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Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
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Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:24:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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> > > But my point is that science cannot ever address creation because it
> > > fundamentally defies logic. God and Event#1 are synonymous. Creation
> > > {demands} a leap of faith.
> >
> > On that, I concur completely. It's a leap I'm not able to make, but I agree
> > that it's central to accepting creationism as an explanation.
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> I think you misunderstood me. I meant that the origin of the universe
> (however it came to be) demands a leap of faith. At some point, logically,
> something came from nothing. I don't believe it is valid to simply state
> that "the universe always existed"-- this isn't a valid scientific
> hypothesis, but a dodge.
Science doesn't need to answer question for which it doesn't have enough
evidence to address. According to the Big Bang Theory, one cannot ask what
caused the Big Bang or where the Big Band came from, because (according to the
theory), all scientific laws break down at the Big Band. One cannot ask what
came before because the question doesn't make sense.
This is analogous to dividing the equation by zero. You can't do it because it
just doesn't make sense.
In other words, the correct scientific statement about origins would be: "There
is not enough available evidence to form an education hypothesis." This
statement requires no leap of faith.
-Lenny
PS. About dividing by zero.. follow this little proof:
a = b
a^2 = ab
a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2
(a+b)(a-b)= b(a-b)
divide (a-b) by both sides to get:
a+b=b
and since a=b, this gives:
2a=a
or
2=1
The error occurs when you remove (a-b) from both sides. Since a=b, that means
a-b=0. We are dividing the equation by zero, which produces the irrational
result.
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