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Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
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Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:41:52 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
> > >
> > > > But my point is that science cannot ever address creation because it
> > > > fundamentally defies logic. God and Event#1 are synonymous. Creation
> > > > {demands} a leap of faith.
> > >
> > > On that, I concur completely. It's a leap I'm not able to make, but I agree
> > > that it's central to accepting creationism as an explanation.
> >
> > I think you misunderstood me. I meant that the origin of the universe
> > (however it came to be) demands a leap of faith. At some point, logically,
> > something came from nothing. I don't believe it is valid to simply state
> > that "the universe always existed"-- this isn't a valid scientific
> > hypothesis, but a dodge.
>
> Science doesn't need to answer question for which it doesn't have enough
> evidence to address. According to the Big Bang Theory, one cannot ask what
> caused the Big Bang or where the Big Band came from, because (according to the
> theory), all scientific laws break down at the Big Band. One cannot ask what
> came before because the question doesn't make sense.
Therefore science cannot encompass everything. That stated, something must
exist outside of science.
Let that something be God.
Dave K
> This is analogous to dividing the equation by zero. You can't do it because it
> just doesn't make sense.
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> In other words, the correct scientific statement about origins would be: "There
> is not enough available evidence to form an education hypothesis." This
> statement requires no leap of faith.
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> -Lenny
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> PS. About dividing by zero.. follow this little proof:
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> a = b
> a^2 = ab
> a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2
> (a+b)(a-b)= b(a-b)
> divide (a-b) by both sides to get:
> a+b=b
> and since a=b, this gives:
> 2a=a
> or
> 2=1
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> The error occurs when you remove (a-b) from both sides. Since a=b, that means
> a-b=0. We are dividing the equation by zero, which produces the irrational
> result.
My math teacher in high school had that on his wall, along with other math
related oddities. I contributed to that wall by generating Pascals Triangle to
something like 50 lines using a little program done on the Commodore 64 and
printed out. It was still there years later when I visited the school.
Dave K
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