for the last 21 years (of 24 :), who is in the Navy (_Never Again Volenteer Yourself), currently going to school in St John's, but awaiting my posting msg back to Victoria (west coast wants bodies) I _know_ (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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It's moot (for this show anyway) unless you guys can build it up higher. As with the turntable, the tables are rentals, so anything that is displayed has to still flat on top of the tables - no cut-out. (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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Only a few days before Saturdays work bee, a few other questions. James, could you soak off the labels from the Lego pails before Saturday? I found about 15 minutes in hot water and the label peeled off nicely. James, do you have any of the (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Can do. Am doing, in fact. (...) no hacksaw, no mitre box. 1 drill, 1 jigsaw. (...) For now, I think leave them at your parents as long as they've got the room. (and don't mind!) (...) Yah, probably a good idea. I'm not sure if we want to (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) IMO the wooden bases should be considered a failed experiment. The piping can still be used with the "bucket-bases", and then theoretically we only need some more piping and several hundred feet of rope. I can pick up the rope - Home Depot and (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I checked with my Uncle - My ears or memory or both are whacked. He does not have a drill press of any size. (My father had a both a table-top and floor size, but they're gone.) Sorry for the confusion. SRC (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I might be able to borrow a drill press on Saturday, but I'm not sure. I do know that I can go and use it pretty much any old time, so I can drill the rope holes later on. James (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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I'll bring one, I had another need for the drill press. To drill a starter hole in the exact middle of some 2 inch long wooden dowels to attach to the inside bottom of the pails, to hold the bottom of the plastic pipe in the exact middle, so that it (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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