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Re: i admit i was wrong
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Date: 
Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:45:24 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Tim,

You need to fix that bug in your poster SW that is not referencing quite
correctly! :-) I keep having trouble finding your replies. Well, found
it so here I am.

To net it out, I agree with you, mostly, on this. (and I tend to think
of you and Bram as adults, BTW(1) )

Same here, I probably should have said that a little more clearly :)

The question is, is there anything salvagable? If there is (and it's not
my call, it's the cad.dev regulars, I'm just a gadfly), is the time and
effort likely to pay off? If the judgement is, "maybe" (and again, not
my call, it's the call of whoever volunteers to take on the
"babysitting") then I think drawing sets is more likely to be value add
to the community sooner than several other activities I can think of.
That's all I'm saying there. Based on your offline note to me I sort of
think you already agree.

1 - Mookie was making an age based distinction(2), I tend to go on
maturity level. Except when you were slamming me in the great "blue
windows" /"hoarding connections to TLG" flamefest, ( :-) ) I tend to
think of you as adult. Adultness is not a function of age, it's a
function of behaviour.

That's what I meant when I said that.. if no one would have ever told me
that Tim wasn't an "adult" a never would have guessed otherwise, Same
with Bram, though I don't have as much contact with Bram has I have had
with Tim.

2 - valid and I know she agrees with me, she was just making a point
that we're all adults, or mostly adults, here on LUGNET. (3) You guys
count.

Most definately!

3 - for now. Going forward the mix will change according to Todd. We
need to work some of these mentoring/behaviour/monitoring things out now
before things get more hectic.

Yes, things will have to change, not only for them, for us too.. we do
need to be patient with the younger users.  There are a lot of us that
aren't parents, and to some it might be a little rough at first. Though
I think in the long run we can all get along here and make this place
feel like home :)


Tim Courtney wrote:

At 10:17 PM 8/13/99 , Larry Pieniazek wrote:
Tim Courtney wrote:

I'd say not.  I'm looking more for things along the lines of gathering
links, making sure stuff works, making pages which are not
content-critical.  LDrawing sets in large volume is nice, but its not
something considered 'giving someone an appreciation for the place' IMO.

Why not? I think that Ldrawing sets is indeed useful. But then, my
perspective is that of a consumer of instructions, not a creator of
them, and I certainly know that I do not have the time nor the interest
to get deep into part creation. I am grateful that there are those who
do. It is a tough job and it takes a lot of skill.

LDrawing sets is useful, I'm not disagreeing.  But the thing is Jonathan
has stockpiled bunches and bunches of these LDrawn sets and will just
submit a flood of them without editing out his own 'parts' first.  I'm more
concerned with adhesion to the OMR standards.

But I trust they will not tell me how to architect distributed systems,
just as I would not presume to tell them how to do parts. I may vote on
how the parts look to me, just as I welcome their input on how the
systems I architect perform.

Correct.

But anyway, if there is something that benefits the community as a whole
(not specifically ldraw.org) that Jonathan is good at, and from which a
more constructive interaction might result than if it were something
Jonathan was NOT good at, it seems worth a try to this outsider.

I was just using ldraw.org as a suggestion.  But yes, there are other
things that would benefit the community outside of doing stuff for ldraw.org.

A few ground rules if I may be so bold:
- no asking for parts. Do the sets you have the parts for only.
- no using non standard parts. Not even as mockups.
- if it doesn't display correctly on a system that has all, and only,
the official released parts, it's wrong.

Good thoughts.

-Tim <><

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