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Re: Arkham Asylum - A cool set, but a bit disturbing.
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Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:41:35 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mark Larson wrote:
   In lugnet.licensed.batman, Timothy Gould wrote:
  
I agree, but the buttterfly effect is arbitrary. There is nothing to say that your response mentioning the cartoons may not draw a random search to Richie’s post that sets any potential (and exceedingly unlikely) commotion off.

Which is exactly my original point. Any focus group could stumble upon Richie’s original post and get all up in arms over it and start some sort of movement against LEGO. Putting the idea out there, anyone can read it and over-react any number of ways.

Yes. But my point here is that by responding with a reference to the cartoon you’re making it a little bit more likely to be seen by the very people that you think may get upset. I sincerely doubt that either post will cause a calamity but it pays to remember that the ‘butterfly’ in the ‘butterfly effect’ may not be the one you expect.

  
  
I just don’t consider Richie’s point to be particularly alarmist (although I don’t really agree with it either). He didn’t demand that Lego remove it or anything, merely brought a certain disturbing similarity to their attention.

He does suggest that it should be removed. This is posted on a public message board which anyone could read and having no knowledge or familiarity with the LEGO company could blow out of proportion. Much like some may think I’m doing. But perhaps a better place to start would be to contact LEGO directly if he’s that concerned.

IIRC this forum exists as a way of bringing stuff to the attention of LEGO and is occassionally perused by employees of LEGO. It’s also a good way to gauge other people’s views (like your own) so that someone reading it from LEGO can see both the original ‘issue’ and responses.

When people rang up to complain about Janet Jackson’s breast there was no-one involved to say... ‘Hey, it’s just a breast’. Here, at least, someone from LEGO can read your responses too.

   Issues attract focus groups, focus groups pressure advertisers and that can affect company’s profits and people’s jobs.

I agree but I just don’t think that’s going to happen from a fairly obscure internet forum.

  
   This is not without precendence given that LEGO have acted on disturbing similarities before.

In my opinion, there is no reason for LEGO to act on this particular issue. That is my main problem with the original post. I respect Richie 100% but the original issue does annoy me. I could probably use Tim as an example of how to take that with a grain of salt. Thanks.

-Mark

In my opinion there wasn’t any reason to act on the first one either... but it happened.

I think the main point I’m trying to make is that sometimes the response to an issue can be as ‘alarmist’ (for want of a better word) as the original issue. The Danish embassy may have remained unburnt had one person in an editorial meeting in a small Danish newspaper had said “yes I think the response is alarmist but oh well” rather than “yes I think the response is alarmist and it should never have been made”.

Tim

PS. And likewise I hope I’m managing as respectable a discussion as I believe you to be (since Dave reminded me of that last bit of your original post).



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  Re: Arkham Asylum - A cool set, but a bit disturbing.
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote: I sincerely doubt that either post will cause a (...) Sounds like a great them for a time travel movie! (...) Well, I still respect you. And I think we actually feel the same way about the original (...) (17 years ago, 7-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Arkham Asylum - A cool set, but a bit disturbing.
 
(...) Which is exactly my original point. Any focus group could stumble upon Richie's original post and get all up in arms over it and start some sort of movement against LEGO. Putting the idea out there, anyone can read it and over-react any number (...) (17 years ago, 7-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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