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Subject:	Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:25:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Leonard Hoffman wrote: <snip> > > > > Therefore science cannot encompass everything. That stated, something must > > exist outside of science. > > No one said that science was everything to everyone. Literature, for example, > is outside the scope of science (for the time being). > > > Let that something be God. > > Ahh.. see if only it were so simple. Is it a God (all powerful, omnipotent) or > a god (limited supernatural power), or gods. Or a selfless, ill defined entity. > And if it IS God, is it Islamic God, or Judaic God, Christian God (Catholic God, > Orthodox God, Protestant God), Zoroastrian God, or some other ill defined diety. > > Exactly which god are we talking about? And then, why him and not the other > gods or spirits out there? > > You can believe whatever you want to believe, fine. Just don't pretend it is > science, or that it has the same intellectual certitude that science does. > > -Lenny And I would agree with the above--which God and such--all great questions. That said, the main agruement from the 'science camp' is that there can be no God because there is no proof that God exists. You stated earlier that there are certain things that science is ill-equipped to answer due to the existence of things 'outside of' science. I just state that for those that believe, let that be God. I also think my history in o.t-d shows that I do not equate God and science. That said, don't pretend that those that do believe that there is a God (no matter what flavour) are somehow less 'intellectual' than those that leave all matters in the purview of science. Dave K

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) Well, to expand upon the thoughts of the 'science camp' (which, if we wanna use isms, is Mechanistic Naturalism) - we can use Occam's Razor to cut away every explanation except the most simplistic. There is no supernatural diety, the entire (...) (20 years ago, 11-Apr-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) Actually, I think the technical reason is that God doesn't exist because there can be no disproof of God. IE, no matter what sort of tests you could set up, you'd never be able to disprove God's existance no matter what the outcome of (...) (20 years ago, 11-Apr-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) No one said that science was everything to everyone. Literature, for example, is outside the scope of science (for the time being). (...) Ahh.. see if only it were so simple. Is it a God (all powerful, omnipotent) or a god (limited (...) (20 years ago, 11-Apr-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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