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Re: Frog —Christopher L. Weeks

(...) This is obviously the case, not just a maybe. What I mean is that for each person there is (presumably) a line of the sort described. It does change over a lifetime, it has for me. It is different from culture to culture. Etc. You suggest that (...) (26 years ago, 8-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Tim McSweeney

(...) There are too many things in the world to derive all of them from first principals. I accept all sorts of things that I was taught without reasoning through them fully, I suspect you do as well. If there are some issues that we each feel the (...) (26 years ago, 8-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Mike Stanley

(...) I'll let you regret that. I'll just choose to not mind. :) You could always taste your own, though. You could probably cut off enough to fry up a thin steakums-type thing without doing too much permanent damage - especially if you take it from (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Tim McSweeney

Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) <grin> I think society would frown on that, and in fact I don't particularly want to do it because the society I live in frowns on self mutilation. I guess my point was that I don't want to kill and eat (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jesse Long

Tim McSweeney wrote in message ... (...) so (...) assure (...) Well, I think a lot of people disagree with that on religious grounds, but since I don't want to get into that I'll disagree with it on logical/philosophical grounds: I think all (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Tim McSweeney

(...) maybe, (...) Not true, Our own society until recently practiced capital punishment, If this isn't sanctioned killing in-Group then I don't know what is. No-one does anything aimlessly, I don't even brush my teeth without some motive. I agree (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Tim McSweeney

(...) Thinking about this some more I think I might be wrong, There is one absolute moral judgement: "Thou shalt not damage Lego bricks" <grin> Cheers Tim (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Christopher L. Weeks

(...) My society practices capital punishment right now. But, I don't think that it is sanctioned killing in-Group. The government must sufficiently demonize a person or group before they can be legally terminated. Whether it's someone accused of (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —John Neal

I agree with Jesse here. Why are you so reluctant to acknowledge the possibility of absolutes? (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Tim McSweeney

John Neal wrote in message <36BFA673.677B4B70@u...st.net>... (...) For the same reason I'm reluctant to acknowledge the existance of Bright pink elepahnts, They don't exist! I don't deny knowledge of some absolutes, I'm pretty sure that 1+1=2 (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —John Neal

(...) [1] Although I refer to a being even higher than the one lifted up by the Larritarians;) (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —John Neal

sorry, hit that send button a little too quickly... no help outa spell checker...How the $#%@ do ya spell "senshunt"??!! I guess ya have to be it to spell it:( (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

(canceled) —Linc Smith

Re: Frog —Jeff Stembel

Sentient I pronounce it "sen-tee-ent", but I've heard it pronounced your way too. Jeff (...) being (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

(...) YM sentient. HTH. Jasper (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Tim McSweeney

John Neal wrote in message <36BFD70C.8D95A0E6@u...st.net>... (...) our (...) being (...) due (...) orginally, (...) Aha once again a newsgroup discussion boils down to religion. [1] It is interesting that the only way you can justify your belief in (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —John Neal

(...) Actually, you have a good point. Perhaps a Supreme Being _IS_ the only absolute. If one were not to acknowledge the existence of such, then there would be no absolutes. I can live with that (atheism). I, however, do not concur, but I do have (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Tim McSweeney

(...) absolute (...) be (...) no (...) Desire to be Moral What Desire? Actually this is probably instilled once again from parents, We are told to "Be Good" "You'll get a reward if you do what I say" that sort of thing. It's also probably an (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Lee Jorgensen

(...) Reminds me of a little joke I heard a while back ... Person A: There are _NO_ absolutes. Period. Person B: Are you sure? Person A: Absolutely. (for the humor impaired ... the first statement is an absolute in and of itself) -- Lee Jorgensen, (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —James Brown

(...) itself) (...) There is an exception to every rule. Including this one. Holy paradoxical statements, Batman! :) James (URL) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —John Neal

"Never say never" (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Selçuk Göre

(...) No..No need to prove. Supreme being is existing. I saw her on TV, and she is a very cute one..:-) (I don't know why, she calls herself as fifth element) Selçuk (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jesse Long

Selçuk wrote in message ... (...) absolute (...) is (...) Never thought I'd go for a girl with neon orange hair. Why are all my favorite movies panned by the critics? Jesse ___...___ Jesse The Jolly Jingoist Looking for answers? Read the (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Selçuk Göre

Jesse Long wrote in message ... (...) element) (...) Bet you also like " The Postman" and "Waterworld" which are both declared "unnecessary to see" by the critics. And yes, I'd like them, too. .:-) Selçuk P.S.. Since she is the supreme being, and (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Steve Bliss

(...) In this particular case, it's because it was boron. Steve (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Terry Keller

(...) Boron? :-) My .02... I thought it was rather bad myself. It looked good, and parts of it were cool, but afterward I left feeling a little cheated. And even more telling, my nephew (10 at the time) said it sucked. And that surprised me. He (...) (26 years ago, 12-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jesse Long

Terry K wrote in message <36c3bfe8.6485570@lu...et.com>... (...) of it (...) He (...) Well, I'll agree that it could have been a whole lot more. I think if the directors had taken a different approach it would have been a lot better. I think they (...) (26 years ago, 12-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Steve Bliss

(...) Hydrogen, helium, lithium, beryllium (had to look that one up), boron. --Steve (URL) (26 years ago, 12-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Terry Keller

(...) I was just smiling because you are periodically amusing. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 13-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Steve Bliss

(...) I figured you did. I thought others might not. BTW, I stole the pun from somewhere, but I don't remember where. It could even have been RTL. I'd add another pun, but I'm no good at them. Steve (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Mike Stanley

(...) Because most of them are pansies and they don't appreciate movies filled with masculine men and naked women? Not that all your favorite movies have those elements, but the fifth element did. :) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jesse Long

Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) Damn straight. (...) So did Starship Troopers, only without the masculine men. I liked Last Action Hero too. Can't pass up an Arnold movie. Except perhaps Commando. I also liked For Love Or Money with Michael (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Mike Stanley

(...) I just got Starship Troopers for $9.99 on DVD. I remember it as a fairly mediocre movie. Except for that shower scene maybe... (26 years ago, 12-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jesse Long

Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) Exactly. You're better off with the book. I think the movie was little more than a showcase for cool computer-gore graphics. I try to separate books from movies, but this one was a real sacrilege. Jesse (...) (26 years ago, 12-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —John Neal

Hey Mike, I wouldn't mind getting ST for 9.99- where did you score that? -John (...) (26 years ago, 12-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Mike Stanley

(...) Hrmmm, lemme think. I got it from BigStar - (URL) usually check in on these two sites to find good deals on DVDs: (URL) Unofficial listing of weekly US Lego Shop at Home phone specials (URL) (S@H USA) / 800-267-5346 (S@H Canada) (...) (26 years ago, 12-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Larry Pieniazek

<slrn7c7dti.4ol.cjc@...S.UTK.EDU> <F712sH.2HC@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Gratuitous nudity for no other reason than to keep the audience awake hoping it might happen again (well, the (...) (26 years ago, 12-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —James Brown

(...) A friend of mine described it, in a tone he only uses for withering scorn, as "Ken and Barbie Save the Universe, containing all the intellectual fiber of a goat's diet." After I saw it, it struck me that he might have been too kind. :) James (...) (26 years ago, 13-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Mike Stanley

(...) That would have been so much funnier if you had said "male members" instead of "male part"..... Sorry, had to say it. :) (26 years ago, 13-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Christopher L. Weeks

(...) Why are you and Jesse sure that there are? I don't know. I'm not sure that there are absolutes, though the argument for in-group "murder" being inherently bad being embedded in the human psyche is strong, so is the argument for all such things (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jesse Long

John Neal wrote in message <36BFA673.677B4B70@u...st.net>... (...) Because it is difficult to declare absolutes in a relative world; because it makes people uncomfortable to think that there is a right and a wrong, and thus that there is a (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Tim McSweeney

(...) it (...) of (...) This is an interesting point of view. If I am to be totally rigorous then as I sit here typing how do I know the back of me head still exists? I can't see it, I'm not touching it, It doesn't hurt or tickle or anything, there (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

(...) Think on this some more and you'll be the Ruler of the Universe. [0] Jasper [0] No points for this reference. (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Tim McSweeney

(...) could (...) drugs (...) What are you implying? that I am a brain in a vat? Are you the scientist? Did you eat my body? Tim (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

(...) Yes, that's it. I disconnected you from your body, and gave your brain net access. All for the purpose of eating you, while still giving the illusion of you being alive. Jasper Actually - There was a HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jesse Long

Jasper Janssen wrote in message <36c2d88b.5143265@lu...et.com>... (...) 64. Jesse ___...___ Jesse The Jolly Jingoist Looking for answers? Read the rec.toys.lego FAQ! (URL) in Deja News! (URL) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

(...) 42. Jasper (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Selçuk Göre

Jasper Janssen wrote in message <36cb6267.40441156@l...et.com>... (...) 6x9 ?.... Selçuk (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

(...) You've found it! The Question to the answer to Life, The Universe & Everything! Oh... Wait. It's only the preliminary answer. Damn the telephone sanitizers! Jasper (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Selçuk Göre

Jasper Janssen wrote in message <36ccaaf5.56473925@l...et.com>... (...) Not that easy, takes 10M years to come by...:-) Selçuk (1) Preliminary answer?..now I'm at the middle of fourth book, and probably will start fifth one this weekend...:-) nice (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Stephen Jacquot

(...) That would be "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency". If the translator translated "holistic" to Turkish-for-"holy", then you might be better off to read the English language originals. (...) There is also "The Long Dark Tea-time of the (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:58:54 GMT, "Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> wrote: Follow-up to .fun, for obvious reasons. (...) Well... I'm not sure if this is a spoiler or not. I think not, because I think it's book 3... yes, it is. It's (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Selçuk Göre

(...) Oh, yeah..I get it. When I saw the word "preliminary", the first thing that came to my mind was "Is there a secondary?", not that it was given 8 million years ago (so it is preliminary)..or..is being given 8 m years ago?..:-). (...) Oh yes, (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

(...) Yeah... I do it the parts way too. Someday soon, I'm gonna get me a celeron 300a on a Abit BH6 board and run slightly faster than a P-II 450 :) - I'm saving up for it. (...) Yeah.... It's 140 meg, tho. (...) I'll burn you a CD and send it to (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Selçuk Göre

(...) It's my far future dream, too. Overclocking what I have on top of my Asus P5AB(1) board is the only way to go for now. (...) Really?..I would be greatly appreciated...:-) What about a "payment" with my readily available first two CD's of Lego (...) (26 years ago, 12-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

(...) Asus Rocks. Period. No doubt about it. <other stuff taken to email> (...) Yeah... I started with a dx2/66 clone something or other, stayed with that for 3 years, and decided it was time for something new. So I got myself an Asus TX-97, (335 (...) (26 years ago, 12-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Selçuk Göre

(...) So, here is my story then. I started with a 386SX16 in 1992, with 1M of ram, 40M of hdd (Seagate ST157A, with an amzing(!) 500+ K/sec. of data transfer rate), a 512K Oak 067 vga card, a mono vga monitor, other regular stuff plus a 5.25 fdd (...) (26 years ago, 13-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:38:22 GMT, "Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> wrote: <Sa'snip> (...) Not _that_ boring to a fellow geek - and I imgaine that lugnet's geek content is as much higher compared to AFOLs in general, as AFOL are to (...) (26 years ago, 13-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Mike Stanley

(...) Might as well go with the Abit BX6 rev 2 now. It has 4 DIMM sockets and supports higher clock multipliers. And you won't really outperform a real P2-450, but you will come close to matching it. I'd say in some things I outperform my P2-400. (26 years ago, 14-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

(...) But how stable is it? :-) (...) Hmm.. I believe the difference was... 1-2% at most. Of course, games traditionally do better on celerons than Office apps, because of the lack of cache. I'm not sure how that balance has shifted with the albeit (...) (26 years ago, 14-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Mike Stanley

(...) Seems as stable as my BH6. Don't know why it would be any less stable. In another month I'll have 3 oc'ed 300a's. Two will be running in BX6-2's, one in a BH6. (...) It's hard for me to tell the difference in games because in my Celeron 450 at (...) (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Steve Bliss

(...) If someone has a 10 meg spreadsheet, it's time to move it to Access, at least. Maybe even move it to a real RDBMS.[1] --Steve [1] Don't get me wrong, I like Access a lot. But sometimes you just need to push all that processing off on some (...) (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

(...) That depends entirely on what kind of spreadsheet it is - some types just aren't suited to being pushed in a DB. (...) Well, why are you running Access at all, if you have a Linux box? All kidding aside, for a nice C/S DB solution, you _could_ (...) (26 years ago, 16-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Steve Bliss

(...) Rilly? I guess that's possible, I just haven't seen them. I _have_ seen too many spreadsheets trying to be applications, because the person who put the spreadsheet together was an Excel pro, and didn't know there were better ways to present (...) (26 years ago, 16-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Richard Dee

On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:53:16 GMT, Steve Bliss uttered the following profundities... (...) In my department, the 2 of us, are neither Access nor Excel pros, however, the data we have needs to be presented as well as analyzed. We store the (...) (26 years ago, 16-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

(...) ACK! I just read here that production of 300a, aka 450a, has been ceased :(( Let's see now... 83 * 5 = 415, 92 * 5 = 475, but that's pushing it. Jasper (26 years ago, 14-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Mike Stanley

(...) Yup. If you don't have a 300a by now you're gonna have to be lucky to get one, especially a retail one like the 3 I have. I bought 2 of mine a month or so ago before I needed them because I knew they'd become scarce. Wish I'd bought 4 like my (...) (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Thomas Main

Jasper Janssen writes: <snip> (...) Last Chance to see is AFAIK the only non-fiction book Douglas Adams ever wrote. It is an account of his travels to remote regions of the world in exploration of nearly-extinct animal spieces. It has a fair amount (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: Frog —Selçuk Göre

<F6zL7x.CuM@lugnet.com> <36C2F127.41C6@kali....ginia.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (...) Yes, this one. And yes, he uses the word "holy" for it. Just searched for it and saw the stupidity. I (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Tim McSweeney

Jasper Janssen wrote in message <36c2d88b.5143265@lu...et.com>... (...) So you are to blame for these headaches I get. I hope you are looking after my body, I may have taken it for granted but I felt kind of sentimental about it, we had some good (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Jasper Janssen

(...) That's what happens when the glucose runs out for a bit, yes. (...) Didn't I tell you I ate it? (...) Err yeah. It's reference Fe3+ ion, so you know what to measure against. Jasper (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Christopher L. Weeks

(...) Right. Mostly because we don't have time to question everything. (...) Thinking about them and trying to explain them is not. (...) I agree. But, you won't ever come up with something better without questioning the status quo. To improve you (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Mike Stanley

(...) I eat cows because they taste good, mainly. (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Christopher L. Weeks

(...) What if people taste good? (I've never tried it, but I suspect I wouldn't think so.) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Mike Stanley

(...) Never tried people either. Fortunately, there are more than enough cows to go around. (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Frog —Christopher L. Weeks

(...) And such a shortage of people! (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)