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Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry)
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lugnet.admin.general
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Sat, 5 Mar 2005 03:04:25 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, C. L. GunningCook wrote:
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Lenny, from this post, it is clear to me that it is the contest that upset
you and factored into your decision of placing the indefinite suspension. You
ask me how (what Chris did) is this analogous to what is normally done on
Lugnet? Well to me its simple, its not analogous at all because the contest
was not held here.
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The contest is unique - it was a public attempt to remove someone from Lugnet.
I feel that its flagrant-ness, plus Chris’s obmission that it was not intended
as a joke, move it from the ‘only on this site’ situation.
I feel that it contradicts this portion of the ToU:
1. (do not) Restrict or inhibit any other user from using the discussion
groups.
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Firstly lets make it known, Chris is not the only one that
has said undesirable things elsewhere about Lugnet. Im not saying the
contest is right, and frankly, yes, it was mean spirited.
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If said civily, I would have no problem and would accept it entirely.
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only because I think it is detrimental to
punish any one that did not break any stated rules.
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Here we get to un-easy ground. Who has broken rules and who has not is up for
grabs - it is the Admin’s job to make that determination, and we have. I don’t
believe that we need to justify our decisions to anyone except other Admins.
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I know you didn’t like it, but I also appreciate the fact that you know that
I was trying to make a serious point within the ToU without being
inflammatory. Loud and clear, it is not the admins, it is not the members, it
is the huge amounts of grey areas with in the ToU of which I am protesting.
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Thank you for the clarification.
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My plea for a veto is still on the table, I hope someone will take me up on
it.
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I’m not going to get into specifics, but that isn’t exactly how the process
works. Right now I am trying to get this situation resolved.
I never meant “indefinate” to mean “permanent” - rather, “suspended currently,
for how long to be decided upon later.” As I have mentioned various places, it
is always my hope, and the hope of all Admins, that Chris and Terry can
re-join Lugnet, and as quickly as possible.
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A reply to answer questions of an admin, and in hopes of
working together towards a common goal.
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Thank you Janey.
-Lenny
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Message has 3 Replies:
 | | Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry)
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| (...) Leonard, The contest was created in a domain other than lugnet. You bring the topic to lugnet. In doing so, you forced it to be a "not only on this site" situation. Suddenly now the ToU applies to the contest. I still don't get that. I'll ask (...) (20 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX) !!
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| | Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry)
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| (...) Okay, I was holding off replying, but the night is getting short, so I am going to try to explain this to the best of my ability... Sorry it's a "novel". First of all, I can see many points of views/sides to this story. 4 that I will touch on, (...) (20 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX) !
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