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Re: Something not right about Captain Ahnee and the Dipwads?
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Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:46:41 GMT
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I'm curious about this 'not my kids, not my responsibility' attitude a
couple people have expressed. Is this a stance only taken when it comes to
children? If I follow this reasoning I could say that there are no adults I
am specifically responsible for either and act accordingly. At what age do
children around us suddenly earn respect as fellow individuals and members
of the community?
It's not usually even conscious decisions that make us act differently with
different people. People generally treat different friends, family,
coworkers, whoever slightly differently because we are aware of their
individual sensitivities and tastes. It's just part 'getting along with
others' that we all learned as kids.
People also generally extend the courtesy to children whether or not they
have any of their own. I know I might want to curse out loud in the LEGO
isle when the set I want isn't there, but I certainly won't if a kid is
standing right there. Is this discussion only happening because we're
dealing with internet posting where there is no one 'standing next to us'?
Please bear in mind that I am not attempting to accuse here, only asking for
clarification on this 'not my kids, not my responsibility' idea. For the
record, I enjoyed the strip and was personally not bothered by the Jar Jar
bashing. I can appreciate a level of antipathy towards the character that I
don't happen to share. I am also not afraid of confusing the strip with
behaviour towards anyone or anything in the real world. However, not having
children I defer to the stance of those who do to say how inappropriate it
may be for kids.
I am sorry to see that the content of the strip was changed. Considering
the opinions expressed I think a disclaimer would have been adequate. Such
are hardly unheard of on LEGO sites. The subject of age is a recurring
theme on LUGNET and it always seems that there are plenty of minors reading
the discussions and following the links.
I also find it curious that with all the talk of kids and violence no one
has mentioned the blood-spattering laser blast picture.
John
#388
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mark Sandlin writes:
> > > You said that you resent efforts to make the world safe for kids.
> >
> >
> > No, what I resent are efforts to change *my* world to make it safe for
> > *your* kids. Having kids is *your* choice, not mine. therefore, it becomes
> > *your responsibility to shelter them, not mine. I resent efforts to alter
> > the things to which I have access in the interest of someone else's kids.
>
> Mark, please show us ONE place where any of us has asked for the comic to be
> changed or removed. All Larry has said is that he is uncomfortable with his
> children reading the comic, and will take action to prevent them from seeing
> it. He also raised a point of discussion, perhaps to find out if others feel as
> he does. Now Larry does regularly remind people that Lugnet is a family place
> and that certain language is not acceptable here, however, if you read Lugnet's
> TOS, you will see that all Larry is doing is calling for us to observe the
> standards we agreed to when joining the Lugnet community.
>
> For my own part, if Dan changed the comic because the discussion got him to
> thinking about what he was expressing, and he realized that that expression was
> not something he wanted to express, then I salute him for changing the comic.
> If, on the other hand, he changed the comic purely because he felt peer
> pressure to change it, then I don't respect the change.
>
> If you go back through the history of lugnet.off-topic.debate, I think that you
> will find that Larry, Chris, and I are 100% with you on whose responsibility
> the children are (though I firmly believe that children are in the
> whole communities interest, and that if they examine their interest carefully,
> they will accept a certain responsibility for other's children).
>
> Frank
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