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In lugnet.color, Arne Lykke Nielsen wrote:
> In lugnet.color, Gerhard R. Istok wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, grey *brick* was really uncommon until around 1984 >>
> > > DaveE
> > Peeron is wrong on some of the 60's dates for grey. In 1963 (Christmas 1962 to
> > be accurate) grey plates in 1x1, 1x2, 2x2, 2x3, 2x4 and strange as it may seem
> > 8x11 came into production. These early ones were Cellulose Acetate. They came
> > out in Architectural sets #750, #751 and #752, as well as spare parts packs
> > #518, #519, #520 and #521. These plates (except the 8x11) were continuously
> > produced in spare parts packs until 1972.
> >
> > The 10x20 (thick) base plate was produced in grey since 1955, and was the main
> > and most popular color (out of 6 colors) for base plates throughout the 1960's.
> > The 50x50 thin base plate came out in 1965 (Christmas 1964) and has been very
> > popular ever since (although it was shrunken down to 48x48 many years ago).
> >
> > And a comment on another post, black bricks, which came out in 1962 (again,
> > Christmas 1961), were produced all at once in all brick sizes (except the 2x8,
> > 2x10 bricks) and a year later in all small plate sizes. Black bricks were
> > available in all these sizes in spare parts packs, but ironically were found in
> > very few sets until Lego trains came into production.
> >
> > Gary Istok
>
> Normal grey bricks like 2x2, 2x3, and 2x4 were available in abundance in 1960/61
> in expansion sets like 218, 219 and 220. Also, as far as I know, grey plates
> were used in 1957 in set 323, Train.
>
> Arne, Copenhagen
Hello Arne,
I have to politely disagree with you. If what I am thinking is correct, you are
seeing what appears to be grey parts in the #218 (2x4 bricks), #219 (2x3
bricks), #220 (2x2 bricks), #221 (1x2 bricks), #222 (1x1 bricks) #223 (1x1 round
bricks) and #224 (2x2 macaroni bricks) spare parts packs in the early 1960's
catalogs. Is it possible that you are looking at the color box in the corner by
each element in the catalog. What sometimes appears to be a grey parts box, is
actually for clear parts.
Do the catalog(s) that you are looking at show BOTH grey and clear? If not,
then I think you are seeing clear, not grey.
Check out this Austrian 1961 Lego catalog. The bricks show what appears as
gray, but is actually clear:
http://horst-lehner.mausnet.de/lego/katalog/gk61a/GK61-2.JPG
And on that same page, the 700E 10x20 thick baseplates show GREY, not clear.
You can see how close those colors are.
Gary Istok
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| (...) Normal grey bricks like 2x2, 2x3, and 2x4 were available in abundance in 1960/61 in expansion sets like 218, 219 and 220. Also, as far as I know, grey plates were used in 1957 in set 323, Train. Arne, Copenhagen (20 years ago, 3-Dec-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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