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Re: Arkham Asylum - A cool set, but a bit disturbing.
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Mon, 4 Jun 2007 23:55:15 GMT
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In lugnet.dear-lego, Felix Greco wrote:
   In lugnet.licensed.batman, Richie Dulin wrote:

   I may be taking this the wrong way, but I think this image seriously detracts from this set, and it’s not something I would feel comfortable allowing children to see (yes, I know they’ll see worse on TV).

I understand where you’re coming from.

But I wonder, where do we draw the line between having fun and addressing every possible concern that could arise? The pirates theme, your theme of choice I believe, has a disgusting and horrible true past to it.

It certainly does, though it’s not something I choose to portray in my pirate MOCs and not something that LEGO has chosen to portray in its sets (beyond prison cells, and planks for walking. Oh, and I once built a guillotine).

   There are probably religious groups that abhor the representations of magicians and walking dead in the new castle sets. Almost every lego theme is centered around violence. This is just the way I like it-- liked it as a kid and I like it now. And despite popular opinion I am a well adjusted, morally upright, and successful individual. I don’t believe my steady diet of violent movies, video games, and toys corrupted my views of morality.

Conflict is central to drama. Sometimes that conflict is violent. But I think there is a difference between a swordfight between the forces of good and evil (or ships exchanging broadsides, or X-wings and Tie Fighters dogfighting) and strapping someone down on a table to torture them. Exactly where the difference lies is hard to identify; but it’s just not the same in my book.

Maybe the difference is this: A pirate ship without cannon is not a plausible pirate ship (more or less), but an Arkham Asylum without an attic torture chamber, would still be an entirely adequate Arkham Asylum.

   I can certainly appreciate your concern, and I hope my disagreement is seen as intelligent argument, nothing personal. The fact is, since your post currently sits as one of the headlines here at lugnet, we’ll likely never see a picture like this on a set again.

Felix

I’m not sure that merely getting a post to the LUGNET headlines can/does/should influence LEGO policy, but I do hope that the policy does change.

Cheers

Richie Dulin



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  Re: Arkham Asylum - A cool set, but a bit disturbing.
 
(...) I guess I was using your opinion and those that spotlighted it as a barometer for what the public is thinking. Its usually safe to assume that if someone has a mild discomfort towards something, someone somewhere is up in arms about it. (17 years ago, 5-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Arkham Asylum - A cool set, but a bit disturbing.
 
(...) I understand where you're coming from. But I wonder, where do we draw the line between having fun and addressing every possible concern that could arise? The pirates theme, your theme of choice I believe, has a disgusting and horrible true (...) (17 years ago, 4-Jun-07, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) ! 

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