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  Re: Voting page for 9906
 
(...) Yes you're right it should be named 4x4x3.5, my mistake, and the origin is rather obscure. Any opinions, anyone, on where the origin should be located - on the small barrel the origin is at the top to aid placement of a 2x2 round plate as a (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: L.A. Times article on Legoland 'masters'
 
[cross-posted to lugnet.cad.dev. Followup to the appro ng] (...) Lego (...) Augh! LDraw'ers, get your pixels out. Steve (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
I like this idea, but maybe two messages, one in the morning one in the evening. This way it makes it easier, because you can reply to things that came in during the night, and then to things that came in during the day. I think we ought to hold off (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: Voting page for 9906
 
[group snipped to lugnet.cad.dev] (...) That's fine with me. If people would rather have the pannier placed under Minifig (or Minifig Accessories), I'll also rotate & relocate the part, so it will sit on part #973 (minifig torso) by default. Steve (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Voting page for 9906
 
I realize many authors have been away on vacations and may have missed these questions/comments. On some of these, I would like responses before I vote on them (even if the response is "what are you talking about?" 2500c01: I don't think the lights (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
(...) Though this last sentenced looks quoted, I assume that you Greg "author of zany sigs :-)" Majewski wrote it. I'm not frustrated like a lot of folks (for obvious reasons) but where the future of an individual with regard to a community is at (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
How about a 1 post per day limit to the cad.* heirarchy as a probationary condition? This would force Jonathan to more carefully consider what he posts, and would give everyone a break from the deluge of sometimes rude or irritating posts. Is this (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
(...) Wow, you must be REALLY frustrated with all this :-| (...) You're missing the entire point of what 80 million people have already told you, "But it WAS posted." You are basically saying, "Well, if I hadn't have posted it, people wouldn't have (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Reverse engineering (Was: Why TLG doesn't have a leg to stand on anymore.)
 
(...) You have (as I read the law) been allowed to do that in EU for a few years now. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
(...) The message was posted by me. my newsreader seemed to stuff it up and post to .geek as well as mailing it to tore so the message was posted by me but it should never have been so therefore it should not have been seen by people on this group. (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
(...) According to the NNTP headers in the message, it was posted by you to lugnet.off-topic.geek on Tuesday, August 3, 1999 at 11:16:38 GMT, from studun26.murdoch.edu.au, using Netscape 4.03 for Win95. Still baffled? (...) Apparently you posted it (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
(...) Tore (...) Agreed to all of Eric's above points. (...) Going solely by what Tore posted, no, he was not rude. Mercy triumphs over justice (but each has its place), so let's take these following points one at a time, not as a convoluted lump, (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) Both l2p and l3p have their advantages depending on the goal of the user. l3p is great if you want a rendered version of a model, no matter the parts. l2p is great if you want a more detailed/smooth render and the parts are available. Thanks (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
(...) No no no my friend. You cannot say in the least that your post was not rude or that it was cancelled out in effect by Tore's kind reply. Just because Tore himself didn't react at you doesn't mean it was rude. Posting mishaps happen, and (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  I apologize
 
I apologize to everyone I have annoyed, flamed, pissed off or offended. I am sorry for saying things like: Where can I get xyz Can someone please make me xyz How do i make xyz Has anyone made xyz I need xyz Here is my attempt at xyz, is there (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
(...) He actually took the time to answer my questions, therefore he does not consider the post rude and since it was meant only for his eyes that means that the opinions of the rest of the group as to the rudeness of the post do not matter as the (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
(...) mail folder I did) And that makes it OK? It was still extremely rude whether you sent it to Tore or posted it. It showed no respect for Tore at all. Eric Remove ".nospam" when replying by E-mail. The New England LEGO Users Group (URL) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Please move this discussion to lugnet.admin.general (was: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET)
 
(...) Oops! Adam, the 'Followup-To' header needs to be part of the message header, not the body of the message. (...) The above message should have been posted with the 'Followup-To' header set to a lugnet.admin.general. (But don't get mad at Adam; (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
(...) I only sent it to tore himself (at least acording to the message in my sent mail folder I did) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
(...) LOL! :o) (...) Heh....that sounds like a good stress relief device :P I wonder if this could go down in the books as 'Wilson Therapy.' ;o) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Commonwealth Edison: What do you do with OUR power? Get paid to (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
OK, for some reason, I love to vote on things (I.E. voting in elections and the like) but for JW, seems like a waste. I will do so soon, however! BTW! (Back to Work) Scott Sanburn (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
I know, but with politics and work getting most of my anger, a quick delete works for me. The quote to Onyx (sp?)?) did it for me, I guess. Scott Sanburn (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
(...) No, you're missing out! I occasionally read his posts for a quick laugh or two. [1] Greg "..A year later, I was transferred to the moon, worse pay, better hours.." Majewski citrusx__@yahoo.com (URL) Though they usually end up with me shouting (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
Hi Scott, Please Note: You don't have to participate in the vote, however the outcome will be decided by those who do participate. So please participate one way or the other. Your vote will count. Thanks, Adam Scott Edward Sanburn (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
I found a simpler solution to JW's posts. I delete them if I see them. If he improves, fine. If not, in the trash it goes. Scott Sanburn (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  CFV: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET
 
Followup-To: lugnet.admin.general This is a Call For Votes (CFV) After much discussion it has been decided that an open public vote needs to be made about this situation. The vote is at the end of this message. Please read the Problem Summary and (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.starwars)
 
  Re: Top 10 posters in lugnet.cad.dev
 
Jeff Stembel wrote in message ... (...) I am surprised I even showed up!!! D M Garcia "A pessimist is an experienced optimist" (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Any 2X2 round areas w/ peghole?
 
there's the newer wheels from 3051 Blaze Attack, also used in the y-wing set different color.. though I don't believe those have been drawn yet??? unless they are older.. though it's bigger than 2x2... it might give you the inside at least... (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Any 2X2 round areas w/ peghole?
 
Can anyone think of an L-Drawn piece with a section similar to a 2x2 round brick with a peghole? I'm working on the R2D2 body and would love to steal this section from another part. -John Van (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Top 10 posters in lugnet.cad.dev
 
(...) Yeah.. that's probably about the time I switched ISP's... so I had to re-register... I wonder if I can get the Mookie back in here... :) I'm sure a lot lower on the lists then I expected to be.. of course I think I send more stuff e-mail on (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why TLG doesn't have a leg to stand on anymore.
 
(...) Copyright laws are pretty the much the same for the reasons you list, with a few exceptions. However, lego cad programs don't infringe on *any* copyrights, only Trademarks and (possibly, but not likely) intelectual property rights. (...) It (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Top 10 posters in lugnet.cad.dev
 
(...) Wow! Fouteenth place! I didn't think it'd be that high! :) (...) Looks to me like someone changed their posting setup. ;) (...) Whoa Nelly! Third! Cool! :) (...) Yes! I made it into the top ten! ;) (...) Third again. Cool! (...) Sixth! Cool! (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why TLG doesn't have a leg to stand on anymore.
 
Leonardo Zide wrote in message <37B811B3.16EA370B@c...com.br>... (...) Reminds of hearing that all windows -emulation projects (like WINE) should be moved to australia because you are allowed to reverse engineer there. (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Top 10 posters in lugnet.cad.dev
 
(...) Thanks for pointing that out. I feel much better now... Serves me right for not scrolling down to the end of the original message. Steve (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) you (...) I know, but I was talking about the three libraries in the statement above, not L3P. (...) True. (...) Exactly. (...) This is exactly the reason for joining efforts: to handle all parts, yet use the best quality parts where possible. (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Top 10 posters in lugnet.cad.dev
 
(...) Lehman) wrote: (...) ---...--- (...) as many (...) lately. (...) messages? You (...) ---...--- (...) Yeh, well, here you do too, almost. 100 more posts than the person with the second most posts is a considerable difference. :) I couldn't (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Top 10 posters in lugnet.cad.dev
 
Steve, in your case "better behaved" means lots of posts, as your content is always so good! -John Van Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:37b82276.754267...net.com... (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: My Final Word On All This
 
(...) But don't be afraid to ask *good* questions. The hard part is to know the difference between good and bad questions. Before you post a question, ask yourself: "Can I answer this myself?" (...) Good idea. I hope we can all do that. Steve (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Top 10 posters in lugnet.cad.dev
 
(...) Ouch. I had no idea what a big-mouth I've been. Nearly twice as many posts as anyone else. I *think* I've been better-behaved lately. Todd, could you run another analysis, but only count recent messages? You can decide what recent means. (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
I support what you are trying to do in the voting but it may be more straightforward to present a series of up/down propositions and commentary that the broader ones will supercede the narrower ones if passed. (...) Larry Pieniazek larryp@novera.com (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Why TLG doesn't have a leg to stand on anymore.
 
(...) I thought that most countries have signed the same agreement about copyright laws, making the laws the same almost everywhere (in about 200 countries at least). (...) Or you could find a place that doesn't have copyright laws and put the (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) If you liked the Windows version, you're going to be even more amazed when the Linux version is ready. :) I just hope that someone else gets impressed and offers me a job... (I'm going to graduate this semester and I realized I don't want to (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) About these voting options, the votes for a more severe restriction should carry over to a less severe restriction if that particular restriction recieves the 2/3 majority votes. For example: 25% vote for removal from lugnet.* 50% vote for (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) First to make clear: L2P uses a library of parts, about 630 by the latest update L3P uses LDraw parts and converts them directly, as I know, so with L3P you can get all parts which are in your parts-directory. So the discussion shlul be about (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Why TLG doesn't have a leg to stand on anymore.
 
Despite the dire Subject line, I am only refering to good things for people who author "lego" software. There are the PR problems that Mookie mentioned, but there is more than that. Lego has lost the IP rights in several countries (due to time). (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
Snipped most of the message... ok.. all of it.. :-) I have some thoughts on why TLG hasn't thought about trying to shut this down... I'm sure they already know the group as a whole isn't very happy with them. To turn around, and try to shut down a (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Top 10 posters in lugnet.cad.dev
 
Hey 34's my lucky number! Wow! Adam Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:37b751b6.341452...net.com... (...) -- (...) -- (...) -- (...) -- (...) -- (...) -- (...) -- (...) -- (...) -- (...) -- (...) -- (...) -- (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
Thanks for all the suggestions. I believe I have solved this problem, but I will use everyone's suggestions when I need to post a question in the future. Thanks, Adam Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: My Final Word On All This
 
After reading all of these posts on this, I even addressed Jonathan personally at one time myself, I am glad to hear you say so, John. I for one would not like to see anyone kicked out, because I for one feel at home here with my fellow Lugheads. (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  My Final Word On All This
 
Here is my final word on all of this. 1.I will refrain from doing any parts development work except for 1 part at a time and i will keep working on that part until it is good enough, however long that takes. My first part will be the Baseplate 32 x (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Top 10 posters in lugnet.cad.dev
 
FWIW, data points. --Todd ---...--- lugnet.cad.dev - 2644 articles from 98 posters... 412 - Steve Bliss - 15.6% 261 - Jonathan Wilson - 9.9% 234 - Terry Keller - 8.9% 200 - Todd Lehman - 7.6% 158 - Tim Courtney - 6.0% 156 - John VanZwieten - 5.9% (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Whoops! There are two #5's up there, eh? :o) By the second #5, I really meant the lugnet.starwars group in particular, although other people may have discovered other areas of related concern, disgust, or disappointment. For instance, there's (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) <snipped good "Dear Jon" letter> Many good points, said in a good way. Unfortunately, I think it's all a bit too late. All these points have been mentioned before by several folks for awhile now. But thanks for saying them anyway. And welcome (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) A common priviledge here on lugnet is being able to post to any group, which would be revoked if the vote is against him. Exclusion from social acceptance could be achieved by no one answering his posts even with an "I don't know/don't (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) BTW, if the group does decide to hold a vote on this, I'll be sitting on the sideline -- I won't be casting a vote on this. For the record, however -- and this is only my opinion having followed this very closely since its inception -- I do (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) I don't think TLG has changed much since then. I also think TLG was blowing some smoke, and Carsten gave up too easily. I'm pretty sure Carsten could have made some cosmetic changes to satisfy TLG. Steve (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) "Leveraging the LDraw knowledge-base" :p (...) Isn't that something? I think it would make much more sense if everyone built their library using some obscure, *nix-based (that's a bit redundant) raytracing program. Steve (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 00:28:15 GMT, Joshua Delahunty <dulcaoin@alumni.cse.ucsc.edu> wrote: [Update on the story of BriCAD and Carsten Gnoerlich] Thanks for the information, Joshua. I hadn't heard of btopia. Heck, the last thing I knew, I was (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Suggestions for asking questions: Be as specific as possible. In this case, you are working on a specific detail, so you could post the part, with the problem-areas marked by comments: 0 *** The following 4 lines don't work right *** <bad line (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Well, yes and no, right? * Yes in the sense that "ostracism" means (1) "a method of temporary banishment by popular vote without trial or special accusation practiced in ancient Greece" and (2) "exclusion by general consent from common (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Some excellent advice (Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) I believe I am abiding by the letter, if not the spirit. If you notice, the mail list (and I believe the news group) headers show who I "really" am: X-Real-Life-Name: Christian Holtje In addition, the web list is even more explicit: From: The (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Some excellent advice (Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Yes, I concur, but I have a question for you, Doc. Did you used to play second base for Bud Abbott?;-) All seriousness aside, this isn't RTL, and although a few folks here are known by nicknames, they have been around and everyone *knows* (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) You continue to amaze, Leonardo. To have not been a programmer that recently, and to have come up with LeoCAD and make it work so well, it shocks me a little (in a good way). :) (...) I wouldn't go that far. In fact, I'd caution that we be (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
If you post a message along the lines of "I'm trying to make the crossbow and I am having trouble getting the intersection of where the loop folds into the stock, here's what I tried to do 1. bla 2. bla 3. bla That worked for me when I intersected (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Some excellent advice (Re: i admit i was wrong
 
The Doctor What wrote: <snip> Not to be terse, but the subject says it all. I've not seen you around here before recently, so in case no one's said it yet, welcome to LUGNET, and nice job on the advice. Thanks. (we all could (yes, even me, otherwise (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) You are probably more correct than me, I've never been able to talk to Carsten and I've never been able to use BriCad, Unix was very hard to install at that time and I wasn't a programmer (didn't knew much about computers). (...) You're right, (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Dear Jonathan; You *must* really want to be a part of this group to keep posting, but you really should use the shift key. I'm not sure what your plans are, but your actions concern me and are driving a large portion of this group's active (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) i am from austraila and i am 18 and studying at university. (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Absolutely. It goes on frequently in the world. (...) Ideally, it should be for the good of both. Hurting another's feelings isn't the issue (though it happens), and it never should be when there are things to be gained by both sides in a (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Revised Arched Latticed WIndow Pane
 
(...) No problem, you're welcome. (...) I'm certain it will be. (...) Yeah, well... :-) a) I overstated things just a _bit_ to Todd. I *have* all but stopped reading LUGNET unless and until there's a new vote in which case Terry wakes me up and (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dat.parts.primitives, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Revised Arched Latticed WIndow Pane
 
Hi Joshua, (...) Thanks for the information. I've submitted it to Terry, hopefully it will be in the next vote. Adam PS. Glad to have you back :) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dat.parts.primitives, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:4.2.0.58.199908...omm.com... (...) :) (...) Well I'm an old'un (28), but I was born on March 15th. :) Adam (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37B5A8FA.53861C...ger.net... (...) This is the type of thing I've been worried about. Is this doing more harm or good. I am a relatively new part author (1 year of experience). I'm working on a (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Heh cool :) Us Lugnet youngn's are all from around the same time of year :) (...) :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Commonwealth Edison: What do you do with OUR power? Get paid to surf the web! Visit: (URL) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) <puffs his chest out with pride> ;) (...) I couldn't agree more. One, I'm definitely not a parent :) and Two, I'm a teenager and am annoyed to death of (little) kids (c'mon, we've all been there). Now obviously, Jonathan isn't a *little* kid. (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) difference is less (...) March 4) (...) And then mine's March 14(2 years later) so we have three bdays within about two weeks time. Ryan "We're here to serve God, glorify Him, and share his light with others." Avery Johnson (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Revised Arched Latticed WIndow Pane
 
Adam Howard wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Traditional procedure would be to submit to Terry, and let the Numbers Group provide the number (if possible). -- joshua (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dat.parts.primitives, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Wax on, wax off. <sorry> (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) IIRC (this would be from e-mail he sent me that I almost certainly no longer have, and is stuff I know because I was making an attempt to port it to a Windows version): - It was LEGO Germany - The dispute was over TLG's rights to "studded (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Yes. I think it's time to call the question among the stalwarts and take whatever action is decided on. We're belaboring the point now. (don't ask me for my opinion, BTW, I'm not a cad stalwart, so don't count for what cad.dev decides...) (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Sorry, but I can't snip this masterpiece. Nice anology?..No!..This is wonderful...:-) I can see your point, of course (it is not possible after reading this). Actually, I could already see it before my post, too. You are of course right, but (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Yeah, that's right. Mine is February 27th. -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Commonwealth Edison: What do you do with OUR power? Get paid to surf the web! Visit: (URL) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) Yep. Jacob Sparre Anderson has created a fractal landscape generator. It works in two steps, first you create a PGM bitmap (in an image editor, or using Jacob's fractal generator), then you convert the PGM to LDraw. Sorry, I don't have the URL (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Correct, we're almost the exact same age. I think the difference is less than a week. (Tim, wasn't your birthday late February (mine's March 4) --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) (URL) (...) (Waterfalls (...) That is a very interesting scene. Really hard to describe :) Ryan "God is always polishing my personality, giving me new things to work on. Since I've become a Christian, my whole perception of life has changed." (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Yeah, I'm annoyed by it too. I quick glanced over my program's (Eudora Pro 4.2) options and couldn't see anything connected to the problem with my replies to the group. That's why I'm including your personal email address in this message, and (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Adam, I hate to beat a dead horse, but I neglected to point out perhaps the most significant flaw with the "kids at school" way of looking at this. I agree, enthusiasm is a great thing!! And it goes a *loooong* way toward fostering effective (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) Did Carsten ever post a copy of the letter or anything like that? Anyone know what year/month this was? How about what country he lived in at the time? Very odd... Obviously (er, apparently) TLG has lightened up considerably since then. --Todd (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) OK, I'll go back and answer the question (with my own *opinion*, naturally!) even though it may have been a rhetorical question. No, throwing people out the door is *not* the most pedagogic way of teaching them. Of course not. (Pedagogic (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Voting page for 9906
 
(...) Terry is responsible for the updates but he is away right now. As there wasn't any serious issues to be solved, it shouldn't take a lot of time to package everything but I can't say how long it's going to take because it depends on how much (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Voting page for 9906
 
Hey all. I'm new to this whole LDraw thing, and so don't know the timing of these things. How soon might the 9906 update be released to the rest of the world as an official update? Adrian (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) Same here, I probably should have said that a little more clearly :) (...) That's what I meant when I said that.. if no one would have ever told me that Tim wasn't an "adult" a never would have guessed otherwise, Same with Bram, though I don't (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
Tim, You need to fix that bug in your poster SW that is not referencing quite correctly! :-) I keep having trouble finding your replies. Well, found it so here I am. To net it out, I agree with you, mostly, on this. (and I tend to think of you and (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) For logical reasons. To be fired, you have to be employed, or at least there has to be some sort of fixed arrangement that you can be dismissed from (you can be fired from a volunteer job, but you can't be "fired" from hanging around the (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) TLG sent the author a letter saying that they had the copyrights over the bricks/studs and if he didn't remove his pages he would be sued. The author got so disappointed that he left the net. Leonardo (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) are one of the hardest things to make, IMO). I did a fractal terrain thing on my jade outpost model. (URL) ended up with a set of 32x32 "terrain" baseplates at varying resolution. One trick is to only include the visible bricks, and group (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
Ok... I think this is getting off the beaten track some here... I don't think anyone minds Jonathan asking questions... what they do mind is the tone of his messages. Which he's been called one more than once.. I also don't think anyone would mind (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) Funny, after almost a year away from the lego ray-tracing world, I had just gotten back into it and had downloaded the latest versions of tools I had tried in the past, including leocad. I just spent the last couple of hours playing with (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts for LDraw or parts for POV-Ray?
 
(...) I didn't place all 10,000 parts separately, though. Thanks to Jacob's fractal landscape generator, I was able to convert a contour map and a color map of the Fallingwater landscape into a DAT file. To create the contour map, I first scanned (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: i admit i was wrong
 
(...) LDrawing sets is useful, I'm not disagreeing. But the thing is Jonathan has stockpiled bunches and bunches of these LDrawn sets and will just submit a flood of them without editing out his own 'parts' first. I'm more concerned with adhesion to (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)


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