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Todd Lehman wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> > > A true bad guy for an epic. At least, IMO.
> >
> > Here I disagree. Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine were bad guys. Wait, I
> > mean BAD guys. Actually, let's go with evil. Like cosmic evil forces.
> > Darth Maul was kind of a bad-ass, but not an epic villain. Like Grand Moff
> > Tarkin, who was a bad guy, but seemed more like someone with a particular
> > political faction allegience that we happen to disagree with. Darth Maul
> > just happened to be a bad guy. I had hoped for a most excellent bad guy.
>
> Ahhh, I know what you mean! We don't know how Darth Maul thinks -- we don't
> hear him talking much and when we do, he doesn't say anything profound or
> revealing. He doesn't interact with anyone else except to fight. Whereas
> we know that Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine were *really* bad-guys, Darth
> Maul is just a "b**-a** m***** f*****" that you don't want to mess with, but
> we can't be sure that he's really got the depth of a true "bad guy." And he's
> certainly not the plot's antagonist character. He's more like a caged tiger
> that you let loose to rip someone apart -- a demon genie that you summon with
> some incantation and then put him back in the jar.
Yeah, he's more of the evil henchman kinda guy, but he was very cool and bad.
> I hope that if he does
> return in Episode II (as a clone or as a spirit or as his top half floating
> on a repulsarlift skateboard) that we see more depth of character.
Since Episode 2 is most likely based on the Clone Wars, perhaps we shall see a
clone (that fights Mace Windu... or something!!).
>
>
>
> Boba Fett was a much better character, IMHO, even though we probably saw less
> of him in Episodes V & VI combined than we did of Darth Maul in Episode I
> alone. That's because you could figure out stuff about Boba Fett's history,
> and you could see how scared Han was of him when Chewie mentioned that he was
> there on the skiff in VI.
Boba Fett is really cool... that's all I have to say 'bout that. =)
>
>
> But I was suckered just like everyone else into thinking that Darth Maul would
> be the coolest bad guy since Darth Vader when the Episode I marketing hype
> engine was at full bore in early 1999.
No one can compete with the dark lord.
--
Andrew, Agent 0007
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