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Re: Star Wars ruminations (was: Reality == fiction?)
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Sun, 5 Nov 2000 22:25:09 GMT
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In lugnet.starwars, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> Not in light of how you equated Jar-Jar to sea food and MS. The only
> problem that I had with that note, was that you said the essense of your
> hate is that you wanted to limit as much as possible your exposure to those
> things. Except in your last paragraph you indicated tha you wanted an
> increased exposure to Jar-jar as long as he was being abused.
I didn't think I said that. I thought I said that the cartoon violence aimed
at JJB was sort of a pleasant thing in fantasy sort of way -- in the way that
allows you to pretend that JJB won't return for Episode II. I certainly don't
wish to *increase* my exposure to anti-JJB propaganda or humour (and Lord knows
there's plenty of that out there on the net that someone could fill their time
up with if they wanted to).
> Do you want to see lobsters abused? (Somehow I doubt it.)
No. It's not lobsters' fault that they smell like seafood. :-)
> > Now I know how to say this: What I hate isn't Jar-Jar per se, but the fact
> > that a character like Jar-Jar, which I find annoying to the point of being
> > painful, appeared as a major character in a Star Wars movie.
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> Except for the degree, I just can't call it painful, I agree completely.
The nice thing about pain is that you can get numb to it over time. I think
if I forced myself to watch TPM once a week, I'd get numb about JJB. :-)
> [...]
> On a side note, was he the only thing abut TPM that degraded the concept of
> "Star Wars Movie" in your mind?
The metallic battle droid voices and phrases like "Roger, Roger" degraded it
a bit for me. The loud fart degraded it for me. The Midichlorian business
degraded it a bit for me. I'm hoping that Anakin turns out to be a clone
experiment -- not conceived by the Midichlorians. The smooth, polished Naboo
ships kinda degraded it for me. I think Doug Chang is a total genius and I
understand Lucas's desire to have a completely different look, but it didn't
"feel" like a SW movie as much with the less "geometric" ships. I hope that
Episode II and III return to a more Jeff Johnston style of ships. Some of the
voices and fake accents bothered me too.
> I wonder how much of the brunt of anger
> based in a whole bunch of stupid stuff in TPM, that one character bears.
For me, JJB is about 90% of it.
--Todd
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| (...) I liked the battle droids, shows how stupid robots can be (and are sometimes). (...) Yeah, Lucas was drinking quite heavily then... (...) Don't forget, all Naboo star craft represents royalty and beauty, so they will have none of that (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| (...) I think that the movie was also degraded by the "super-powers" of Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. Lucas would put his characters in a particularly tight spot, and then have then overcome the situation by an introduction of incredible abilities. Ex: (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| (...) Uh..no problem. (...) Not in light of how you equated Jar-Jar to sea food and MS. The only problem that I had with that note, was that you said the essense of your hate is that you wanted to limit as much as possible your exposure to those (...) (24 years ago, 5-Nov-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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