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Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
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Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:00:01 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
And in fairness, if we're discussing gun-related issues as they apply to
21st century society, I would say that Jefferson doesn't get an opinion,
other than as a statement of historical context and, perhaps, as a means to
understand original intent (though I'm still not convinced that that's even
really possible!).

Jeez, Dave!...

I agree that we can revisit a given question.

I agree that the historical meaning of the 2nd and 9th Amendments only get
at the legislative intent and do not go to stare decisis or what we may do
now or in the future (through further amendments).

But if you are going to assert that it's not even possible to know what
words mean, then you are throwing yourself on the mercy of the court EVERY
time you have a legal problem.  I think one of the problems we have in the
Supreme Court is the rejection of the understood meanings of things.  If the
Supreme Court is going to be the only arbiter of meanings, and the words of
the Constition have no commonly understood meaning -- or none that carries
any legal weight; then we might as well not have the Constitution in the
first place as none but a specified few can actually be expected to
understand the meaning of any laws.

I always did admire the Anti-Federalist tendency towards anarchy, but is
that what we really want?

This continual chipping away at the significance of meaning and precedence
worries me.  Talk about having blood on the contract...

-- Hop-Frog



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  Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
 
(...) Heehee. I should have picked a more hypothetical example! See, my biggest problem is that I agree with you, but something's not sitting right with me about it. Not with the right itself, which I honestly think is pretty straightforward, but (...) (22 years ago, 4-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
 
(...) That's a *fantastic* example, and it dovetails nicely with my point in an earlier debate. Mike P is now off the hook for using the false Brady quote: "Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us are (...) (22 years ago, 4-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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