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In lugnet.color, Kyle D. Jackson wrote:
> Really? What sets had the dark grey? And yeah, I forgot about the maxifig
> hair for brown (or minifig tools, etc.).
First set to use dark grey (according to Peeron) is 590 Engine Co. #9 (1977):
http://www.peeron.com/inv/colortable/3024?ip=0
From the Brickshelf scan, it does indeed look like they're dark grey.
For brown, I see push-brooms in 1978:
http://www.peeron.com/inv/sets/605-1
http://www.peeron.com/inv/sets/1589-1
They started showing up in "regular" pieces much later. Sorta. For Brown it's
certainly true, since it first started showing up here and there in the
mid-90's, and then really picked up in the late 90's and 00's. Dark grey was
similar, with a VERY early arrival in 1980 in some train sets (2x6 and 2x8
plates). And with a couple splinters of dark grey bricks/plates in 1996, dark
grey really exploded (moreso than brown even) in 1998:
(Earliest year for a color [in a basic brick/plate] marked with * signs below)
Brown DkGry Grey Piece
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2001 1998 1966 1x1 Plate
1987 1998 1966 1x2 Plate
*1993* 1999 1977 1x3 Plate
1998 1996 1977 1x4 Plate
2000 1999 1977 1x6 Plate
2000 1996 1973 1x8 Plate
2003 2002 1984 1x10 Plate
1998 1998 *1965* 2x2 Plate
1998 1998 1967 2x3 Plate
1998 1998 *1965* 2x4 Plate
2001 *1980* 1978 2x6 Plate
2000 *1980* 1969 2x8 Plate
2000 2000 1978 2x10 Plate
2001 1998 1990 2x12 Plate
2000 2001 1984 2x16 Plate
*1993* 1998 1979 1x1 Brick
1986 1998 1979 1x2 Brick
2001 1998 1979 1x3 Brick
2001 1998 1980 1x4 Brick
1999 1998 1980 1x6 Brick
2004 1998 1980 1x8 Brick
2000 1998 1994 1x10 Brick
1996 2001 1994 1x12 Brick
---- 1998 1990 1x16 Brick
2000 1998 1983 2x2 Brick
2001 1998 1984 2x3 Brick
1999 1998 1979 2x4 Brick
2000 1998 1993 2x6 Brick
2004 1999 1986 2x8 Brick
2004 1998 1986 2x10 Brick
> I was thinking of largely common
> elements when I considered when a colour first "appeared". From my
> recollection neither dark grey nor brown appeared in common elements (e.g.,
> basic bricks) until, what, the 90's? But regular grey was around for quite
> a long time in common elements (70's at least).
Yeah, grey *brick* was really uncommon until around 1984 when the castle theme
started using it. Beforehand, it was around in plates mostly, but grey bricks
were only speckled in here and there in various sets.
> Can you point to the
> specific sets/years when the colours first appeared as any element, and
> then when they first appeared in common elements, e.g., basic bricks?
Heh, hopefully the above works well enough :) I'm basing that 100% on Peeron,
but it does appear to be accurate, upon looking at pictures of the early sets.
DaveE
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| (...) as making very late appearances... (...) Yeah, the earliest grey bricks I got were in classic space set 894 Tracking Station in 1979 (a 2x4 and a bunch of 1x1,2,3). (...) Yup! Must've been bored! ;] Thanx, KDJ ___...___ LUGNETer #203, Ontario, (...) (20 years ago, 2-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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