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Re: Rush: "Lego is a Tool for 4 year olds"
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Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:53:29 GMT
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Tom,
Tom Stangl wrote:
> Being a Rush anti-fan (I think he's a bleeding moron), I don't agree (not just because > he's
> Rush, but because he's WRONG). Using Lego in this way is an excellent test of spatial
> skills, pinpointing people with the right skills for many engineering careers.
It might be, but doesn't have anything to do with testing people to get
around affirmative action rulings.
> > Now, based on these statements of both CNN and the Denver Post, instead
> > of testing everyone equally, based on test scores and their high school
> > preformance,
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> Give...me...a...break. Standardized tests are ANYTHING but fair across the board. The
> excuse of "they're all we've got" doesn't cut it, and these people are trying to actually > DO
> something about it.
So, giving an unfair advantage to people is being fair?
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> > "initiative, leadership and an ability to work
> in groups ".
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> BULL. You obviously never took a class where teams were graded, not individuals.
I took many classes over 5 years of going to college, Tom, and had many
team based projects. My grade depended on the ability of other people,
and for the most part, my grades were good. However, the team based
approach meant that if the people slacked off, I got a bad grade. I
somehow managed to get a 3.79 however.
This whole issue is a sidestep. Giving this test, as a way to try to get
around affirmative action rulings in recent years is wrong. I wish all
of my test were as easy as having other people imitate a LEGO model in
another room. If I ever have kids, I hope to God they never have to get
downgraded to this level to get into a college.
Scott S.
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| (...) You're assuming that the entire reason for these tests is to get around these court decisions. What if there was a larger, more important reason -- like attempting to make testing the applicants more realistic and fair (see below)? It is a sad (...) (24 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Rush: "Lego is a Tool for 4 year olds"
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| (...) To me there are two issues. The first is do we take people into college who are not necessarily the most likely to succeed. The second issue is how do you assure someone is most likely to succeed. Since I believe it is impossible to come up (...) (24 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Being a Rush anti-fan (I think he's a bleeding moron), I don't agree (not just because he's Rush, but because he's WRONG). Using Lego in this way is an excellent test of spatial skills, pinpointing people with the right skills for many (...) (24 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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