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Re: Suspension of Chris Magno and Terry P
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Date: 
Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:45:05 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Benjamin Medinets wrote:
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Is the line the same for Admins, or are they held to a higher standard?

Kevin, you raise a valid point here. This is not to take a personal snipe at admins, but it seems this whole “situation” that the Admins get to do what they want because “they are selfless volunteers for the greater good”.

Hi Ben,

I have been in email contact with the Admin team, and *know* that this and many other points raised in this thread have been noted, as indicated by a few of Todd’s post. Noted is a serious understatement, but I cannot come up with better wording. Larry has personally acknowledged and committed to me that this is a new standard.

The Admin team has publicly stated they made mistakes, and wisely not listed what they were or were not, because that would just spawn more debate. They have worked with Chris and Terry to rapidly get them reenstated, and are working hard at rewriting polciy and thier application as we speak.

I’m done being adversarial on this point, as I would encourage everyone else to do. Mid afternoon on Friday the dialog went dead. I was not sure if this was a good sign or bad. It in fact, was a very good sign.

  
I personally believe in many instances, they deserve the members’ praise, gratitude, and respect, however, I think that the admins should be just as responsible for their own behavior as any other member.

The Admin team beleives this too, I’m sure.

This is one of the toughest situation they have faced in their short tenure. It got complicated, because it got so personal. It is very tough to maintain grace under fire, when the methods attack the person, and not their behavior.

In many ways, this particular case was good for lugnet, in that the rules, procuedures and their applications are being reviewed and updated. I trust that the Admin team is working very hard at looking at all sides, and trying to look at the whole picture, as indicated by Todd’s posts.

  
Ben Medinets



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  Re: Suspension of Chris Magno and Terry P
 
(...) Clearly the Admins have apologised for their (unspecified) errors. However, how can members (I'm not one) accept an apology when those involved are not willing to say what they are apologising for? In the past transgressors have been asked to (...) (16 years ago, 7-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)  
  Re: Suspension of Chris Magno and Terry P
 
In lugnet.admin.general, Kevin L. Clague wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) <snip> I'm with Kevin on this--the points have been made and now lie in the purview of the admins. Rehashing the ground will just cause added consteration for parties (...) (16 years ago, 7-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)

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  Re: Suspension of Chris Magno and Terry P
 
I (...) Kevin, you raise a valid point here. This is not to take a personal snipe at admins, but it seems this whole "situation" that the Admins get to do what they want because "they are selfless volunteers for the greater good". I personally (...) (16 years ago, 7-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)

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