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I have a question regarding the use of "wench" in conversation. I always have considered it a derrogatory term for females but see it used frequently in Lugnet postings, especially Pirate Wench and Forest Wench. I know I've heard the term used in (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Well, I had an auction for my roommate regarding a pirate "wench", but I did not use that word there, here it is: (URL) think I deleted the pictures recently off my website, but the rest of it is still there!) Good question, most realize that (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) That's the context of the word I thought it was for. I know I wouldn't say to any of my girl friends, "Come here, wench." My lil ole dictionary thesaurus calls wench "informal term for a young woman" and considering the timeline of the above (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general)
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Markus Wolf <croutons@usa.net> wrote in message news:Frt3uE.LA7@lugnet.com... (...) always (...) frequently (...) hate to (...) comments? Wench originally meant, 'young woman' in a positive context. I personally attach the meaning 'beautiful young (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I don't know, I've seen people insert "babe" for "wench" with the Pirate case, and come to think of it, the Forest case as well. It's derogatory in any case, but since I hear women use it about each other all the time I consider it "fair (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I have a different interpretation... In my perception, wench can be a derogatory term in many contexts....BUT....I view wench as a caste or occupation as in medieval society...a mere statement of fact or station in a hierarchy... By extension, (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) slightly off topic...BUT... ok how about fascist or malevolent "dictatrix"? = ) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) To put a bit of historical context in... A wench is just a term for a young woman, in 'medieval speak'. It's not quite polite, but not exactly rude, either. Kind of like using 'girl' in today's society (or, depending on area, 'chick' or (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Well, Merriam-Webster defines it as: 1a: a young woman: girl b: a female servant 2: a lewd woman: prostitute From the etymology I'm guessing that the latter (derogatory) meaning came later (16th century), because the word originally comes from (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) always (...) to (...) [snip] (...) Re: Wench - the term was used to describe a serving woman in the middle ages. Not politically incorrect at that time. Now, it is a derogatory comment. In fact, it is a very useful derogatory comment. Vanna (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ed, (...) Hey, she spins those letters very well! ;) (...) Well, read some books about her, look at her life, she what she believes in, read her book, it takes a government, ah, village, etc. She is a very devout leftist. And no, not all Democrats (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hehe. Debate's over so I don't have to point out that you don't have to be a Marxist to be a bad person... Hillary isn't a Marxist, but she's a bad person nonetheless. ++Lar (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Edward Sanburn writes: [snip] And no, not all Democrats are Marxists, (How many (...) Well there's a fine figure to admire. James Trafficant, the man that took money from a "Supposed" mob-figure and then the mob (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ed, Boy, Ed, you sure an interesting person. (...) Boy, Ed, the ability to iron a sure sure qualifies someone to have a House seat, huh? I would love to see what your thoughts on qualifications are. James happens to be one of the few Democrats that (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Some find me very interesting, thank you. (...) man (...) him (...) and (...) How do you iron a sure? :') Qualifications: One would definitely be that you have to pay your taxes. (...) James happens to be one of the few Democrats that (...) Of (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ed, (...) Well, Ed, since i don't know the particulars on this one, why don't you inform us of it? I do remember something along the lines of congress people now being under the same laws oas we, the citizens, are. If he did not pay his taxes, he (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd say that calling anyone a nazi is pretty strong language that should be used with care and restraint. By calling someone a nazi, you are accusing them of possessing the same moral character as a group that practiced the worst systematic (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) err..typo: make that "would." (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok. My bad. Last time. Change that back to "wouldn't." (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Make up your mind and get back to us, why don'tcha? :-) -Shiri (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right. A new rule for myself: If I feel compelled to drink a Diet Coke, a Fresca, and 7 cups of coffee at work, I should not/cannot/will not allow myself to post messages until I have de-toxed. (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good idea. And remember to take those mental pills. One is prone to talk to oneself if one forgets one's medication. -Shiri FUT o-t.fun (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Have the drugs drugs taken taken effect effect yet yet? --Todd (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Almost as bad as mine, one pot of coffee, six or seven Diet Mountain Dews so far! :) Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Edward Sanburn writes: Proof would be (...) (URL) with these (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ed "Boxer" Jones <edboxer@aol.com> wrote in message news:Fru7GM.1s7@lugnet.com... (...) frequently (...) hate (...) comments? (...) ages. (...) In (...) "wench" to (...) mayor (...) last (...) Would you care to back up your "skyrocketed" claim with (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nnnnnot Yyyyyet. My nervousness, irritability, and incoherent babbling confirm that, yes, caffeine is a drug. Well, ok...the incoherent babbling probably only confirms other things. BTW Shiri...caffeine and my mental drugs don't mix. (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) You are a dangerous man. Happy rush-hour drive home! (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Ed, (...) from "TRAFICANT TOOK DONATION FROM WIFE OF INDICTED MOB FIGURE", or Gorgano Landscaping Company. Whether or not this company is dealing with the mob or not, it is still a legal contribution, unless I am reading something wrong here. As for (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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James, (...) Oh, I am evil and dangerous now! Ha! No, I am still working here at AEI, until 9PM or 10PM at least. We have 4 projects due on the 31st of this month! Then I have to work on my other project, which will be revealed soon, hopefully. (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) It's not a real rule. Just a running joke. See: (URL) a "low bandwidth suitable" version of the jargon file) or (URL) original... same content, different presentation) If you want to call Guliani a Nazi that's fine by me. But I think NY would (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry, (...) Really? I remember I got flagged by it once, by you Larry, so is it real here as well? (...) Indeed. (...) The LP party was the one who nominated Stern? Wow. That is interesting. I remember he was running for something, but I don't (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) agree, although who can say for sure what the facts are...) "Although Traficant was acquitted in criminal court, he was less successful in civil court. His latest financial disclosure form indicates that he still owes more than $100,000 to the (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's not real here either. It's not real anywhere. However some newsgroup denizens do tend to view using hitler in an argument as a sign of weak rhetoric. That's been extended, in characteristic internet style, to be the joke of as soon as you (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Coke, a (...) allow (...) We just pulled two months of 12-18 hour days (no weekends) to get the latest release of our <well known server-level anti-virus> software out, and my cow- orkers were amazed at my ability to remain focused, though I (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) to (...) aquittal, (...) Considering that the Civil Court decision was in 1984, and that there is no appeal on file, and the statute of limitations has run out. Owning back taxes and then not paying the back taxes owed is not paying taxes. (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, your reading is fishy. From the article: "Although Traficant was acquitted in criminal court, he was less successful in civil court. His latest financial disclosure form indicates that he still owes more than $100,000 to the Internal (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, Guillani serves only himself and his ego, not his voting constituent. (...) one (...) And you didn't burn your LP card!!! :') (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ed, (...) So, he gets acquitted in a criminal case, and somehow, in civil court, he owes 100,000 to the US tax court for taking bribes? That is what is fishy, Ed. Maybe your reading on it seems a little strange, hence, fishy. Why isn't the IRS after (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK. That's the first I heard about the 1984 part, but I wasn't reading that closely, I had a project plan to tweak. But what are we debating here, anyway? The subject doesn't seem to match the words. Traficant is a garden variety pol. Scott (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) According to the strict definition of the word, Nazi is very appropriate for the Clintons and liberals of their bent. It involves a totalitarian control of industry and the economy, and is similar to Fascism - both of which (Nazi and Fascist) (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) c /Guillani/Giuliani/ ?? I'm not sure. I'd expect a New Yorker to know how to spell it, though so if you say it's actually the way you spelled it, sorry! Er, who are we talking about here... HRC, RG, Howard Stern, or all of the above? :-) I'd (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is it just me or is everyone feeling down this week , i've had a wretched week for no appaerent reason and the only thing which brought me back to me usual cheerful self was SLEEEPPP and Minifig therapy-Smiling is infectious.no if i would not (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Now would be a good time to quote my favorite mug, "Coffee. The 100% natural replacement for sleep." The pic shows a very jittery man with a table full of hot cups o'coffee... :-) -Shiri (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Larry, I think it all started when, in the context of defining a wench, I called Hillary a Marxist wench, and Ed, obviously a Hillary fan, got disjointed and started laying out all this other stuff. I just just Traficant as an example of me liking (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) LOL A guy at the last place I worked had a T-shirt he wore once which said Sleep is just a caffeine substitute :) --Todd (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Yeah, but what do everyone's kidneys do on their day off???? Pete Callaway (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Why, isn't it obvious? They sleep, of course! An eternal sleep... :-) -Shiri (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Well, they may nod off during a bout of renal cholic, but the host body sure ain't doin' much sleepin'! Try passing one of those suckers and you'll wish they could substitute caffeine for morphine! ;-) Pete Callaway (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I agree on this. It's just as strange as calling anyone you don't like as "leftist" or "marksist" or whatever...:-) Selçuk (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yet it is easy to demonstrate that liberals are leftist and marxist, while the label of nazi is not at all applicable to Giulliani. Applying the label correctly is not hyperboly. Applying a label incorrectly, when it doesn't remotely ressemble (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Selçuk, (...) Well, sir, when you exhibit classical signs of leftism, I will cal you a leftist. IF you don't like Gulliani, fine, but calling him a Nazi is typical liberal / Democratic rhetoric. If a call Al Sharpton a racist, then I am at fault, (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Note that I think Scott is speaking in the abstract here, he's not accusing Sel of being leftist per se. (...) NO WAY! You can only be a racist if you're a male WASP. Everyone else is part of the oppressed, and therefore, by definition, can't (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry, (...) I am. Just got a little steamed under the collar. (...) According to liberal thinking, yes! (...) diversity. I guess I better get reprogrammed into compliance with liberal / diversity thinking. Scott S. (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) part (...) I can't recall a single liberal in my acquaintance that thinks this way. Yes, you will run into this line of reasoning in some black studies courses, but I don't think you will find too many people who buy into it. Bruce (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Trying to be seen as a leftist, may be, but I'm not sure about the possibility of being a "leftist" and "1st lady of USA" at the same time. Anyway, it was not the point. Your attitude about this subject (continuously ranting about "leftists" (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First, I'm not a Hillary fan. But given the choice between Hillary and Rudy, I'm going for Hillary. Because of the two evils, I'll take the one who is playing money games over the one who plays police brutality/murder cover-up games. If you (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ed, (...) Boy, was Rudy the one who fired the gun? Because you are linking him directly with police officers, so the police officers are not responsible? I guess you liked New York a lot better when it was a scumpit, filled with crime and sleaze. I (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Which one's which again? I get confused so easily. Police Brutality? Remember Waco. 'nuff said. Murder Coverup? What ever did happen to Vince Foster, anyway? HRC was so busy getting her hands on FBI files that we never did get a good (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) at (...) did (...) defame (...) From the comments above, you clearly could not have bothered reading the news articles involving the incident and Rudy's defamation of the victim. Faulty logic on my part? Your first statement is a prime example (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry, Forget the amusing diatribe, I'm much more interested in your opinion of Rudy G. Did you read any of the linked articles? (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ed, Well, I did happen to read the articles, BTW. (...) I did read them, thank you, and I still say, if Rudy did something wrong, have it investigated. Which I have said before about Trafficant, etc. (...) Well, your statements like "Rudy's reign of (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Rudy, (...) Nothing amusing about Waco, or bombing a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan on the day of impeachment, or vowing to save the Kosovars or any of the rest of it. And not much amusing about destroying our health care delivery system (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry, (...) Wel, I am honored, but I am hardly a poster child of the Christian RIght. I get into it too much with my pastor's wife for that! :) Scott S. P.S. Rudy did do some wrong things, from what I read (The juvenille record is pretty stupid), (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry, The only links you gave in the "Wench" discussion were for the "Nazi" law and the campus orientation. I read the Godwin? Law re: the longer the thread the probablity of Nazi/Hilter =1. The campus orientation article didn't bother me (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They're in this thread tree somewhere but I'll repeat them. (URL) shows a general view of agenda-ism... (nice coinage James) (URL) shows what poltroons the Clintonistas are. (URL) shows the mastery of the Big Lie. ++Lar (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry, I read them. While interesting reading, they suffer from everything that Scott has accused me of: name calling, lack of evidence, etc. The Mastery of the Big Lie was interesting in that it is an idea developed by Roger Ailes for the (...) (24 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Outside of academia. See, most of the people you and I know are fairly reasonable, fairly rational (not perfect, mind you)... we both presumably know mostly normal mainstream people. But in the bastions of orthodoxy where this stuff emanates, (...) (24 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sel (...) part (...) Not true even among liberal thinkers. Anyone of any race can be racist. He/She only has to believe one race to be superior to the others. (...) racism, (...) deserve (...) word (...) I think you all are hoping there are no (...) (24 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not true, even *in* academia. Certainly not among any of the African Studies people I know, and I'm in just such a supposed "bastion of orthodoxy." The people who deny racism can exist among minorities make an easy foil, but they're far rarer (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Gloria, (...) I think what Larry was saying here is when Al Sharpton called lynching on a Korean run grocery store in New York. I don't think anyone here is advocating lynching anyone, except for the types like Al Sharpton and perhaps James (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) right? (...) I know about the unrest between Korean storeowners and African-Americans. What I was trying to get at is that if one uses slang like "whitey" and states that only whites can be racist (not true) then one does need some sensitvity (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe Larry was using sarcasm to illustrate that very point. Bill (24 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are correct, sir! ++Lar (24 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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