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Re: Stick in the mud...
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Date: 
Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:19:27 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Frank Filz writes:
> > I agree that this is ideal in cases where the user may have mis-typed the
> > URL by hand (or had been given the wrong URL from, say, a print ad in a
> > magazine, and they typed it in by hand).  I'm not sure it's ideal for cases
> > where someone explicitly wrote the URL wrong when they made a link from
> > another page.
> 
> Except that it's a pain to get a web page author to fix broken links on
> their page which is effectively what you're saying.

Oh, I didn't mean to suggest that /foo/bar should give a 404 error (page not
found) if the HTTP referrer was from another webpage, I just meant that I
don't believe it's an ideal solution to give a 301 (automatic redirect) in
that case.


> Given the way web
> pages currently work, I think it's important to keep from breaking web
> pages.
> 
> To this extent, I have put redirector code into .../index.html in my web
> pages since I mostly don't have actual content in the index.html page.

Ahh, cool!  So if someone links to

   http://www.foo.bar/glorp/gonk/zoop/index.html

your page redirects them to the canonical URL?

   http://www.foo.bar/glorp/gonk/zoop/

That's pretty cool.


> In order to try an avoid broken links, I tend to link to a higher level
> page if reasonable, and give directions as to how to get there. This is
> because it's a pain to go fix all those links when stuff gets moved
> around.
> 
> I also think that it's important when moving a page to leave a
> re-director page at the old location as much as possible.

That reminds me -- I should add an additional option to view an older version
of a page of the page is no longer present and gives no forwarding address.


> I hate playing
> the "hunt for the person's web page" game when /x/y/z/page.html suddenly
> doesn't work (for one thing, not all servers provide something for /x/y
> (and some annoyingly re-direct you to an error page so you need to go
> find the original link and cut and paste it into your browsers URL field
> so that you can play with modifying it).

Wow, that's extra nasty!  :-)

--Todd



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  Re: Stick in the mud...
 
(...) I hoped you didn't plan to give a 404 or a blank page, what I was saying is that it would be annoying to be using someone else's page of links (because it's so complete) and always get a "lecture" page until you can convince them to fix it. Of (...) (26 years ago, 14-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
  Re: Stick in the mud...
 
(...) 308 Fix Your %$*@ Web Page ? (26 years ago, 14-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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(...) Except that it's a pain to get a web page author to fix broken links on their page which is effectively what you're saying. Given the way web pages currently work, I think it's important to keep from breaking web pages. To this extent, I have (...) (26 years ago, 13-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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