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(...) It seems you didn't kick it hard enough as I still can't access the site :-( -Orion (22 years ago, 7-Oct-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Certainly not just you. There appears to have been some problems with one of the disks in the machine (or an error in the SCSI drivers in the kernel). I have kicked the machine sufficiently hard to make it work again, but I will try to find (...) (22 years ago, 7-Oct-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) unreachable since yesterday :-( willy (22 years ago, 7-Oct-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I have been unable to get a response from the Web server, for most of the weekend, nor login to the server as a PT admin. I've mailed Jacob this morning. Shame, I was hoping to hit some of the "Need admin review" files. Chris (22 years ago, 7-Oct-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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It's not just you, LP. We're all having the same problem. Moreover, the parts finally got a good lamppost. Since I use lab computers, I have to download for each one I sit at. (especially with the mis-credited solid head in the new version!) To all (...) (22 years ago, 7-Oct-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | ldraw.org running correctly?
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Are other people having trouble getting to ldraw.org or is it just me? I would have expected to see some posts about it if it was having trouble... and I'm not... so it's most likely me. Please email me to avoid clutter, and I'll summarize. Thanks! (22 years ago, 7-Oct-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | LDraw.org presenteert zich op LEGOWORLD 2002
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LDraw.org presenteert zich op LEGOWORLD 2002 Vrijwilligers en leden van LDraw.org zullen op LEGOWORLD een demonstratie- en informatie stand bemannen om het publiek kennis te laten maken met het "LDraw systeem van 3D CAD programma's". Hier kan je op (...) (22 years ago, 4-Oct-02, to lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: LDraw.org to present at LEGO WORLD 2002, Zwolle, Netherlands
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Sorry it took so long but I am now posting the Dutch version! Jaco "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:H39uq5.Luv@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) (22 years ago, 4-Oct-02, to lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: LDraw.org to present at LEGO WORLD 2002, Zwolle, Netherlands
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(...) Hi Stefan - Nothing that I know of on animation. We're doing basic stuff for the general public. I have no POV animation experience myself, but you might want to try asking around the Bouwsteen to see if any members have? You can check out the (...) (22 years ago, 4-Oct-02, to lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | [Parts Tracker] Please work the queue!
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Hello! I just wanted to strongly request the reviewers of the part tracker to work the queue of the tracker please. (URL) know there are several parts (e.g. like the Technic pneumatic things) who are hard to review but even if you dont own a part it (...) (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: LDraw.org to present at LEGO WORLD 2002, Zwolle, Netherlands
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Sounds great! I'll certainly drop by, might learn something new :) I'm particularly interested in POV rendering and animation. Will there be information on this, or will you only show the model construction process? Oh, I'll be there as well, (...) (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: ldraw.org MOTM & SOTM Winners for September 2002
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(...) (URL) "Excellent rendering..." :-) /Lars (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) Hi Ben - At this point, I *think* I'm the only American coming, but I'm not sure. Anyone else? -Tim (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Dear Tim, that are cool news! I'm looking forward for the Zwolle Legoworld event. I have been there last year and that show really rocks! Are you the only guest from over the pond so far? Regards, Ben (www.FGLTC.org) (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: LDraw.org to present at LEGO WORLD 2002, Zwolle, Netherlands
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(...) You know, everytime I think about MIBO, I start humming the tune 'Quiche Lorraine" by the B-52's. You'd have to hear it to understand... -- Terry K -- (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | ldraw.org MOTM & SOTM Winners for September 2002
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That time o' month, MOTM goes to Greg Overkamp for his "Brickmor Soccer Stadium". Quite the mega-model, I can see a lot of painstaking detail went into that beauty. SOTM to Stefan Hansson for his haunting "Alone". I just have to laugh everytime I (...) (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: LDraw.org to present at LEGO WORLD 2002, Zwolle, Netherlands
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(...) ROFL. MIBO *is* going for the ride, and doing some work there. More to come on that later, I guess. -Tim (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: LDraw.org to present at LEGO WORLD 2002, Zwolle, Netherlands
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(...) Cool. Knock 'em dead, Tim. So what building project you gonna scam parts for this time? ;-) -- Terry K -- (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | LDraw.org to present at LEGO WORLD 2002, Zwolle, Netherlands
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Reprinted from (URL) volunteers will be hosting a booth at LEGO WORLD 2002, to introduce the public to the LDraw system of 3D CAD tools. The area will contain a hands-on computer lab for event guests to gain firsthand experience, a classroom area (...) (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) !
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| | LDraw.org will be unavailable the next hour or so
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Our electrician is going to work on the power systems for the LDraw.org server (and "a few" other servers), so the LDraw.org web site will be unavailable for the next hour or so. Play well, Jacob (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | LDMC site moved AGAIN. :-)
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It is official and live: (URL) skippy! If no one cares, I am going to change the name to LDMC -- LDraw Mac Community. I'll slowly redo the site to reflect that it is a community now instead of a campaign. We're a community, right?.... right?..... (...) (22 years ago, 7-Sep-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: ldraw.org MOTM & SOTM Winners for August 2002
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(...) guy who rendered that in LDraw should get a prize or something! Just kidding, Jon; I love the scene. The purple zapper effect is very nice, as is the background and overall composition. Bravo! (And thanks for the nod in the credits). Dave! (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | ldraw.org MOTM & SOTM Winners for August 2002
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Wow. Another summer gone... And the winners of the August MOTM and SOTM are: Anshul Sirur's chess model "Checkmate" and Jon Palmer's Spiff-inspired scene "THE SCUM BEINGS CLOSE IN!". Vote on the September entries here: (URL) Terry K -- (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: LDMC site moved.
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(...) Um, ok. Can I get mac@ldraw.org as a forwarding email too?... I like mac.ldraw.org. That way I dont' have to revamp the entire site before I can put it up. I do want to redo the site. I believe Matt G. wanted to also, and almost got it all (...) (22 years ago, 1-Sep-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yeah, it sounds like a good idea to me. For a totally separate site, it could be mac.ldraw.org, or we could stuff it in the current nav layout under www.ldraw.org/community/mac/ -Tim (22 years ago, 1-Sep-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Why don't you ask about moving the content to ldraw.org? Seems like a reasonable place for it... Don (22 years ago, 1-Sep-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Looks like the subpart got mis-handled in the rename. It should be OK now. Chris (22 years ago, 31-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Or is it me? when I went to this part (URL) clicked on either (URL) get a dead link... (is this the right group to ask?) (22 years ago, 31-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Yet another idea - Portable LDraw system
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(...) Go for it. :) I was taking the approach of grepping the part files for author names, and boiling the list down from there. Steve (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) [...] Looks good, short and sensible. (...) Shall I do it? Or do you expect to find time to do it soon? Play well, Jacob (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Yet another idea - Portable LDraw system
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[XFUT: lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw] (...) The current text of the license is: ===...=== LDraw.org Parts Library User License version 0.9, May 3 2001 This library is provided 'as-is', without any express or implied warranty. In no event will the authors (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Mindstorms Parts?
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Thanks. The ones I'm looking for seem to be in Electric; it looks like my initial install was bad; I cleared it out, reinstalled, updated, etc. and all the Mindstorms stuff is there. Sorry for the bother =) -Brendan "Ross Crawford" (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Mindstorms Parts?
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(...) Hi Brendan, Most of the Mindstorms parts are listed under the Technic categories. Hope this helps. ROSCO (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Mindstorms Parts?
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I've seen a bunch of models out there that use the Mindstorms parts (e.g. the RCX) but I can't seem to find them in the Ldraw site files. Where do I get the parts files for Mindstorms? I would love to do some modeling but need Mindstorms parts to do (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | [Parts Tracker] Coming Soon: Email Notification!
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The following notice was emailed to all Parts Tracker users today. If you did not receive this email, please contact me by email. If you've got questions, comments, etc, let's hear them! :) Steve ===...=== Hello! You are recieving this message (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: MOTM and SOTM winners for July 2002
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(...) I'm sorry, I wasn't precise enough. What I was suggesting was something a bit more "nuanced" than a straight rollover. (which I have requested in the past) Rather than just requesting a rollover no matter what, my next entry will carry a note (...) (22 years ago, 14-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: MOTM and SOTM winners for July 2002
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(...) I hadn't noticed that. Is it possible to post a permanent rollover request, so I don't have to remember it whenever I have submitted a model or scene? Play well, Jacob (22 years ago, 14-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Rollover requests are SOP. But the submitters must request a rollover, and few ever do. -- Terry K -- (22 years ago, 13-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yep. But what is going to happen this month is fine, I guess... I wouldn't change the rules out from under this month's entry. They win. :-) Going forward... This may be too complex but perhaps you could roll over those previous month entries (...) (22 years ago, 11-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hi Larry, There is only one. At least that was all I had - there may have been more, but my email crapped out. So yes, that one will be a default winner. I've not given a lot of thought about what to do when there is only one entry. Or no (...) (22 years ago, 10-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: MPD spec
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(...) I'd like to weigh in on this issue. I like using the .ldr extension for everything. I also like being able to refer to another MPD file (with the .ldr extension) from within an MPD file. I also like being able to call the the first subfile the (...) (22 years ago, 8-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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I think I am going to load referenced subparts only and use the first one of recursive mpd files, ignoring the rest for now for LD4DModeler's MPD support. Roland. (...) (22 years ago, 8-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I can appreciate your concern. For now, let me develop a document that treats the two specs as variations. If you're unhappy with my results, we could easily rework it into two totally separate standards. BUT, IMO, a new standard that breaks (...) (22 years ago, 7-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Good point. I like the idea of a clearly defined new version of the file format. This would be a good point also to rename multi-part files in the second version to something relating to .LDR - perhaps .MPL could make the distinction? -Tim (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Or perhaps MPD and LD2. We have discussed the time for a new, not LDraw compatible standard years ago. I don't like the idea of an "almost LDraw compatible" standard. Isn't it better to go all the way with maybe type 6, 7, 8... commands than (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Paths, explicit drive references, and the case of file names
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(...) I would rather say that I had been lucky with the design of the program. I don't think I had to change much to make it work as you requested, but you can compare this and the previous version of the source code. Play well, Jacob (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: MPD spec
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(...) [...] That looks like the right solution. Play well, Jacob (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Paths, explicit drive references, and the case of file names
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(...) Wow! That was fast! :) Steve (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) No, I hadn't. I was taking the view that MPD files are not compatible with LDraw, and I was not too concerned with making them 'more compatible'. See my other recent message for a suggested way to standardize both "LDraw-ready" and "never (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Paths, explicit drive references, and the case of file names
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(...) Okay. I have made that an option with the latest edition of my MPD splitter: (URL) Here is my list of how software can handle this, in order from least (...) Except for the option of prompting before creating a directory, I have implemented (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: MPD spec
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(...) Have you considered that that means that MPD files will no longer be able to be rendered by LDraw? (or have I overlooked something?) (...) Yes, but it is a single-level subroutine system like in C. (I complain about it in C, but that is (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: MPD spec
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(...) These are good points. Perhaps we should define the spec with two levels: "strict MPD" and "expanded MPD". Strict MPD would require everything necessary to render files with ldraw: - All names on FILE statements follow the DOS filenaming (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev) !
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| | Re: MPD spec
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(...) Because we ought to differentiate between files that can be processed directly by LDraw, and those which have to be filtered through another tool (a MPD splitter) before LDraw can render them. If we decide to scrap LDraw compatibility, this is (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Paths, explicit drive references, and the case of file names (Was: MPD spec)
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(...) :-( I have fixed my MPD splitter. The updated version will show up on: (URL) tonight (or early tomorrow). Play well, Jacob (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Paths, explicit drive references, and the case of file names (Was: MPD spec)
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(...) I tend to disagree. Given that the whole point of MPD files is to allow LDraw files to be more portable across multiple machines, I think absolute paths should be disallowed. It doesn't make sense to me to allow absolute paths in a file format (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I disagree with this. Or, if we keep this approach for MPD, I'll want another standard language extension for embedding "macros" in LDraw files. I tend to view (and use) FILEs in MPD files as "subroutines", and I'd prefer they were designed to (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: MPD spec
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(...) I wasn't here for the .ldr extension discussions, so this may well have already been covered, but why not ".ldr"? It seems to me that any tool with built-in support for the .ldr extension should also support the MPD format. And the MPD format (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Me too. And originally, you actually had to split a MPD file before you could view the contents. I would prefer that we stick to this way of treating MPD files as if they are splitted/unpacked before their content is processed. (...) That is (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: MPD spec
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(...) I think so, too. I see MPD files almost like ZIP files. I know that there are differences, like inside WinZip you can generally only view standalone files without unzipping them first. (The reason I reignited this thread was I wanted to make (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Paths, explicit drive references, and the case of file names (Was: MPD spec)
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(...) why not just say any of the following (':', '/' and '\') can be used as a delimiter, and it doesn't matter which you use - it's up to the program to translate any of those to the correct one for the OS? (...) defenitly! :) Dan (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Paths, explicit drive references, and the case of file names (Was: MPD spec)
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(...) I'd prefer we say that local/absolute references are allowed, but provide guidelines to show that relative paths are usually better - easier to manage, easier to share, etc. (...) Yes, yes, and I'm guessing yes. (...) I think you are correct - (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: MPD spec
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(...) Good question. Different programs have more (or less) success at handling this. L3Lab seems to have no trouble with it. LDLite usually does ok, but not always (unfortunately, I don't have an example). (...) There's no special syntax, the (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: MPD spec
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(...) Auggh! Hey, it's not too late -- there is no official BFC spec. Yet. :> Steve (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: MPD spec
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(...) Right. Any "MPD splitter" program should include code to check that filenames and paths are valid, and either report missing paths, or create them, or ask the user before creating them, or provide options (ie, command line parameters) to (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: MPD spec
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(...) MPD files should not be named ".ldr" (or ".dat")! Jacob (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: MPD spec
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(...) Done. Play well, Jacob (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Paths, explicit drive references, and the case of file names (Was: MPD spec)
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(...) I am not sure about explicit drive references. Actually, I think we should limit it to _relative_ paths. We should also decide on a preferred - or maybe even fixed - directory name delimiter. I suppose that it should be "\", even though Unix (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I would even call it a bad thing to do. But then I have a habit of putting "FILE" meta-command in all my files, so maybe I should stop criticising and try to fix my own bad habits first. > It's very easy to overwrite the main file with if the (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I have ldr files with up to 4 levels of nested sub files, and LDview, L3Lab, and MLCad all appear to render them fine. ROSCO (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I don't know about the other parsers, but as far as LDView is concerned an LDraw file is an LDraw file is an LDraw file. It makes no distinctions between ldr files, dat files, and mpd files. If it sees a 0 FILE command, it starts its MPD (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I don't know how ldglite and other parsers work, but I guess they don't create files with paths and all, but rather objects somewhere in RAM, with 'filenames' just as a property. But if you call the procedure SaveToFile(Path+FileName) to save (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) This is a very good question, and is even more important with the migration to a single filename suffix (.LDR). What happens when your type-1 line refers to a LDR that happens to be a multi-part dat? Cheers, - jsproat (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Another thing I realised the other day is that in Australia, the opposite of clockwise is generally anti-clockwise rather than counter-clockwise, so the BFC CERTIFY should really be CW or ACW, but it's a bit late to worry about it now! ROSCO (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) FWIW both the ldlite and l3 parsers in ldglite are OK with paths in an MPD file. Just make sure the path in the 0 FILE line matches the path on the type 1 line that pulls in the subfile. If they don't match it reports that it can't find the (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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I was wondering, didn't see it discussed in the text, is it permitted / custom to have ldraw files in a mpd file reference other mpd files? If so is the first part in the file used or is there some naming convention pointing to the correctsubpart (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hmm. I don't remember if there was a lot of discussion about putting paths on the 0 FILE line. So I won't say for absolute sure that the program should allow them. I'd say any software that *thinks* it needs a directory, and crashes when it's (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Err, the entry for MPD in the glossary: (URL) here: (URL) is a bad link. Could you update the glossary to point to the new spec? Don (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) MPD Workshop cannot handle a reference to a non-existing directory, or rather, it does not create a folder if necessary. For example: (URL) line: 0 FILE s\41342s01.dat assumes that there already exists the folder 's\' in the target directory, (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Good point. Should probably also add the following... - There shouldn't be multiple files with the same name. - paths are allowed, so are explicit drive references. But the capability should be use with restraint, since it can easily make it (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) One addition that might be useful for people using the spec is to explicitly state that other than the first file being the main one, there is no implicit order to the remaining files. This is implied by the existing spec, but not actually (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Great! One question: I think I've seen some MPD files with the extension .dat and named exactly the same as its main model sub-file. IMHO, it's a risky thing to do. It's very easy to overwrite the main file with if the mpd is named the same. (It (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I don't know if we ever agreed on it; I don't remember the discussion of it at all. But I included it in the page. (...) Oyez, oyez! Please read the new Multi-Part DAT (MPD) Language Extension specification at (URL). All comments, suggestions, (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Not at all. It seems like a very sensible thing to do. I presume that the update will include the "NOFILE" meta-command (if we ever got around to agree on it). Please announce it, when the copy is ready, so I can change my web pages to point (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Jacob, Do you mind if I copy (and update) the information on your MPD page to www.ldraw.org/reference/specs? Steve (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I only saw one MOTM entry. Is that correct or am I having troubles? I would think if there was only one entry, it will win... why make us vote in that case? (although the automated system may not handle that very well I guess) (22 years ago, 4-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hi All, Sorry for being late. Vacation time. :-) Missing those margaritas on the Mexican beach already.... This months winner for Model Of The Month is Shimpei Ohsumi for a remarkably accurate rendition of the Honda Bite. Love that minimalist (...) (22 years ago, 4-Aug-02, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) !
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(...) Thanks for the moderating comment. Michael, here is a suggestion for what you can write about the rights to your specification: © Copyright 2002, Michael L. Since this document is made available free of charge, I can not make any promises (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hello, I think we should wait what Michael is coming up with before making harsh comments. I followed this whole discussion from the start and i think it's always right to state your opinion - but please do this in a constructive way. Thank you. (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) OK, leave it in, but it still makes me nervous. Let's wait and see if Michael comes to his senses and drops the license. Don (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I know. But if we have to disable LDGLite on Munin, that basically means that we have to deactivate the whole parts tracker. And if it should have any real meaning, we should also stop distributing the LDraw parts library, since it probably (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Oops, I meant to put a link to this here. (URL) think everyone should read and think about it before they make any sort of decision involving licenses. Enjoy, Don (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Perhaps, but you and I are not lawyers, and from my viewpoint intellectual property law is a complete mess right now. Who knows what a lawyer might think. (...) I agree, that doesn't make much sense. When the topic came up on the Mac Ldraw (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yes, what's needed here is NO license, not a NEW license. Michael if you're using MLCAD to bring visitors to your site in order to drum up business for your software company, that's fine. Just ask politely and we'll provide the links for (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) If your new license for puts any restrictions whatsoever on the right to use or implement your extensions, you can just as well save your own time and leave it as it is. Play well, Jacob (who might decide to act like the BOFH he really is) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I do not think it is necessary, since the version of LDGLite we are using was developed before the MLCAD documentation was published. But maybe I should ban all non-Open Source software on Munin? (but that it would prevent the distribution of (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hi, i've found some more commands in MLCad which I introduced totaly new, ... but long time ago. So there is this ROTATION command, which was used at the early days of MLCad instead of ROTSTEP. Later I learned that this conflicts with LD-Lite. So I (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Don (& all) - The fact that the MLCAD extensions are under such license makes me very nervous as well. I am of the opinion that any extensions used with the LDraw file format should be documented on LDraw.org and made freely available for use (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Meanwhile, Steve could you switch the parts tracker to use MLCAD instead of ldglite to generate the image files? The whole license thing and especially the "liable for damages" part makes me nervous. I don't want to be sued just because (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) That, and the fact that MLCAD adds two 0 ROTATION statements to the header of every model file it edits. (...) Actually, only commented-out versions of the ROTATION meta-statement have appeared in parts (ie, '0 0 ROTATION'). The submit process (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Perhaps the use of the "ROTATION CENTER" meta statement in the parts library can be changed into a different, non-licensed format? The word "CENTER" breaks the standing LDraw tradition of using British English terms anyway. In my opinion it (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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