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Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry)
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Sat, 5 Mar 2005 03:47:02 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
   In lugnet.admin.general, C. L. GunningCook wrote:
   Lenny, from this post, it is clear to me that it is the contest that upset you and factored into your decision of placing the indefinite suspension. You ask me how (what Chris did) is this analogous to what is normally done on Lugnet? Well to me its simple, its not analogous at all because the contest was not held here.

The contest is unique - it was a public attempt to remove someone from Lugnet. I feel that its flagrant-ness, plus Chris’s obmission that it was not intended as a joke, move it from the ‘only on this site’ situation.

I feel that it contradicts this portion of the ToU:

1. (do not) Restrict or inhibit any other user from using the discussion groups.

Lenny, you don’t seriously believe Chris violated that do you? Even if anyone WAS prepared to enter, it would be Larry, not Chris, not the entrant who would be making the decision to leave. Chris has not restricted Larry’s use of the discussion groups in any way as far as I can see.

And I believe that clause should be clarified anyway, because that is exactly what Admins do when they suspend posting privs. Either make it clear what kind of restriction you’re talking about, or make it clear that Admins are excepted, or both.

  
   only because I think it is detrimental to punish any one that did not break any stated rules.

Here we get to un-easy ground. Who has broken rules and who has not is up for grabs - it is the Admin’s job to make that determination, and we have. I don’t believe that we need to justify our decisions to anyone except other Admins.

And yet isn’t that exactly what you have been trying to do these past few days?

ROSCO



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  Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry)
 
(...) I've been trying to help everyone understand. But you're right - I shouldn't have been doing that. I made the decision, with other Admins, and I am comfortable with it. As I have stated several times, I believe Chris broke the ToU, and whether (...) (20 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)

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  Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry)
 
(...) The contest is unique - it was a public attempt to remove someone from Lugnet. I feel that its flagrant-ness, plus Chris's obmission that it was not intended as a joke, move it from the 'only on this site' situation. I feel that it contradicts (...) (20 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)

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