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Subject:	Re: debates (was: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing")
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Date:	Sun, 6 Oct 2002 13:42:26 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ed Jones writes: > "I thought it was a fresh debate, rather than a carryover > > of another debate (which it seems to be)." > > > > Unfortunately, in my case, because I am not a "Regular", I was called a "flyby." > Actually, if I may clarify--this was a new debate about TWW and the validity > of using cites from the show--Larry pointed out that in his opinion, any > cite from TWW will carry no water with him. That was this particular debate > drew in issues and subjects from other threads to either reinforce the > points, or refute points. > > So it wasn't a continuing debate, it was a brand new one. Well, that's sort of technically true, but at the same time, the thread wouldn't have started without the context that leads to it. In that way, it is a continuation of more than one other thread in which TWW was cited. So I think that's what Ed was picking up on. The crux of it though, is that forming your opinions based on any TV show is somewhat dangerous because of the propagandist nature of the medium. If we see people accepting as fact, things presented in fictional TV shows, it may concern us. OTOH, if you think about what they're saying a bunch, and agree with it, then there isn't any harm. TV as a medium is certainly capable of bringing a whole world of new ideas to us. I remember reading something in my childhood, it may have been an article in TV Guide, that talked about the many letters the performers in Soap Operas got condemning their behavior...as if they had anything to do with real life! So the notion that people *don't* believe too much reality into TV shows is silly. Chris

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		Re: debates (was: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing")
(...) Exactly. (...) So what medium isn't spewing propaganda? (...) It would be interesting to see the ratio of those letters received to viewers. IS it 1%, 10%. I don;t think it would be very high at all. (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: debates (was: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing")
(...) I remember in January '86 when the shuttle blew up--the news preempted all the soaps for the afternoon to cover the terrible accident. Then the tv stations received many nasty letters and phone calls from irate viewers who were angry that they (...) (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: debates (was: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing")
(...) Actually, if I may clarify--this was a new debate about TWW and the validity of using cites from the show--Larry pointed out that in his opinion, any cite from TWW will carry no water with him. That was this particular debate drew in issues (...) (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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